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the death penalty
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whats your opinion on the death penalty? The death penalty shows proof a dumber human race than we should have been by now. Antiquated barbarism of neandrathal quality. i have to disagree, i believe in survival of the fittest, natural selection... if your dumb enough to do something that warrants the death penalty, then they deserve what they get. An eye for an eye law is not all bad... the muslims actually have a good philosophy there. It shows ignorance to believe that retribution can be achieved by brutality for brutality. I and others are waiting patiently for some humans to outgrow their neandrathalic tendencies. I agree. A friend of mine was just convicted of murdering his wife. He stabbed her some 20 odd times with a fish fillet knife. Let's get all our Liberal friends to protest his incarceration and possible death penalty. Here is the headline; http://www.alpineavalanche.com/news/article_ec269cf8-6ea6-11e1-b4a3-001871e3ce6c.html Send all your protest letters to; Pioneer@fspioneer.com I wouldnt protest his incarceration (he broke the law and took a life) I would petition to stop his planned death though,,, ok, you so can pay for his incarceration for the rest of his life... thats ok, taxes go to wars that kill, I dont mind taxes going to keep people alive yin and yang |
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Topic:
the death penalty
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whats your opinion on the death penalty? The death penalty shows proof a dumber human race than we should have been by now. Antiquated barbarism of neandrathal quality. i have to disagree, i believe in survival of the fittest, natural selection... if your dumb enough to do something that warrants the death penalty, then they deserve what they get. An eye for an eye law is not all bad... the muslims actually have a good philosophy there. It shows ignorance to believe that retribution can be achieved by brutality for brutality. I and others are waiting patiently for some humans to outgrow their neandrathalic tendencies. I agree. A friend of mine was just convicted of murdering his wife. He stabbed her some 20 odd times with a fish fillet knife. Let's get all our Liberal friends to protest his incarceration and possible death penalty. Here is the headline; http://www.alpineavalanche.com/news/article_ec269cf8-6ea6-11e1-b4a3-001871e3ce6c.html Send all your protest letters to; Pioneer@fspioneer.com I wouldnt protest his incarceration (he broke the law and took a life) I would petition to stop his planned death though,,, |
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As a registered voter in PA, I have always been asked to show photo ID at my local polling location even when I know the people who are checking for my registration. So this becoming a law will not change anything for me. I don't see where this should be a problem unless the people who are complaining are planning on moving to PA. it wont be a problem for pa, but in other places where showing id has not been required previously, it will cause unnecessary , unfruitful, and probably counterproductive extra efforts for millions of registered voters who do not have current ownership of a picture id (or the documents required to order one).... I disagree. We only have to register ONCE. From the time we register , over the years, anything could happen that may cause us to no longer have the id we used at registration. Asking people to rush in an election year to make that 'extra' effort may not be worth it to the large percentage who have in the past appreciated the convenience of going to their local shop or polling place and putting in their vote,,,,however, leaving the laws as they are will in the worst case continue the leas than ONE Percent of voting that is fraudulent you left out you cant get a job without ID, a library card, do anything at a bank, get any stickers for your car, check into a motel, get insurance, go to a doctor, register to vote, drive, get a cell phone, any utilities for your home, even to get a bus pass you need ID... so why wouldn't we need ID to cast a vote? and why is it just democrats are the ones that are so worried about it? Because Democrats gain the most from voter fraud. Who do you think an illegal alien is going to vote for if he/she is just here to get what this country can offer. do you mean illegal aliens who dont even report crimes against them for fear of being 'deported'? it just rarely happens,,,relatively speaking, and an ID law doesnt stop the frauds who do exist from continuing to defraud,,,but it will stop lawful people who just dont want to have to be required to put forth extra effort and money to take advantage of the right they registered to have |
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msharmony
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Thu 03/15/12 06:32 PM
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As a registered voter in PA, I have always been asked to show photo ID at my local polling location even when I know the people who are checking for my registration. So this becoming a law will not change anything for me. I don't see where this should be a problem unless the people who are complaining are planning on moving to PA. it wont be a problem for pa, but in other places where showing id has not been required previously, it will cause unnecessary , unfruitful, and probably counterproductive extra efforts for millions of registered voters who do not have current ownership of a picture id (or the documents required to order one).... I disagree. We only have to register ONCE. From the time we register , over the years, anything could happen that may cause us to no longer have the id we used at registration. Asking people to rush in an election year to make that 'extra' effort may not be worth it to the large percentage who have in the past appreciated the convenience of going to their local shop or polling place and putting in their vote,,,,however, leaving the laws as they are will in the worst case continue the leas than ONE Percent of voting that is fraudulent |
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As a registered voter in PA, I have always been asked to show photo ID at my local polling location even when I know the people who are checking for my registration. So this becoming a law will not change anything for me. I don't see where this should be a problem unless the people who are complaining are planning on moving to PA. it wont be a problem for pa, but in other places where showing id has not been required previously, it will cause unnecessary , unfruitful, and probably counterproductive extra efforts for millions of registered voters who do not have current ownership of a picture id (or the documents required to order one).... |
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Topic:
Creation vs. Evolution.
Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 03/15/12 06:09 PM
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except that I dont think sex is usually an accidental occurrence
we can prevent creation of life by refraining from sex, so it is a controlled occurrence,, in my opinion a much different standard than a random series of consequences which created thousands of seperate species of life cohabitating together in one system,,, I do agree with brava though, that minglers arent going to find the answer (at least not one they can actually prove or show has been proven) |
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Actually its 25.00 to change address........... here is the way it is written in the driver handbook......... 3.4.2 - Change of Address You must obtain a new license within 10 days of any change to your mailing or residential address. You may change the address on your driver license or identification card by: 1. Mail: be sure to include your complete name, new address, driver license number, and date of birth. Mail to Division of Motorist Services, Post Office Box 5775, Tallahassee, Florida 32314-5775. Include a $25 check or money order payable to DHSMV. You will receive the appropriate corrections by mail. Please allow 30 days for processing. 2. Visiting your local Motorist Services office or Tax Collector licensing agent. There is a $25 license fee. 3. Internet at: www.gorenew.com. There is a $25 license fee. 4. After your request is processed, you will receive a new license. Florida law requires that you destroy your old driver license after receiving the new license. Non-immigrants will need to go to a driver license office or Tax Collector licensing agent to change the address on a driver license or identification card. If you fail to report a change of address you may not receive your motor vehicle registration renewal or your driver's license renewal. If you are pulled over by law enforcement and the address on your driver license is incorrect, you may receive a citation. You must report it within 10 days of your move or go and change it in the office or it is a 60.00 citation, but speeding is against the law too. Anytime, you recieve a citation you have broken the law. gotcha, so some states require registered drivers to keep their information updated or be fined |
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I am required to complete 180 credits of school for a bachelors
but its not illegal for me not to complete 180 credit hours |
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How many more excuses can be made? State lawmakers get elected by the people of the state vote them in. Here in WI a big issue was voter ID. That's one of the reasons these officials got elected and they passed a voter ID law here. Now I'll ask again why does this administration have the DOJ going after these states that passed voter ID laws? or not from http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/05/10/wisconsin-set-to-disenfranchise-likely-democratic-party-voters/ In fact, there has been a sum total of 20 people charged with some form of voter fraud out of the millions of Wisconsin residents who voted in the 2008 election. And over half of them are already on voter denial lists as they are convicted felons from http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/02/381172/reince-priebus-voter-fraud/?mobile=nc Research has found that voters are 39 times more likely to be struck by lightning than commit voter fraud at the polls, and 3,500 times more likely to report a UFO encounter. from http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/case_studies_by_state/ The 2000 election was hotly contested in Missouri, and various irregularities led to inflated claims of widespread fraud. Many of these fraud claims were later used to support the call for restrictive ID requirements. We examined each of the allegations of fraud by individual voters -- the only sort that ID could possibly address -- to uncover the truth behind the assertions. The allegations yielded only six substantiated cases of Missouri votes cast by ineligible voters, knowingly or unknowingly, except for those votes permitted by court order. The six cases were double votes by four voters -- two across state lines and two within Missouri -- amounting to an overall rate of 0.0003%. None of these problems could have been resolved by requiring photo ID at the polls. AS I said, stirring up much ado about less than nothing 'fear tactics' |
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do you have an ID MS? seems like they would have told you this... I have had one since I was sixteen, because I have been driving since then. I know many people who dont and have never driven. The regulations change from state to state. I have had ohio and nevada licenses and neither place required me to update within a certain time period. |
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thank you
but that link just shows an agency policy The agency requires ID holders to change their address within 30 days of relocating to a new address. Read more: How to Change Your Address On a Texas ID | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_7709644_change-address-texas-id.html#ixzz1pEUoTC8J this is not the same as it being 'against the law' |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? that is against the law... your id is supposed to show where you live.. what is against the law? having an id you paid for that doesnt display your current id? I doubt it. it makes sense to update it if you will be needing an ID for something, but its not illegal to have moved and not updated an id it just excludes you from being able to present it as ID anymore,,,, yes it is.... i know people that have gotten tickets for it...look it up you get a ticket for driving without a valid id,, not for HAVING an invalid one,,, In the State of Florida it is against law to move and not change your address within 10 days of your move....... really? which id's? what is the penalty? can you point me to this law online? |
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ok am getting a bit confused, i have heard show a little cleavage,dnt show any cleavage...what u think ladies and gentleman? I think it depends upon where you are going. IT helps to ask. If asking is out the question or the location is a mystery, it helps to just ask if its casual or formal dress. As to the rest, Id say if one is just looking to get laid, show as much skin as feels comfortable, is one is seeking attraction and respect and the potential for something longterm,, ID wear something tasteful,,,, |
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barry was born there,,, Barry SENIOR...... barry JR said he was too... just like daddy... watch the video, he says it a number of times yeah, and on nick jr, they have a video of mickey mouse singing neyos miss independent to minnie,,, doesnt make it real,,, |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? that is against the law... your id is supposed to show where you live.. what is against the law? having an id you paid for that doesnt display your current id? I doubt it. it makes sense to update it if you will be needing an ID for something, but its not illegal to have moved and not updated an id it just excludes you from being able to present it as ID anymore,,,, yes it is.... i know people that have gotten tickets for it...look it up you get a ticket for driving without a valid id,, not for HAVING an invalid one,,, |
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Topic:
the death penalty
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Abortion? or the other death penalty? It seems no matter the reason, right, wrong, or no reason at all, they are both just as dead and by the hand of man. I find it confusing to believe one is ok and the other is not. Conservative, Liberal, both philosophies seem to be half wrong in this debate. What WOULD Jesus do? I can only guess! Everything I have been taught leads me to believe that he would not tolerate either being killed. "Thou shalt not kill" Or was it, "Thou shalt not kill except in the case of!" I am a democrat and vote accordingly. Unfortunately that means that I vote for a platform that allows abortions to continue, and that is my choice, and probably will one day be my cross to bear. Let me suggest that each of us look at the issues of both abortion and capital punishment as the killing of humans by humans. Now without using political affiliation as a reason to decide, if each of us decide by the suggested criteria of killing = killing, where do you stand? Are you as dug in about your stand on it as a minute ago? I find it difficult to stand firm on what I would consider hypocritical ground, and find it just as difficult to understand how anyone could agree on one and not the other as unyieldingly as has been posted here. As for me I will probably wrestle with this conflict for the rest of my life. I agree with you, I oppose premeditated taking of life of human beings by human beings the difference in how the issues of abortion and death penalty are viewed lies in what is subjectively considered 'human life' I think those who support abortions can do so because they dont humanize life until it is 'in the world', leaving anything growing in the belly a mere object at the mercy of its owner... I think those who support death penalty do so because they view the life of a killer as less valuable than other life and distinguishing that life as a 'service' to the more worthy lives who havent killed |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? that is against the law... your id is supposed to show where you live.. what is against the law? having an id you paid for that doesnt display your current id? I doubt it. it makes sense to update it if you will be needing an ID for something, but its not illegal to have moved and not updated an id it just excludes you from being able to present it as ID anymore,,,, |
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the more i read this stuff, the more i realize how ignorant democrats are altogether...i really see nothing wrong with this bill, and every state should require an ID to vote. someone tell me how this is wrong. why would it be ok for non-citizens to vote in our elections? why is voter fraud good? dosen't any democrat want a fair and honest election? why would it be ok for legal citizens who do not have photo ids or whose id do not match their current resident during an election cycle to have to through added expense and effort to obtain one, and possibly a birth certificate which is required to get the id as well? |
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I Think the root of the debate is ones personal position about laws in general
some people prefer survival of the fittest, sink or swim, culture and consider laws a way of avoiding 'personal responsibility' others prefer law and 'order' and consider survival of the fittest suitable for animals and not humans, who they hold to a higher consciousness... I understand both philosophies/points of view I hold the latter,,,, |
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I Think the root of the debate is ones personal position about laws in general
some people prefer survival of the fittest, sink or swim, culture and consider laws a way of avoiding 'personal responsibility' others prefer law and 'order' and consider survival of the fittest suitable for animals and not humans, who they hold to a higher consciousness... I understand both philosophies/points of view I hold the latter,,,, |
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