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Sat 02/25/12 12:25 PM



No you don't need faith to know that you exist.


and that is why Truth does not require Faith ......ok now that we got that straight

now can you tell what Faith is without including "Truth" into the equation

That would be where nothing comes into play.

Faith without the filter of truth is a belief in nothing.

Or a belief in smoke and mirrors.



also, to be cliche

Hebrews 11:1

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

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Sat 02/25/12 12:23 PM


Definition of ZEALOUS
: marked by fervent partisanship for a person, a cause, or an ideal : filled with or characterized by zeal <zealous missionaries>



Definition of JEALOUS
1a : intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b : disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness
2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage
3: vigilant in guarding a possession <new colonies were jealous of their new independence — Scott Buchanan>


And also :

Adjective

zealous (comparative more zealous, superlative most zealous)

Full of zeal; ardent, fervent; exhibiting enthusiasm or strong passion.  [quotations ▼]

[edit] Synonyms

(full of zeal): ardent, eager, enthusiastic, fervent, passionate, zealotic

Related terms
zealously
zealousness
jealous
zeal
zealot






'related' isnt very specific,, they are spelled similar,, that could make them 'related'

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Sat 02/25/12 12:21 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 02/25/12 12:22 PM

Do you think people only get pregnant when they're trying to get pregnant?


I think they get pregnant mostly when they arent taking the correct precautions to NOT get pregnant,,,,


just like most people arent tRYING to get fat when they dont treat their bodies in the correct way,, but most people who take timee to MAKE SURE They treat their bodies correctly do not get fat,,,

and Im sure some people try to suck out their own fat in weird ways, but that doesnt mean those going through surgeries shouldnt be receiving the correct information about risks and expectations,,,

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Sat 02/25/12 12:20 PM




'truth' is truth, this is true

but 'truth' that has not been personally observed or experienced, does require 'faith' to believe

but not 'faith' to make it truth


so MsHarmony...using your words...so those that never personally observed or experienced God would require "Faith" to believe?




yes


so Faith is belief....not fact




asked and answered


faith, hope, despair, are all states of being , either reinforced or lessened by perception and 'truth'


which may or may not be based in 'fact'


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Sat 02/25/12 12:16 PM



While I agree that that is a terrible punishment and I wouldn't tolerate the school doing that to my child, I find it very hard to believe it caused his death a month later. Unless he caught some deadly virus while he was in there, which is possible I suppose.

I am not saying this didn't cause him trauma depression. Nor I am condoning the behaviour in any way, shape or form. But, I am sure it did not cause his death. Autopsy needed.


I agree. There is something else there. Being locked in the bathroom is excessive though(worse than an entire classroom as I first interpreted).

What something else can be there??

The school manager is arguing that the child was already ill.

Okay,Possibly that illness may have caused his death after a month.

If it is so,can anyone still make excuses???

I consider that school teacher more foolish & more cruel person as he didn't cared even about child's illness & given him the cruel punishment despite of being ill.

I think the teacher is more accused in latter case.

A SIX years old ILL child when being locked alone in bathroom for hours ( That too indian + villages + schools + bathrooms) & when he gets unconscious during this punishment,I wonder how can anyone say SURELY that,that cruel punishment is not the root cause of his death.

Even while writing here about schools washrooms; that dirty sharp smell sensed while just passing by is terrifying me by imagination of being locked inside that hell.









the 'something else' was in the detail of it being a BATHROOM and not a CLASSROOM

being in a CLASSROOM Is what children do all day, and I would find it hard to believe someone could 'die' from that....

and if they were ill, that death would happen regardless of whether said classroom was locked or unlocked


being in a BATHROOM, on the other hand, leaves open a much higher possibility of becoming ill due to the nature of the bathroom environment and space,,,,,,

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Sat 02/25/12 12:14 PM
Definition of ZEALOUS
: marked by fervent partisanship for a person, a cause, or an ideal : filled with or characterized by zeal <zealous missionaries>



Definition of JEALOUS
1a : intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b : disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness
2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage
3: vigilant in guarding a possession <new colonies were jealous of their new independence — Scott Buchanan>

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Sat 02/25/12 12:06 PM






Find where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ?


God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac as a sacifice

It was a test.

Abraham failed (but God judged him not).



God gave Abraham a direct command to kill his son but instead
Abraham chose to listen to an angel that told him not to do it...Abraham loved his son more than he loved God

probably another reason why God grieved


or maybe not

The angel of the LORD called to Abraham from heaven a second time and said, "I swear by myself, declares the LORD, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me." (Genesis 22:10-12, 15


but it's the fact that Abraham disobeyed a direct command from God...but yet followed the direct command of an angel




an angel of the LORD,,,angels cannot bless, this makes most sense in context to be representing GODS word,,,

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Sat 02/25/12 12:01 PM


'truth' is truth, this is true

but 'truth' that has not been personally observed or experienced, does require 'faith' to believe

but not 'faith' to make it truth


so MsHarmony...using your words...so those that never personally observed or experienced God would require "Faith" to believe?








yes

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Sat 02/25/12 12:00 PM

I have been thinking about this for awhile. So a conversation with no advice between two guys goes like this....

...1st guy, " My girlfriend is driving me nutz."
2nd guy, " The green gate opens at midnight."
1st guy, " I am tired of her telling me to ________."
2nd guy, " I just got a new shirt."
1st guy, " I just wish she would stop nagging."
2nd guy, " I should water the lawn."
1st guy, " Now she wants me to fix the car."
2nd guy, " I heard it snowed in Uganda for the first time ever."

IDK, looks like two people walking side by side, ignoring each other. Is this considered conversation?



laugh laugh laugh


there are other options though, the person could just say 'uh huh' every few sentences, but some people would be offended by that too

or a person could show compassion with utterances like 'aw, im so sorry, thats terrible',,, but some people would be offended by that

or a person could just ask questions 'what are you gonna do?, where will you go? how do you feel?' but some would be offended by that to....


lol,, you gotta just be you, and if you are close enough friends to share things with, your friend should let you know their preference

if its a stranger,,oh well,, you didnt ask them to share it with you,,,

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Sat 02/25/12 11:57 AM


@Bravalady

The idea that abortion must stay legal to avoid the back alley butchers and coat hangers is not an effective argument. Some who strongly oppose abortion feel the women who resort to back alley butchers and coat hangers deserve what they get.

Not my thoughts, not by a long shot. I don't understand that thinking. Just that the discussion has come up numerous times here.

So then make it illegal so the woman has only 2 choices,give birth or do it herself?What about rape victims?Let me guess thats Gods will or the little games he plays?Theres the morning after pill but it isn't always effective.For the prolifers who think they deserve what they get well that goes to show their hypocrisy.Man all this complaining about how the government controls what we eat and blah,blah blah...and now they can tell a woman what she can do with her body when it comes to pregnancy.Meh....all i can say is just because something becomes illegal doesn't mean it's gonna stop.



wow, Im surprised you missed the third choice

DONT GET PREGNANT,, believe it or not,, it is usually a choice , with contraceptives and condoms and surgeries and all,,,,,


nothing illegal has stopped, I dont think laws stop humans from acting out on human lusts and desires,,

laws just deter some of those lusts and desires with consequences

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Sat 02/25/12 11:50 AM


heterosexuals have had no issue with it,,,,,

if people really dont want government to be involved, they wouldnt be fighting for government aknowledgement,,,,


Many heterosexuals do have an issue with it and are fighting to make sure the government steps in and says no to gay marriage.



this is true

its the trend now,, people are drinking the kool aid that we shouldnt recognize or aknowledge in any way that men and women are different,,,,

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Sat 02/25/12 11:48 AM

Did you ask them why they went through a procedure like that without getting all the information they should have had?




no

I would guess similar to why we eat fast food without finding out whats in it,,,,, at the time, we want what we want and dont CARE to find out,,,

but I hold they physician to a bit higher knowledge(they paid to receive it and are paid well to dispense it,, in my opinion)


than the patient

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Sat 02/25/12 11:33 AM




Find where God said ppl to kill other ppl in his name ?


God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac as a sacifice

It was a test.

Abraham failed (but God judged him not).



God gave Abraham a direct command to kill his son but instead
Abraham chose to listen to an angel that told him not to do it...Abraham loved his son more than he loved God

probably another reason why God grieved


or maybe not

The angel of the LORD called to Abraham from heaven a second time and said, "I swear by myself, declares the LORD, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me." (Genesis 22:10-12, 15

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Sat 02/25/12 11:26 AM

You believers crack me up you're gonna defend your myth no matter if the story of your precious God was actually another story stolen by the hebrews.The amazing part is y'all know it was stolen but still believe in it.


non believers crack me up trying so hard to prove something unprovable is untrue



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Sat 02/25/12 11:26 AM


my answer would be

yes, faith is moral

'truth' is something that has to be tempered with logic and knowledge and the ability to put things in context and understand 'truth' as both subjective and objective, depending upon the situation,,,


a Truth is Truth and therefore would not require Faith that it was Truth

which is why explaining what Truth is does not explain what Faith is or if Faith is Moral



I answered two questions

no explanations given




'truth' is truth, this is true

but 'truth' that has not been personally observed or experienced, does require 'faith' to believe

but not 'faith' to make it truth

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Sat 02/25/12 12:52 AM

it means a real man as in not a blow up doll?

OR

a real man in terms of a man of honor and faith who has pulled up his big boy pants and is ready for a love relationship



yeah, thats kind of what I was thinking

real man = no longer a 'boy' or 'child' in their behavior or expectations

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Sat 02/25/12 12:26 AM
:wink: yeah,, thats ALL he was doing,,,,




laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 02/25/12 12:19 AM



Why not find out, rather than assuming they're going into it not knowing a thing?



Im not assuming anything, just posting my position on the issue

if they do it, great, if they dont , I think it would be in the patients best interest that they do


You're assuming that there are patients out there who aren't finding out what they need to, it seems. I guess I'd just try to find out more information before I assumed women were going through getting abortions without the needed information.



I have heard the stories from women who didnt realize until afterword the seriousness, that is the only information I have access to unless I survey doctors and trust they will tell me that they didnt give the information,,,,,,

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Sat 02/25/12 12:17 AM
heterosexuals have had no issue with it,,,,,

if people really dont want government to be involved, they wouldnt be fighting for government aknowledgement,,,,

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Fri 02/24/12 10:56 AM

Why not find out, rather than assuming they're going into it not knowing a thing?



Im not assuming anything, just posting my position on the issue

if they do it, great, if they dont , I think it would be in the patients best interest that they do

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