I was only addressing the post prior to mine. Apologies I should have been more specific

It is an additional tool for a prosecutor to use.

Rape is illegal right? So, why have additional laws about rape? Special circumstances? Under aged victim? Vaginal or anal? Rape with an object?

So...are you going to argue that one law making rape illegal is enough?

Some peoples views are so simplistic and limited I really wonder how they get through the day...oh wait..I know...they let other people tell them what to think haha

Didn't you get the memo?

Hate, prejudice, murder, assault, judging and speaking for God, discrimination and more are all perfectly fine...if you claim to be a "Christian"

Okay...in a nation that is choking on red state blue state politics here is some interesting information.

Mapping of the seven deadly sins! See link at the bottom for maps.


One nation, seven sins
Geographers measure propensity for evil in states, counties

By Abigail Goldman

Thu, Mar 26, 2009 (2 a.m.)

The question of evil and where it lurks has been largely ignored by the scientific community, which is why a recently released study titled “The Spatial Distribution of the Seven Deadly Sins Within Nevada” is groundbreaking: Never before has a state’s fall from grace been so precisely graphed and plotted.

Geographers from Kansas State University have used certain statistical measurements to quantify Nevada’s sins and come up with a county-by-county map purporting to show various degrees of lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy and pride in the Silver State. By culling statistics from nationwide databanks of things like sexually transmitted disease infection rates (lust) or killings per capita (wrath), the researchers came up with a sin index. This is a precision party trick — rigorous mapping of ridiculous data.

Their findings were presented Tuesday at the Association of American Geographers’ annual meeting at the Riviera, where Kansas State geography research associate Thomas Vought fielded questions while standing next to a poster of his research. Seven maps of Nevada, in seven different colors, for seven different sins.

The darker a county, the more evil it is.

Greed was calculated by comparing average incomes with the total number of inhabitants living beneath the poverty line. On this map, done in yellow, Clark County is bile (see map on Page 2).

Envy was calculated using the total number of thefts — robbery, burglary, larceny and stolen cars. Rendered in green, of course, Clark County is emerald.

Wrath was calculated by comparing the total number of violent crimes — murder, assault and rape — reported to the FBI per capita. Vought and his colleagues used the color red to illustrate wrath, so Clark County looks like a fresh welt. Washoe is slightly statistically duller. Everywhere else is a friendly pork pink.

Lust was calculated by compiling the number of sexually transmitted diseases — HIV, AIDS, syphilis, chlamydia and gonorrhea — reported per capita. Here again, Clark and Washoe counties are worst. Carson City County is a close third.

Gluttony was calculated by counting the number of fast food restaurants per capita, and this is one category where Clark County is bested. First in deep fry goes to Carson City.

Sloth was calculated by comparing expenditures on arts, entertainment and recreation with the rate of employment. Here again Clark County is beat, scoring only average on the scale of sloth.

And pride, lastly, is most important. The root of all sins, in this study, is the aggregate of all data. Vought and his Kansas colleagues combined all data from the six other sins and averaged it into an overview of all evil. So pride, mapped in purple, shows the states two darkest bruises: counties Clark and Carson City.

Yet, in the grand scheme of things, maybe we’re not that bad. While Vought and his colleagues spent four weeks on the detailed Nevada study, they also ran the numbers on some 3,000 counties across the country, a nationwide survey of sin.

Turns out Nevada is unremarkable when compared with other states. Sure, we have a little discoloration around Washoe and Clark counties when it comes to wrath, and Southern Nevada as a whole stands out in the nationwide map of greed, but other than that, we’re almost colorless, boring even, when compared with Texas, which ranked high for gluttony, or wrath, which was concentrated in Florida and surrounding states.

Moreover, the Kansas geographers also compared the level of sin in 10 top casino markets, and while the Las Vegas Strip ranked first for greed, it could muster no better than third place for pride, the aggregate of all sins. It was the southern gambling cities — Lula, Miss.; Biloxi, Miss.; and Shreveport, La., that came out on top of the bottom. Why, exactly, remains to be seen. The Kansas geographers started this project, it seems pretty clear, for the erudite amusement; something to stand out at a 6,000-person convention consumed with the world’s heavy questions. But if Tuesday’s convention crowd was evidence, the sin study was interesting to other scholars as well. So Vought and colleagues plan to continue their national study of evil.

“It’s too much fun,” Vought said, smiling in a way that suggested, if not pride, then a good deal of pleasure.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/mar/26/one-nation-seven-sins/

I think I am going to puke.

Real Christian attitude in the OP.

I would say more but...

just saying...here is a list of the five deadliest flu outbreaks in history.

1. The Peloponnesian War Pestilence

The very first pandemic in recorded history was described by Thucydides. In 430 BC, during the Peloponnesian war between Athens and Sparta, the Greek historian told of a great pestilence that wiped out over 30,000 of the citizens of Athens (roughly one to two thirds of all Athenians died).

Thucydides described the disease as such "People in good health were all of a sudden attacked by violent heats in the head, and redness and inflammation in the eyes, the inward parts, such as the throat or tongue, becoming bloody and emitting an unnatural and fetid breath." Next came coughing, diarrhea, spasms, and skin ulcers. A handful survived, but often without their fingers, sights, and even genitals (Source)

Until today, the disease that decimated ancient Athens has yet to be identified.
2. The Antonine Plague

In 165 AD, Greek physician Galen described an ancient pandemic, now thought to be smallpox, that was brought to Rome by soldiers returning from Mesopotamia. The disease was named after Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, one of two Roman emperors who died from it.

At its height, the disease killed some 5,000 people a day in Rome. By the time the disease ran its course some 15 years later, a total of 5 million people were dead.
3. The Plague of Justinian

In 541-542 AD, there was an outbreak of a deadly disease in the Byzantine Empire. At the height of the infection, the disease, named the Plague of Justinian after the reigning emperor Justinian I, killed 10,000 people in Constantinople every day. With no room nor time to bury them, bodies were left stacked in the open.

By the end of the outbreak, nearly half of the inhabitants of the city were dead. Historians believe that this outbreak decimated up to a quarter of human population in the eastern Mediterranean. (source)

What was the culprit? It was the bubonic plague, caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. This outbreak, the first known bubonic plague pandemic in recorded human history, marked the first of many outbreaks of plague - a disease that claimed as many as 200 million lives throughout history.
4. The Black Death

After the Plague of Justinian, there were many sporadic oubreaks of the plague, but none as severe as the Black Death of the 14th century.

While no one knows for certain where the disease came from (it was thought that merchants and soldiers carried it over caravan trading routes), the Black Death took a heavy toll on Europe. The fatality was recorded at over 25 million people or one-fourth of the entire population. (source)

It's interesting to note that the Black Death actually came in three forms: the bubonic, pneumonic, and septicemic plague. The first, the bubonic plague, was the most common: people with this disease have buboes or enlarged lymphatic glands that turn black (caused by decaying of the skin while the person is still alive). Without treatment, bubonic plague kills about half of those infected within 3 to 7 days.

In pneumonic plague, droplets of aerosolized Y. pestis bacteria are transmitted from human to human by coughing. Unless treated with antibiotics in the first 24 hours, almost 100% of people with this form of infection die in 2 to 4 days.

The last form, septicemic plague, happens when the bacteria enter the blood from the lymphatic or respiratory system. Patients with septicemic plague develop gangrenes in their fingers and toes, which turn the skin black (which gives the disease its moniker) Though rare, this form of the disease is almost always fatal - often killing its victims the same day the symptoms appear. (Photo and Source: Insecta-Inspecta)

We haven't heard the last of the bubonic plague. In 1855, another bubonic plague epidemic (named the Third Epidemic) hit the world - this time, the initial outbreak was in Yunnan Province, China. Human migration, trade and wars helped the disease spread from China to India, Africa, and the Americas.

All in all, this pandemic lasted about 100 years (it officially ended in 1959) and claimed over 12 million people in India and China alone.
5. The Spanish Flu


Emergency military hospital at Camp Funston, Kansas (Image: National Museum of Health and Medicine, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, Washington D.C.) via PLoS Biology

In March 1918, in the last months of World War I, an unusually virulent and deadly flu virus was identified in a US military camp in Kansas. Just 6 months later, the flu had become a worldwide pandemic in all continents.

When the Spanish Flu pandemic was over, about 1 billion people or half the world's population had contracted it. It is perhaps the most lethal pandemic in the history of humankind: between 20 and 100 million people were killed, more the number killed in the war itself (Source)

The Spanish Flu actually didn't originate in Spain - it got its name because at the time, Spain wasn't involved in the war and had not imposed wartime censorship, thus it received great press attention there.

Recently, scientists were able to "resurrect" the virus from a well-preserved corpse buried in the permafrost of Alaska.

Remember the debate over the stimulus bill?

Here's a gem from the debate.

Karl Rove complained that Obey's proposal included $462 million for the Centers for Disease Control, and $900 million for pandemic flu preparations.

Such a silly expenditure eh?

Maybe they should go with the Buddy Jesus?

Pic's of tits and toy trains?

Ummm I had this great toy train set but...I lost it...all those moves and all those acts of God...

catch McCain on CBS this morning talking about torture?

I thought it was interesting that he said we couldn't criminalize legal opinions...move on...but just minutes later in the same interview he said in support of the Geneva Convention that countries that disregaurded it would be assured of enforcement.

Umm I am pretty sure he said retribution.

Sorry but...Wtf is that?

McCain isn't a simple man. He dismisses inquiry into our own romps into torture...and then says what will discourage potential offenders is the possibility of retribution????

Gee whiz Wally...what about the rule of law?

Let's insist on applying it to everyone else but...

I am no babe in the wood...I know we have no high mormal ground...but there was a time we at least pretended to aspire to it...you know..before we were told to go shopping and love the bush?

Why is it wrong to think we as a nation can aspire to be better than our enemies? To embrace education and reject ignorance. To open our public square to all religions. To bare our faces in the sunlight and to embrace each other in a country that is the land of the free?

Oh well...I have wandered off the point...reason, purpose, the rule of law...what's that that's made us a beacon of hope? Don't squander this gift...partisanship makes it easy to disregard the amazing gift you have been given to be a citizen of the United Stated of America.

haha Saddle up kid I know a few older.

tits and toy trains...I bet I could rally the populace

So, FL makes up some Jesus licenses...I find this promotion of myth obscene..I think breasts are the fount of life...can I get a licenses plate with a breast in the center please?

Please...if we have to exposed to propaganda everywhere...why let's make the playing field even.

I want tits and toy trains on my plates!

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TALLAHASSEE — If you want Jesus on your license plate, the Florida Senate is looking out for you.

Because why worry about a budget impasse or property insurance when you can spend more than an hour talking about Jesus, the devil and license plates?

Religious specialty plates offered by Sen. Ronda Storms, R-Valrico, and Sen. Gary Siplin, D-Orlando, made it onto a bill Friday even though many members had not seen images of those plates and none was produced for the debate.

Siplin didn't mince words when asked what his "Trinity" plate looks like, saying, "It has a picture of my Lord and savior Jesus Christ." It, along with a "Preserving the Past" plate offered by Siplin, would benefit the Toomey Foundation for the Natural Sciences.

Storms' "I Believe" plate would benefit Faith in Teaching, an Orlando company that funds faith-based programs at schools. Its design features a cross over a stained-glass window.

Several members had concerns about approving plates they had not seen. And one questioned using religious symbols at all.

"The issue is whether the state of Florida ought to be producing license plates with religious images on them," said Sen. Ted Deutch, D-Boca Raton, "and I don't believe that we should."

Before the day was over, the Anti-Defamation League and the ACLU registered opposition and across the hall in the House, proposals for the same plates were withdrawn from legislation.

Florida has more than 100 specialty plates, with several new ones proposed this year.

Coming Monday: A push to eliminate all specialty plates within two years in favor of specialty stickers sold for use on standard Florida license plates. It's the idea of Sen. Victor Crist, R-Tampa, who said it will save the state money, generate more revenue for charities and most important, help "law enforcement clearly and swiftly identify a Florida license plate."

"What this does is it lets automobile owners have choice 1 and 2, both options, and to generate more money for the charities involved," Crist said. "It's a win-win situation."

Crist doesn't have a prototype of his idea, but said there would be two spots on each plate for maybe 2-inch-by-2-inch stickers, in the bottom right and left corners.

So, if you are a University of Florida graduate who loves manatees, you can support both on your tag. Crist, who will offer the amendment Monday, said the senators he has talked to really like the idea.

But those options would come too late for Friday's debate in the Senate, where Sen. Larcenia Bullard, D-Miami, invoked the devil to make her point: "What if someone comes next year and decides to vote on something that has the devil on it, and horns, horns on each side. I know that people are called the devil, but if the symbol of a devil is on it, I would not vote for that."

After a not-so-simple vote (two voice votes, a voided roll call vote, two quorum calls and finally one that counted), the amendment with Siplin's tags was adopted 22-13. Storms' tag passed on a voice vote.

For his part, Siplin said FAMU has a snake on its plate and the University of Miami has "a duck or something on their license plate so I think we should have an opportunity for every citizen around the state to be able to purchase a license plate of their choice."

Siplin wasn't bothered by the opposition, saying, "If you don't like that particular license plate, you're not forced to buy it."
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/legislature/article995257.ece

Lo...these years...some lyrics remain to be heard. In these times..with the working man bearing the blame while the bankers bank away more of our money...here is a perspective to consider.

Working Class Hero
by John Lennon

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so ****ing crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and class less and free
But you're still ****ing peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they are telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be
If you want to be a hero well just follow me
If you want to be a hero well just follow me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njG7p6CSbCU

TattooedDude81 I like your posts on this.

The Central was once a division that inspired a little trepidation in opponents...now...the best (apologies Tat) we can field is last years Vikes?

I hope to see us back as a division...umm...sorry..the Lions bring enough suck (not in a good way) for the whole league...so it's up to you all.

Go Green Bay!

I am not a chicken little type.

Still, I think...it has potential to be serious...just like lots of things.

My Great Aunt was part of a family of five when the Spanish flu spread through the US. They lived in Michigan's upper peninsula and thought they were insulated because it was a small community.

In a short time two of five were dead. Young healthy women.

If nature wishes to have her way...we aren't special.

News of the latest hypocrisy: From the great state of (we want to succede) Texas..Perry wants money...not that the state needs it right? They do everything right?

Piss on you all...after all...what do the feds do for you right? What do the other 49 states do for you? If I had my way we'd do nothing.

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Gov. Rick Perry today in a precautionary measure requested the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) provide 37,430 courses of antiviral medications from the Strategic National Stockpile to Texas to prevent the spread of swine flu. [...]

"As a precautionary measure, I have requested that medication be on hand in Texas to help curb the spread of swine flu by helping those with both confirmed and suspected cases of this swine flu virus, as well as healthcare providers who may have come in contact with these patients," said Gov. Rick Perry. "We will continue to work with our local, state and federal health officials to ensure public safety is protected."
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Oh...here is reminder...from April when Perry was playing you all like a cheap fiddle...with apologies to the fiddle.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."
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Walk the walk of stfu eh?

Perry...plays you haha

I am no stranger to the...

So...since I started this thread I am going to have my say now.

In July I will be fifty years old.

Old as dirt to some...maybe dirty to some...

Old enough to remember and witness our history.

Fifty years...but changes comes slowly. Please...I beg of you...be honest. Look around you and consider how you live your life. It seems to me people who feel threatened are even more entrenched in their prejudices than ever before. It's a pity...the work was so hard.

What purpose does hate and exclusion serve?

Here is positive!

Giving everyone a chance. Opening the field to all so that you know if you win you won on your own merit not a narrowed field. Ummm..I could try to fire controversy by pointing out that those who pissed and moaned about poor Miss CA not being pc...ohh nm

Sorry...I couldn't help myself.

I'm with quiet_2008

Read about it in the paper (yes the newspaper) tomorrow.

Gotta say....Lions first pick?

Another wrong decision from an organization who have only been consistent in one area...bad decisions. Millen is gone but his legion on yes men and idiots are still in place.

I am no fair weather fan. I believe in supporting local teams and businesses....but...this organization will no longer enjoy my support.

Of course it should be mentioned that Ford is still, despite having a team that exemplifies $uck, is still making money on the team.

Honestly I wondered if he wanted to sell in past hence his lack of commitment?

My father is a Green Bay fan having grown up in the UP. Guess I am going to be too. My patience is at an end.

./crosses her fingers

You are right when you say these offenders can be anyone. A neighbor, family member....anyone.

Here's a tip appropriate for a dating site. Do not posts pictures of your children or you with your children on a dating site. There are people who look for potential victims through dating sites.