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Thu 05/28/09 09:58 AM
I am all for treating animals humanely but my views are not those of PETA.

Also, I have to say I wouldn't hesitate to check out almost anyone who appears in public nude haha

I eat meat, I am an occasional hunter, I own animals and I think it's good to be on the top of the food chain.

PETA is in my view one of the most worthless groups on the planet.

If folks want to support animals consider a gift to your local shelter. They are under huge stress now with lower levels of charitable donations and people who are losing homes and jobs who must surrender pets.

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Wed 05/27/09 02:50 PM
All I was saying in my post is it doesn't matter who the nominee is...if Obama nominated Jesus Christ some on the forum will howl and are now as we see in the other thread on this subject.

I was not wrong.

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Wed 05/27/09 02:47 PM
First of all Thomas...judges do not vote.

I feel quite sure, from the tone of many posts, posters are simply puking what FOX news has told their viewers to think on to this forum. Each post in opposition to the nomination says basically the same thing and with posters refusing to answer specific points.

I wish Obmana had appointed a real hard core lefty now...just so the folks pissing and moaning would have something more than vague accusations and the spinning of a couple statements.

B-O-R-I-N-G

haha

Obama could have nominated Jesus Christ and the dull witted babble would be just the same as it is now.

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Wed 05/27/09 02:38 PM
Thanks for the mention of full faith and credit.

This ruling isn't the end of it by any means.

So, Thomas3474...if I am married in Michigan and move to Vermont do I have to get remarried there? Why no...I do not.

The flood gates are open like it or not.




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Wed 05/27/09 12:02 AM
I like this...

What would you add?

1. Play, genuinely play, with a little kid.

2. Tell someone you love them.

3. Donate unused computer time to cancer research (and other types of research) with BOINC

4. Use your blinker when you turn.

5. Pick a stretch of highway. Walk along and pick up all the trash you can. (It gets you exercise, money from recycling, and it makes the world a better place!)

6. Smile at someone. Just smile. Saying “Hello” often brightens a day too.

7. Round up a few loose coins. Put them in the next charity box you see.

8. Do something unexpected and artistic that will inspire people and shake them out of the sad mentality of the daily grind.

9. Plant flowers.

10. Search through your cabinets for a few cans of food you’ll probably never use. Donate them.

11. Hold the door for someone.

12. Pay a random stranger a compliment.

13. If you have a car, give people rides.

14. Volunteer your time to a suicide hotline

15. ...or volunteer your time as a mentor!

16. Return your shopping cart to the corral or to the store instead of leaving it loose or propped on a planter in the lot.

17. Offer someone a mint or a piece of gum or candy.

18. Park your car further from the store and walk the short extra distance. This frees up spots closer for people who may need them more than you, and gives you additional exercise too!

19. Take a child to the park or pool.

20. Kiss someone you love.

21. Donate things you don’t use to your local thrift store.

22. Donate time or materials to Habitat for Humanity

23. Bake cookies for someone.

24. Bring donuts to work one morning. (It costs next to nothing and makes everyone happy)

25. Clean house for someone you know who is too busy to keep on top of it.

26. Babysit for couples or single parents who don’t get out much so they can have some time alone.

27. If you see a piece of trash on the ground, pick it up.

28. Take a risk and do something major instead, like adopting a child.

29. Knit, quilt or crochet a blanket and send it to Project Linus

30. Instead of buying new batteries, buy rechargeables.

31. Make breakfast in bed for someone you love.

32. Find something you’re good at and use it to help someone else.

33. Learn a new language, then volunteer as an interpreter.

34. Know someone who is sad and single? Find someone to hook them up with!

35. Bring coffee or baked goods to city workers who might appreciate it.

36. Help someone with a heavy load.

37. Adopt a pet from the humane society.

38. Boost the morale of someone close to you by telling them what you love about them.

39. Hug a teacher, let them know how important they are. (Without them, you wouldn’t be reading this... or anything else, for that matter.)

40. Look for ways to save a few extra bucks a month. Donate it.

41. Remember to splurge a little on yourself once in a while. You’ll feel better.

42. Shop at your local charity thrift store. The money you spend there helps others.

43. Send a gift or a thank you card to the troops in Iraq. Support them even if you don’t support the war.

44. Spend a few clicks of your time at Free Rice

45. Leave an encouraging or positive comment on a stranger’s webpage.

46. If someone is tailgating you, let them pass and wish them well, without the anger.

47. If there’s been an accident or a potentially hazardous situation presents itself on the road (i.e. you see a cow on the wrong side of the fence) dial 911 and tell them about it. Your phone call could save a life.

48. If someone you love really likes something (a meal, a favor, etc.) give it to them when they least expect it.

49. Learn a new skill, then teach it to someone else.

50. Wave to your neighbors.

51. Spend less time watching T.V.

52. Open car doors for your driver or passengers.

53. Give blood.

54. Become an organ donor.

55. Buy books for a library, daycare center or school.

56. Slip a $20 bill anonymously to someone you know who is having financial difficulty.

57. Dance with someone.

58. Organize volunteers to make a bigger difference.

59. Create a public art contest for children.

60. Put a jar full of rocks in your toilet tank to reduce the amount of water wasted with each flush.

61. Support activists and people on strike.

62. Share family recipes.

63. Help someone with their homework.

64. Grow your hair out, then donate it to Locks of Love

65. Put a quarter in someone else’s parking meter.

66. Click ads on blogs or articles published by relatively unknown authors. It costs nothing, and even one click will brighten their day. :)

67. Gather up your used batteries and electronics. Donate them.

68. Volunteer some time to cheering people up at your local retirement home.

69. Replace the bulbs in your home with energy saving bulbs. Invest in solar, if you can.

70. If the person ahead of you or behind you in line at the store has only a few items, buy them for him or her.

71. ...or, if you don’t have much money and the person behind you has only a few items, let them go before you.

72. Donate to a cause that helps families in third world countries (consider– the amount of money the average family spends on a birthday in a first world country could feed a family of six for a year in many third world countries)

73. Buy organic food from local farmers (Start by going to your local farmer’s market!)

74. Opt in for electronic billing, statements, etc. and save paper!

75. Drop off your old glasses at your local lenscrafters as a donation to the Gift of Sight program.

76. Don’t smoke near others.

77. Turn the other cheek.

78. Generate money for the charity of your choice by searching with Good Search

79. Make a list of birthdays for people you know. Surprise them with a happy birthday email, card, text, or anything else that lets them know you remembered. It might be the only one they get!

80. Be there for someone. Listen to their troubles.

81. Grow some of your own vegetables, even if only out of a pot indoors.

82. If you have land, invest in livestock. Chickens are a great place to start, and they make great pets, even if you don’t eat them.

83. Stop for a person waiting to cross the street or merge into traffic.

84. Pay the toll for someone behind you.

85. Encourage a friend to reach for their dreams and shoot for the farthest goal.

86. Tape coins to a payphone with a note saying they’re for whoever needs them.

87. Donate cereal box tops to your local school, even if you don’t have kids.

88. Support independent artists by purchasing books by unknown authors from publishers that aren’t in the mainstream.

89. ...and if you enjoyed the book, write the author a note telling them how much you loved it.

90. Cut up the plastic rings on six pack holders so animals don’t get caught in them.

91. Use a clothesline to dry clothes instead of using an electric or gas dryer.

92. Offer free hugs to complete strangers.

93. Forgive a debt

94. Adopt a soldier, inmate or someone who is down on their luck as a pen pal.

95. When you are waiting for service at a deli counter, swap call numbers with someone who is in a hurry.

96. Become a master of setting clocks on electronic devices. Set every one you pass to the correct time.

97. Write a poem, good or bad, and then read it at an open microphone event.

98. Write a nice note to or about your waiter or waitress on the back of your bill.

99. On a hot day, buy someone something cold to drink– on a cold day, get them something warm.

100. Recommend people to friends who might appreciate their services.

101. Look for new and better ways every day to make the world a better, happier, and more pleasant place to live for everyone. If we all did just one thing every day, we could really begin to make a positive difference worldwide.

http://hubpages.com/hub/101-Easy-Ways-You-Can-Make-The-World-A-Better-Place

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Tue 05/26/09 11:41 PM
HA HA HA

WOW...Thomas3474...I am not fond of you but...you are borrowing at best.

If she is confirmed she will be the 6th Catholic on the court. Funny really, I am no fan of Catholics but you'd think someone like you would be all in favor of that. After all, don't most Catholics lean to the pro-choice side? Umm maybe now but...

Your comment is straight outta the play book. cool beans...

You are aware she has ruled in favor of a pro-life group in past?

So, sweetpie...she is ultra-left? Prove it?

What's hardly surprising is that you would say that. Let's be honest, no matter who Obama nominated there are a bunch that would brand the nominee "ultra-left"

Umm so, you are saying that Bush I who originally nominated her to the federal bench nominated an "ultra-liberal"? Wow...imagine that? I guess Orrin Hatch the leftist liberal voting to put her on the appellate bench was an ultra-liberal too.

Gee...those two..ultra liberals...Bush I and Hatch...they are pretty far left aren't they?

/smirk




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Tue 05/26/09 11:27 PM
Umm Thomas3474 do you understand the difference between the state courts and the federal courts?

"For once the Supreme court actually mentioned "the wills of the voters" "

The California Supreme Court and the Supreme Court of the United States are not the same. I could talk about federal districts too but...

The issue isn't dead...far from it.

In the meantime...what ever you do...if you don't believe in same sex marriage...please don't marry someone of the same sex!

Resist! After all...I know if the courts recognized marrying mules legal....ummm never mind


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Tue 05/26/09 11:19 PM
Now...if they were tossing a salad on the ice...yeah boot em out hahaha

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Tue 05/26/09 11:17 PM
haha

Okay so the undeniably formerly talented Patrick Roy is all set to jump into the driver seat at CO. No surprises there...they still love Frenchmen and are true to their roots.

Still, he has no clear record of success in the minors as a coach or owner. There is one good bit here though. He is an attention whore, a well known public figure, a scrapper and someone who will draw attention (for better or worse) to the game.

As a Detroit fan all my life I like this because well...it will or should put some juice in old rivalries.

Still, I don't think he deserves it.

Oh, and...they could stow the news for abit...it should be about the play-offs now not As the Av's Turn soap crap....plenty of time for that later.

avalanche
Report: Roy has combo offer
By Adrian Dater
The Denver Post
Posted: 05/25/2009 01:00:00 AM MDT

According to a Montreal report, Pierre Lacroix has upped the ante in his pursuit of Patrick Roy to rejoin the Avalanche.

Ruefrontenac.com — a website run by locked-out journalists from Le Journal de Montreal — reported Sunday that Avs president Lacroix has offered Roy the jobs of coach and general manager, and that Roy wants to hire Sylvain Lefebvre and Guy Boucher as his assistant coaches.

The Avalanche had no comment. The Denver Post reported last Monday the Avs offered Roy the coaching job, and in an online report that day also said there was a possibility he might get the vacant GM job, too.

But the Ruefrontenac.com report, citing sources close to Roy, said Lacroix is offering Roy virtual carte blanche of the hockey operations as a way of one-upping any offer that might come his way from another team — particularly the Montreal Canadiens, whose coaching job is vacant. Bob Gainey is the Canadiens' GM and is expected to stay in the position.

Lefebvre, a former Avs defenseman, was an assistant coach last season with the Avs' American Hockey League affiliate, the Lake Erie Monsters. Boucher is coach of Drummondville of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, where Roy has coached since 2005 with the Quebec Remparts.

The Montreal report said Craig Billington, the Avs vice president of hockey operations, could serve as a co-GM with Roy. Billington was Roy's backup with the Avs in the late 1990s.

Adrian Dater: 303-954-1360 or adater@denverpost.com


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Tue 05/26/09 11:06 PM
Humm so "empathy" is a red flag?

Just what sort of red flag is it?

Before you answer...just so I am not setting anyone up please have a look at the words of Bush when nominating Clarence Thomas. He sites his "great empathy"....so, ladies...let me get this right please...and excuse me if I have trouble surpressing my giggles here...

"Empathy" differs from "great empathy" how? From a republican president it's unremarkable but from a democrat it is an indication of judicial activism? Humm maybe Coke cans are the determining factor? /smirk


From Bush's July 1, 1991, remarks (accessed from the Nexis database):

After graduation from Yale Law School, he worked for then Missouri attorney general John Danforth, and spent 2 1/2 years litigating cases of all descriptions. In 1977, Judge Thomas practiced law in the private sector, and in 1979, he rejoined Senator Danforth as a legislative assistant in the U.S. Senate. In 1981, President Reagan appointed him Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights in the Department of Education. From 1982 to 1990, he served as President Reagan's Chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. And I appointed him to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia in 1990.

I have followed this man's career for some time, and he has excelled in everything that he has attempted. He is a delightful and warm, intelligent person who has great empathy and a wonderful sense of humor. He's also a fiercely independent thinker with an excellent legal mind, who believes passionately in equal opportunity for all Americans. He will approach the cases that come before the Court with a commitment to deciding them fairly, as the facts and the law require.

Judge Thomas' life is a model for all Americans, and he's earned the right to sit on this nation's highest Court. And I am very proud, indeed, to nominate him for this position, and I trust that the Senate will confirm this able man promptly.




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Tue 05/26/09 12:00 PM
Decisions made at that level certainly do affect policy.

Here's some additional information on her record from SCOTUS Blog.

Judge Sotomayor’s Appellate Opinions in Civil Cases
Friday, May 15th, 2009 10:49 am | Tom Goldstein | Print This Post

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Judge Sonia Sotomayor is an obviously serious candidate to serve on the Supreme Court. We have been struck by how the amount of commentary about Judge Sotomayor has ignored the most accessible and valuable source of information: her opinions as an appellate judge. Last year, I directed a project in which a team of Akin Gump summer associates extensively reviewed Judge Sotomayor’s opinions. Amy Howe subsequently revised and expanded their work, with contributions by me.

Here, we make our first effort at summarizing what we regard as Judge Sotomayor’s principal opinions in civil cases. Our only goal is to identify and summarize the opinions, not evaluate them.

A summary of additional civil cases, as well as Judge Sotomayor’s leading criminal law opinions will follow.

CIVIL LITIGATION

Since joining the Second Circuit in 1998, Sotomayor has authored over 150 opinions, addressing a wide range of issues, in civil cases. To date, two of these decisions have been overturned by the Supreme Court; a third is under review and likely to be reversed. In those two cases (and likely the third), Sotomayor’s opinion was rejected by the Supreme Court’s more conservative majority and adopted by its more liberal dissenters (including Justice Souter). Those outcomes suggest that Sotomayor’s views would in many respects be similar to those of Justice Souter.

Abortion Rights: Although Sotomayor has not had a case dealing directly with abortion rights, she wrote the opinion in Center for Reproductive Law and Policy v. Bush, 304 F.3d 183 (2d Cir. 2002), a challenge to the “Mexico City Policy,” which prohibited foreign organizations receiving U.S. funds from performing or supporting abortions. An abortion rights group (along with its attorneys) brought claimed that the policy violated its First Amendment, due process, and equal protection rights. Relying on the Second Circuit’s earlier decision in Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc. v. Agency for International Development, which dealt with a virtually identical claim, Sotomayor’s opinion rejected the group’s First Amendment claim on the merits. Turning to the plaintiffs’ due process claim, Sotomayor held that they lacked standing because they alleged only a harm to foreign organizations, rather than themselves. Sotomayor held that the plaintiffs did have standing with regard to their equal protection claim, but she ultimately held that the claim failed under rational basis review because the government “is free to favor the anti-abortion position over the pro-choice position” with public funds.

First Amendment - Speech: Sotomayor has considered First Amendment issues relatively infrequently. In addition to Center for Reproductive Law and Policy (just discussed), one of her more controversial cases was Pappas v. Giuliani, 290 F.3d 143 (2d Cir. 2002), involving an employee of the New York City Police Department who was terminated from his desk job because, when he received mailings requesting that he make charitable contributions, he responded by mailing back racist and bigoted materials. On appeal, the panel majority held that the NYPD could terminate Pappas for his behavior without violating his First Amendment right to free speech. Sotomayor dissented from the majority’s decision to award summary judgment to the police department. She acknowledged that the speech was “patently offensive, hateful, and insulting,” but cautioned the majority against “gloss[ing] over three decades of jurisprudence and the centrality of First Amendment freedoms in our lives just because it is confronted with speech is does not like.” In her view, Supreme Court precedent required the court to consider not only the NYPD’s mission and community relations but also that Pappas was neither a policymaker nor a cop on the beat. Moreover, Pappas’s speech was anonymous, “occur[ring] away from the office on [his] own time.” She expressed sympathy for the NYPD’s “concerns about race relations in the community,” which she described as “especially poignant,” but at the same time emphasized that the NYPD had substantially contributed to the problem by disclosing the results of its investigation into the racist mailings to the public. In the end, she concluded, the NYPD’s race relations concerns “are so removed from the effective functioning of the public employer that they cannot prevail over the free speech rights of the public employee.”

More recently, in Kraham v. Lippman, 478 F.3d 502 (2d Cir. 2007), she wrote an opinion holding that a rule prohibiting high-ranking political party officials from receiving court fiduciary appointments (such as appointments as guardians ad litem) in New York state courts did not violate the plaintiff’s right to freedom of political association. Sotomayor acknowledged that the rule required individuals to choose between holding a high-ranking party position and receiving court appointments, but she ultimately concluded that such an “incidental effect on individual decision-making, however, furthers the rational and legitimate goal of eliminating corrupt court appointments.”

First Amendment - Religion: In addition to her dissent in Hankins v. Lyght, 441 F.3d 96 (2d Cir. 2006), discussed below, in Ford v. McGinnis, 352 F.3d 382 (2d Cir. 2003), Sotomayor wrote an opinion that reversed a district court decision holding that a Muslim inmate’s First Amendment rights had not been violated because the holiday feast that he was denied was not a mandatory one in Islam. Sotomayor held that the inmate’s First Amendment’s rights were violated because the feast was subjectively important to the inmate’s practice of Islam. But in Duamutef v. Hollins, 297 F.3d 108 (2d Cir. 2002), Sotomayor wrote an opinion holding that an inmate’s First Amendment rights were not violated by prison officials’ monitoring of his mail - prompted by the inmate’s receipt of a book with the title “Blood in the Streets: Investment Profits in a World Gone Mad” - because the inmate had previously caused disturbances and the prison needed to forestall security problems.

Civil Rights: During her years on the Second Circuit, Sotomayor has decided cases involving race, sex, age and disability discrimination. In these cases, she has often - but not always - sided with the plaintiffs.

Sotomayor’s dissent in Gant v. Wallingford Board of Education, 195 F.3d 134 (2d Cir. 1999), is perhaps her most strongly worded opinion addressing discrimination. Plaintiff Ray Gant, who was transferred mid-year from first grade to kindergarten because of academic difficulties, alleged that the school was deliberately indifferent to racial hostility that he suffered and discriminated against him through the transfer. Sotomayor agreed with the majority’s decision to dismiss the racial harassment claim, but she rejected their conclusion that the transfer was not race discrimination. In her view, the transfer was “unprecedented and contrary to the school’s established policies”: white students having academic difficulties, she noted, received compensatory help, whereas Gant - the “lone black child” in his class - was not given an “equal chance” but was instead demoted to kindergarten just nine days after arriving at the school.

However, in Norville v. Staten Island University Hospital, 196 F.3d 89 (2d Cir. 1999), Sotomayor wrote an opinion that dismissed claims brought by a disabled black woman, who alleged that her employer did not give her the same accommodations for her disabilities that it provided to white employees, on the ground that the plaintiff had failed to prove that she was similarly situated to the white employees. Similarly, in Williams v. R.H. Donnelly Co., 368 F.3d 123 (2004), she wrote an opinion holding that an employee alleging racial (as well as gender) discrimination had not proven she was the victim of discrimination when her employer declined to create a position for her when the employer had never created a position for any particular employee.

In two cases, Sotomayor has voted to sustain claims alleging a hostile work environment. In Cruz v. Coach Stores, 202 F.3d 560 (2d Cir. 2000), she wrote for the panel in a case brought by a Hispanic woman alleging, inter alia, claims arising from a hostile work environment, failure to promote, and retaliation. The Second Circuit affirmed the district court’s dismissal of the failure-to-promote and retaliation claims but reversed the district court’s decision granting summary judgment on the hostile work environment claim. Citing the allegations of racial slurs by the plaintiff’s supervisor and sexual harassment, as well as the plaintiff’s assertion that she was fired “under the pretext of fighting in the workplace after she was physically beaten and sexually assaulted,” the panel acknowledged that “Cruz might have stated her claim of hostile work environment harassment more artfully,” but emphasized that “the essential elements of the charge do appear in the complaint.” And, the panel continued, the “physically threatening nature of [the supervisor’s] behavior, which repeatedly ended with him backing Cruz into the wall . . . brings this case over the line separating merely offensive or boorish conduct from actionable sexual harassment.” Moreover the opinion noted, “a jury could find that [the supervisor’s] racial harassment exacerbated the effect of his sexually threatening behavior and vice versa.”

And in Raniola v. Bratton, 243 F.3d 610 (2d Cir. 2001), she was part of a panel that considered hostile work environment and retaliation claims by a female police officer who was allegedly denied desirable shifts, threatened with physical violence, and implicated as a “rat” in front of her male co-workers. The district court had granted the defendants’ motion for judgment as a matter of law. In rejecting Raniola’s hostile work environment claim, it described the “camaraderie of a precinct house,” which lacks “some of the niceties of expression.” With Sotomayor writing, the Second Circuit reversed. In the panel’s view, Raniola had presented enough evidence to take both her hostile work environment and retaliation claims to a jury. With regard to the hostile work environment, it emphasized that during a two-and-a-half-year period, “Raniola was subjected to offensive sex-based remarks, disproportionately burdensome work assignments, workplace sabotage, and one serious public threat of physical harm.” And it rejected the district court’s “conclusion that ‘there is no evidence that plaintiff herself felt that the use of barnyard expletives directed to her or others made her work environment offensive.” Similarly, although all of the disciplinary actions at issue took place after Raniola transferred to another precinct, her former supervisor’s role “in prosecuting her charges, the timing of the prosecution, and the surrounding events all lend support to Raniola’s retaliation claim.”

Sotomayor has rarely written in age discrimination cases. However, she authored a forceful dissent in Hankins v. Lyght, 441 F.3d 96 (2d Cir. 2006), a case involving a minister who filed suit under the Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) after he was forced by his church to retire at the age of 70. The district court dismissed the claim; on appeal, the Second Circuit reversed, holding that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), which - subject to certain exceptions - prohibits the government from substantially burdening the exercise of religion, had effectively amended the ADEA by providing a defense for ADEA violations. In her dissent, Sotomayor complained that the majority had “violate[d] a cardinal principle of judicial restraint” when it - unnecessarily, in her view - held that the RFRA was constitutional. Moreover, she deemed the panel’s decision to remand the case to the district court for briefing on the RFRA issue “a wasteful expenditure of judicial resources and an unnecessary and uninvited burden on the parties.” Instead, she would have affirmed the district court’s dismissal and held that the ADEA does not apply to employment suits against religious institutions by their leaders.

Sotomayor has been perhaps most sympathetic to claims of discrimination arising from a disability. In Parker v. Columbia Pictures, 204 F.3d 326 (2d Cir. 2000), she was the author of an opinion that followed decisions of other circuits applying Title VII’s “mixed motive” analysis to the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), holding that the case should be remanded to the district court because the plaintiff satisfied the elements for a prima facie case of discrimination based on disability. And she has twice dissented from the majority’s decision to deny a discrimination claim. In EEOC v. J.B. Hunt Transportation, Inc., 321 F.3d 69 (2d Cir. 2003), she would have held that the plaintiff had made out a prima facie case of disability discrimination because the defendants rejected all applicants for long-haul truck driving who took certain medications. See also Nielson v. Colgate-Palmolive, 199 F.3d 642 (2d Cir. 1999) (citing Goldberg v. Kelly for the proposition that “the opportunity to be heard must be tailored to the capacities and circumstances of those who are to be heard” and arguing that when “a party exhibits a limited ability to understand a proceeding affecting her rights, the court must undertake even more strenuous efforts to explain the process”)

Sotomayor has twice weighed in on retaliation claims: in Raniola (described above) and in Washington v. County of Rockland, 373 F.3d 310 (2d Cir. 2004). In Raniola, Sotomayor wrote an opinion in which the panel agreed with the plaintiff that her suspension, probation, and termination occurred in retaliation for her discrimination complaints: one week after Raniola filed a complaint, her supervisor told her that he would give her a poor work evaluation, transfer her from her precinct, and charge her in administrative proceedings. This evidence, along with witness testimony, provided a reasonable basis to find that any legitimate reasons for her termination were pretext for retaliation. However, Sotomayor wrote an opinion rejecting retaliation claims in Washington, in which the plaintiffs - African-American correction officers - were subjected to administrative disciplinary proceedings after filing discrimination complaints. The panel agreed that the administrative proceedings had adverse employment consequences on the plaintiffs, but in her view those adverse consequences, standing alone, did not demonstrate retaliation.

In Malesko v. Correctional Services Corp., 229 F.3d 374 (2000), an inmate who served time in a halfway house operated on behalf of the Bureau of Prisons by a private corporation sought to sue the corporation (and its employees) for injuries that he suffered in the halfway house. In an opinion by Sotomayor, the court of appeals reversed the district court, holding that the inmate could bring a Bivens action against a private corporation acting under color of federal law. Such a result, she explained, “furthers Bivens’s overriding purpose: providing redress for constitutional rights.” Moreover, in the absence of any allegations that the government played a role in the “various policies or practices [that] led to” the inmate’s injury, the corporation was not shielded from liability under the government contractor defense. The Supreme Court granted certiorari and reversed by a five-to-four vote. 534 U.S. 61 (2001). In an opinion by then-Chief Justice Rehnquist, the Court held that Bivens was “concerned solely with deterring the unconstitutional acts of individual officers” and that there was “no reason for us to consider extending Bivens beyond this core premise here.” Justice Stevens - joined by Justices Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer - dissented. In their view, because the violation at issue “was committed by a federal agent - a private corporation employed by the Bureau of Prisons to perform functions that would otherwise be performed by individual employees of the Federal Government,” the question before the Court was merely “whether the Court should create an exception to the straightforward application of Bivens” and its progeny, “not whether it should extend our cases beyond their ‘core premise.’”

Perhaps the highest-profile discrimination case in which Sotomayor has participated (though she did not write a signed opinion) is Ricci v. DeStefano, a challenge by a group of white firefighters in New Haven, Connecticut to the city’s decision not to certify an employment test for use in promotions when the use of the test results would have made a disproportionate number of white applicants eligible for promotions than minority applicants. The city defended its conduct on the ground that it feared that certifying the results of the test would expose it to a discrimination suit by minority applicants. Sotomayor was part of a three-judge panel that initially affirmed the district court’s judgment in the city’s favor with a summary order that described the district court’s decision as a “thorough, thoughtful, and well-reasoned opinion.” The order noted that the judges were “not unsympathetic to the plaintiff’s expression of frustration,” but it explained that “it simply does not follow that he has a viable Title VII claim.” The panel eventually replaced the summary order with a per curiam opinion that was otherwise virtually identical to the order. 530 F.3d 87 (2008). Sotomayor was one of seven judges of the Second Circuit to vote to deny rehearing en banc; six other judges dissented from the denial. In January 2009, the Supreme Court granted certiorari, and it heard oral argument in April 2009. A decision in the case is expected by late June, and it is likely that the Supreme Court will reverse.

Environmental Law: Sotomayor’s most notable environmental-law opinion is Riverkeeper v. EPA, 475 F.3d 83 (2d Cir. 2007), a challenge to an EPA rule regulating cooling-water intake structures at power plants. To minimize the adverse impact on aquatic life (which could otherwise be trapped against the intake structure or, if small enough, sucked into the pipes themselves), the Clean Water Act requires the intake structures to use the “best technology available,” without specifying what factors the EPA should consider in determining what constitutes the “best technology available.” Sotomayor wrote and opinion holding that the EPA was not permitted to engage in a cost-benefit analysis to determine “best technology available”; instead, it could consider cost only to determine “what technology can be ‘reasonably borne’ by the industry” and whether the proposed technology was “cost-effective” - which, she concluded, requires the EPA in turn to determine whether the technology at issue is “a less expensive technology that achieves essentially the same results” as the best technology that the industry could reasonably bear. Thus, she explained, “assuming the EPA has determined that power plants governed by the Phase II Rule can reasonably bear the price of technology that saves between 100-105 fish, the EPA, given a choice between a technology that costs $100 to save 99-101 fish and one that costs $150 to save 100-103 fish . . . could appropriately choose the cheaper technology on cost-effectiveness grounds.” On this issue, Sotomayor remanded to the EPA, finding it “unclear” how the EPA had arrived at its conclusions and, in particular, whether the EPA had improperly weighed costs and benefits.

Sotomayor also held that the EPA could not consider restoration measures - such as restocking fish to compensate for fish killed by an intake system - when determining the best technology available for a particular power plant. Sotomayor wrote that “[r]estoration measures are not part of the location, design, construction, or capacity of cooling water intake structures, and a rule permitting compliance with the statute through restoration measures allows facilities to avoid adopting any cooling water intake structure technology at all, in contravention of the Act’s clear language as well as its technology-forcing principle.” Finally, Sotomayor also determined that, at a minimum, EPA’s determination that the CWA provision at issue applies to existing and new facilities was a reasonable interpretation of the statute.

The industry plaintiffs filed petitions for certiorari, which the Supreme Court granted in April 2008 to review the cost-benefit issue. By a vote of 6-3, the Court reversed. In an opinion by Justice Scalia, the majority deemed “t . . . eminently reasonable to conclude that” the CWA’s silence with regard to determining the best technology available “is meant to convey nothing more than a refusal to tie the agency’s hands as to whether cost-benefit analysis should be used, and if so to what degree.” Justice Stevens wrote a dissenting opinion, which was joined by Justice Souter and Ginsburg. In their view, because “Congress granted the EPA authority to use cost-benefit analysis in some contexts but not others” and intended “to control, not delegate, when cost-benefit analysis should be used,” Congress’s silence on this issue did not constitute “an invitation for the Agency to decide for itself which factors should govern its regulatory approach.”

Privacy and Information: Sotomayor has encountered a wide variety of privacy and access-to-information issues in her time on the Second Circuit, including cases involving the Freedom of Information Act and employer searches of employee workspaces.

In two cases involving requests under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Sotomayor wrote an opinion that declined to order the release of the requested information, explaining that she did not want to “unreasonably hamper agencies in their decision-making.” Thus, in Tigue v. DOJ, 312 F.3d 70 (2d Cir. 2002), the panel denied a tax attorney’s request for a memorandum written by a Deputy U.S. Attorney outlining the office’s opinions and policies regarding tax investigations, notwithstanding that the memorandum had been cited in a publicly released report. And in Wood v. FBI, 432 F.3d 78 (2d Cir. 2005), while acknowledging that FOIA exemptions should be construed “narrowly, resolving all doubts in favor of disclosure,” her opinion denied a reporter’s request for an FBI memorandum regarding local FBI agents accused of lying. She reasoned that the “unwarranted invasion of privacy” for the individuals whose names would be released outweighed the public interest in disclosing a government employee’s identity.

In a case involving privacy issues, Leventhal v. Knapek, 266 F.3d 64 (2001), Sotomayor wrote an opinion that rejected a Fourth Amendment challenge to a public employer’s search of an employee’s computer after the employee was accused of being late, coming to the office infrequently, and spending his free time discussing personal computers with his coworkers. Although she agreed that the employee had a “reasonable expectation of privacy in the contents of his office computer,” Sotomayor also cautioned that “workplace conditions can be such that an employee’s expectation of privacy…is diminished.” Here, she explained, the search was permissible because it could have revealed employee misconduct.

Second Amendment: Sotomayor was also a member of the panel that issued a per curiam opinion in another controversial case that may be headed for the Court next year. In Maloney v. Cuomo, 554 F.3d 56 (2009), the panel considered (as relevant here) a claim by a New York attorney that a state law prohibiting possession of a chuka stick (also known as nunchaku, a device used in martial arts consisting of two sticks joined by a rope or chain) violated his Second Amendment right to bear arms. The district court rejected the claim on the ground that the Second Amendment does not apply to the states. On appeal, the panel affirmed. Relying on the Supreme Court’s 1886 decision in Presser v. Illinois, it explained that it was “settled law . . . that the Second Amendment applies only to limitations the federal government seeks to impose” on the individual’s right to bear arms. The Supreme Court’s recent decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, the court continued, “does not invalidate this longstanding principle.” And while acknowledging the possibility that “Heller might be read to question the continuing validity of this principle,” the panel deemed itself bound to follow Presser because it “directly controls, leaving to the Supreme Court the prerogative of overruling its own decisions.” Maloney’s lawyers intend to file a petition for certiorari in late June.

Voting Rights: In Hayden v. Pataki, 449 F.3d 305 (2d Cir. 2006), the en banc Second Circuit rejected a challenge under the Voting Rights Act to a New York law denying convicted felons the right to vote. The plaintiffs in the case had argued that in light of the long history of discrimination, both in society and in the New York criminal justice system specifically, the state’s disqualification of felons constituted disqualification based on race. The majority reasoned that Congress did not intend the VRA to apply to state felon disenfranchisement laws. Moreover, extending the VRA to the state statutes would “alter the constitutional balance” between states and the federal government, and the VRA lacked a clear statement by Congress that it intended to upset that balance.

Sotomayor joined the main dissent from the en banc court’s decision but also wrote a short dissenting opinion of her own in which she opined that the issue was actually much simpler than the majority and concurring opinions would suggest: the VRA “applies to all ‘voting qualifications,’” and - in her view - the state law “disqualifies a group of people from voting.” “These two propositions,” she concluded, “should constitute the entirety of our analysis.” Rejecting what she regarded as the majority’s failure to grapple with the plain text of the statute, she emphasized that “[t]he duty of a judge is to follow the law, not to question its plain terms. I do not believe that Congress wishes us to disregard the plain language of any statute or to invent exceptions to the statutes it has created. . . . But even if Congress had doubts about the wisdom of subjecting felony disenfranchisement laws to the results test of § 2, I trust that Congress would prefer to make any needed changes itself, rather than have courts do so for it.”

International Law: Sotomayor wrote a dissenting opinion in Croll v. Croll, 229 F.3d 133 (2d Cir. 2000), which considered whether a ne exeat clause - that is, a clause prohibiting one parent from removing a child from the country without the other parent’s consent - constitutes a “right of custody” for purposes of the Hague Convention on International Child Abduction, thereby requiring the child’s return when the clause is violated. In holding that the ne exeat clause does not constitute a “right of custody,” the majority - among other things - declined to attribute any weight to contrary holdings by courts in other signatory nations, dismissing them as “few, scattered, [and] conflicting.” In her dissent, Judge Sotomayor concluded that the Convention’s drafters had in mind “a notably more expansive definition of custody rights” than the “parochial” definitions - from U.S. dictionaries - on which the majority relied. Moreover, she noted, “most foreign courts to consider the issue” had held, as she would have, that a ne exeat clause does indeed constitute a “right of custody.” Although certiorari was denied in the Croll case, the question is once again before the Supreme Court in No. 08-645, Abbott v. Abbott (disclosure: Howe & Russell and Akin Gump represent the petitioner in the case). In January 2009, the Court called for the views of the Solicitor General, who is expected to file her brief this month. In an interesting coincidence, one potential candidate for the Supreme Court (Solicitor General Elena Kagan) will have the opportunity to comment on the merits of the opinion of another (Judge Sotomayor).


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Tue 05/26/09 10:35 AM
Here's a piece on the CIA for you all.

The CIA's History of Bamboozling The Congress PDF Print E-mail
Written by Melvin A. Goodman
Friday, 22 May 2009 13:02

By Melvin A. Goodman

“Let me be clear about this,” CIA director Leon Panetta told his troops last week, “it was not CIA policy or practice to mislead Congress. That is against our laws and our values.”

Of course, Panetta is entitled to his opinions, but he cannot create his own facts. And, as a long-time member of the House of Representatives, he surely must know that there is a long and substantiated record of CIA deceit and dissembling to the congressional intelligence committees. Here are some highlights of that record.

In 1973, CIA director Richard Helms deceived the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, refusing to acknowledge the role of the CIA in overthrowing the elected government in Chile. Helms falsely testified that the CIA had not passed money to the opposition movement in Chile, and a grand jury was called to see if Helms should be indicted for perjury.

In 1977, the Justice Department brought a lesser charge against Helms, who pleaded nolo contendere; he was fined $2,000 and given a suspended two-year prison sentence. Helms went from the courthouse to the CIA where he was given a hero’s welcome and a gift of $2,000 to cover the fine. It was one of the saddest experiences in my 24 years at CIA.

In the new Ford administration, Secretary of State Kissinger, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, and White House chief of staff Cheney orchestrated phony intelligence for the Congress in order to get an endorsement for covert arms shipments to anti-government forces in Angola.

The CIA lied to Senator **** Clark, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who was a critic of the Agency’s illegal collaborations with the government of South Africa against Angola and Mozambique. Agency briefers exaggerated the classification of their materials so that Senate and House members could not publicize this information. Agency shields of secrecy and falsehood were extremely effective.

In the 1980s, CIA director William Casey and his deputy, Bob Gates, consistently lied to the congressional oversight committees about their knowledge of Iran-contra. Senator Daniel Moynihan (D-NY) believed that Casey and Gates were running a disinformation campaign against the Senate intelligence committee. Casey even managed to alienate Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), a pro-intelligence, conservative senator who typically walked through barbed wire for the CIA.

Gates’ lies on Iran-contra led to the Senate intelligence committee’s unwillingness to vote him out of the committee in 1985, when he was nominated to be CIA director by President Ronald Reagan. Gates was nominated again in 1991 and this time he was confirmed, but not before the hearings produced rhyme and verse on Gates’ tailoring of intelligence to fit the biases of Bill Casey.

Throughout the 1980s and the early 1990s, Aldrich Ames performed as the most destructive traitor in the history of the CIA, but CIA directors Gates, William Webster, and Jim Woolsey failed to inform the congressional oversight committees of the serious counter-intelligence problems that had been created.

In the late 1980s, the CIA concealed from the Congress that Saddam Hussein was diverting U.S. farm credits through an Atlanta bank to pay for nuclear technology and sophisticated weapons. The chairman of the Senate and House intelligence committees, Senator Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ) and Representative Dan Glickman (D-KS) respectively, were furious with the deception tactics of CIA briefers.

The greatest CIA disinformation campaign in the congress took place in 2002-2003, when CIA director George Tenet and his deputy, John McLaughlin, consistently lied about Iraqi training for al Qaeda members on chemical and biological weapons as well as the existence of mobile labs to manufacture such weapons.

Several days before the congressional vote on the authorization to use force, CIA senior analyst Paul Pillar delivered an unclassified memorandum to the Hill with a series of false charges about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Pillar’s memorandum and a national intelligence estimate on the same subject were also used to develop Secretary of State Colin Powell’s address to the United Nations in February 2003.

More recently, Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking minority member of the House intelligence committee, documented the dissembling of the CIA to cover-up the Agency’s involvement in a drug interdiction program in Peru that led to the loss of innocent lives. Hoekstra accused CIA director Tenet with misleading the Congress.

The CIA still has not addressed the serious procedural and institutional problems that were exposed in a report from the Office of the Inspector General on the Peru program, which concluded that Agency officials deliberately misled Congress, the White House, and the Justice Department.

In closing, Panetta emphasized that it was the CIA’s task to “tell it like it is, even if that’s not what people always want to hear. Keep it up. Our national security depends on it.”

If only that were the case in the 1980s, when the CIA hid from the congress the intelligence on the decline of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact or more recently when the CIA tailored intelligence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and Iraqi ties to al Qaeda in order to give the Bush administration an intelligence case to go to war.

Panetta should understand that there was far less dissembling to the congress 35 years ago when the Agency’s Office of General Counsel only had two attorneys, but with the addition of 63 attorneys over the next two decades there was greater politicization of Agency testimony and briefings.

Today there are nearly 200 lawyers with the Office of the General Counsel. Panetta should also understand that it is long past time for him to make sure that the Agency replaces the current acting directors of the Office of the Inspector General and the Office of the General Counsel in order to make sure that the CIA is indeed telling truth to power.

Melvin A. Goodman, a regular contributor to The Public Record, is senior fellow at the Center for International Policy and adjunct professor of government at Johns Hopkins University. He spent 42 years with the CIA, the National War College, and the U.S. Army. His latest book is Failure of Intelligence: The Decline and Fall of the CIA.

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Tue 05/26/09 09:53 AM

This will be an interesting confirmation. The judge after all was first nominated to the federal bench by Bush I. She was confirmed twice and even Orrin Hatch voted to confirm her to the appellate bench.

The republicans have been careful when it comes to Hispanic voters as well courting them by appealing to them on social issues and being fairly silent on immigration of late.

My prediction, pundits will howl and republican legislators will make the obligatory noise but will not try to block the confirmation. Of course there will be some "what could we do" statements to appease the base after the fact.

I am sure it would be a whole different ball game if she were replacing one of the courts more right leaning justices.

Here's a piece from the ABA Journal regarding possible lines of attack.

Supreme Court Nominations
The Four Likely Lines of Attack Against Sonia Sotomayor

Posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
By Debra Cassens Weiss

Ideologues are likely to advance four lines of attack against federal appeals judge Sonia Sotomayor when confirmation hearings are held, likely in the third week of July, according to a frequent Supreme Court litigator.

Obama is expected to nominate Sotomayor to the Supreme Court in a press conference this morning.

Mainstream Republicans are unlikely to risk political capital on opposing a nominee who would become the first Hispanic on the Supreme Court, litigator Thomas Goldstein writes on SCOTUSblog, the blog he created. But extreme public interest groups that depend on controversy to raise funds have an interest in caricaturing the nominee, he says.

Goldstein sees these possible lines of attack:

1) Sotomayor is not smart enough, a claim likely to be “stated obliquely and only on background.” The claim isn’t true, according to Goldstein. She graduated from the top of her class at Princeton and went on to attend Yale Law School. Her opinions are well-reasoned and clearly written. “Nothing suggests she isn’t the match of the other justices.”

2) Sotomayor is a judicial activist. Goldstein says SCOTUSblog’s review of Sotomayor’s judicial opinions shows her to be “on the left of this Supreme Court, just not the radical left.”

3) Judge Sotomayor is dismissive of positions with which she disagrees. This line of attack will include references to a speech in which Sotomayor said the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging” and to another speech in which she acknowledged that federal judges effectively make policy. Goldstein’s conclusion: “There just isn’t any remotely persuasive evidence that Judge Sotomayor acts lawlessly or anything of the sort.”

4) Sotomayor is too gruff and impersonable. Goldstein says his impression from her questioning at oral arguments is that Sotomayor, a tough questioner, is similar to Justice Antonin Scalia and, when he is engaged, the justice she will replace, David H. Souter.

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Tue 05/26/09 08:30 AM
Surprised no ones posted this yet! Maybe because they are busy waiting to be told what to think.

Okay...let the debate begin...

What do you all have to say about this nomination?

President Obama nominated a Hispanic woman to be Supreme Court justice today — the first Latino to be chosen for America's highest court.

Sonia Sotomayor, a 54-year-old appeals court judge, would succeed the retiring Justice David Souter if confirmed by the Senate — a near certainty given the Democratic majority in the chamber.

“An inspiring woman who I believe will make a great justice," Mr Obama said of Judge Sotomayor. “She’s lived out the American dream that brought her parents here many years ago.”

Judge Sotomayor describes herself as a "Newyorkrican" who grew up in a Bronx housing project after her parents moved to New York from Puerto Rico.

She had been nominated as a trial judge in New York by President Bush in 1991 in a deal with the state’s US senators. She was elevated to the appeals court in 1998 by President Clinton.

Judge Sotomayor paid tribute to America’s founding fathers, who she said inspired her to work within the laws they had created. “It would be a profound privilege for me to play a role in applying those principals,” she said. “I am deeply moved.”

The nominee came to national prominence when she helped to end a strike that halted the Major League Baseball season for almost a year in 1995.

She issued an order against baseball owners effectively ending the longest work stoppage in professional sporting history, which had led to the cancellation of the World Series for the first time in 90 years.

Mr Obama said that when she had diabetes diagnosed as a child “she was told he would have to scale back her dreams ... but no dream is beyond reach in the United States of America”.

The President said that he was looking for a judge who had “a common touch and a sense of compassion” as well as a great understanding of American law.

Judge Sotomayor would join Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg as the second woman on the current court.

Conservative groups were quick to denounce the choice. Wendy E. Long, counsel to the Judicial Confirmation Network, said: “Judge Sotomayor is a liberal judicial activist of the first order who thinks her own personal political agenda is more important than the law as written.

“She thinks that judges should dictate policy, and that one’s sex, race, and ethnicity ought to affect the decisions one renders from the bench.”

The network, which has links to the Swift Boat group that attacked the Vietnam war record of the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, began campaigning against Mr Obama’s selection even before it was announced.

Last week the organisation attacked Judge Sotomayor for ruling against a group of white firemen who had brought a reverse discrimination case. They also launched a series of adverts last week warning that Diane Wood, the favourite before today, punished anti-abortion demonstrators “under the same law that applies to mob bosses”.

Divorced with no children, and with a reputation as a workaholic, Judge Sotomayor often speaks of the courts as “the last refuge for the oppressed”.

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Mon 05/25/09 11:34 PM
I think some people just feel compelled (perhaps because they have passionate beliefs) to run things back to what they feel are core causes be it religion or lack of it, Bush, Obama, fluoride...whatever.

We had a poster here for a long time who tried to steer almost every thread to abortion. That poster did it badly too.

It happens on every forum.


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Mon 05/25/09 11:25 PM
Ah yes..pay your way to access to death and destruction right?

Oopps...not that people who can pay are potential terrorists.

We all know only people of color, non-Christians, foreigners, the poor unwashed and those "other" people are dangerous...hahaha

So, feel safer now?

Oh...here is something I find kind of entertaining. We have posters here who think that restrictions on travel, searches, wiretapping and all that are good stuff to ensure our freedom ( a false trade but oh well) but who decry things like universal health care because it scares them..you know the government having all that control over your choices...

HA HA HA

Oh well...that's another thread.

Watch out for those sleeper cells! They might be able to fly first class.



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Mon 05/25/09 10:33 PM
If I am in charge in Iran.

You bet your ass I want nukes.

/points to North Korea and walks away whistling

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Mon 05/25/09 10:31 PM
Ideally the parents should sit these kids down and hash it out.

Personal responsibility?

I say impress the kids with what it really means. Accountability!

I am not in the everybody be nice school of thought. It's good to be able to saddle up and ride it rough. Reality is like that.

Life is hard, people are greedy and mean, people do awful and unreasonable things, violence both necessary and unnecessary happens. That's the world...

As I said here more than once...a wrong doing is not the same as a crime.

These little girls, sophisticated enough to make and post a video like that, are no innocent babes in the wood. Their video, absent an indication that it is satire or a condemnation of violence, is really pretty awful.

I am all about free speech but that line has been discussed here before.

Were it my child there would be no question but I am not going to Monday morning parent.

Oh..there is some value in bullying...it makes you strong sometimes...but...these kids deserve consequence. The school? Watch and maybe enhance protections but they really have no business enforcing discipline here.


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Mon 05/25/09 02:51 PM
Here are some kids that need a sound beating.

Okay, maybe not a beating but...if it were my kid they would be enjoying the simple life, free from electronics and brimming with manual labor.

Hateful little witches need to be schooled.

I do not think it is the place of the public school system to discipline in this matter however and I have to say I think that them becoming involved in this matter is worrying. The video was not made on school grounds or during the school day and really isn't any of the school systems business.

Were I the parent of this child and I contacted another parent who dismissed my concerns...well all bets would be off. Revenge you know is best served up cold. *evil grin*

Video including some footage of the cartoon the children made and of the interview with the child and her mother available at the link below.

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Girls post online cartoon on how to kill classmate

10:54 PM PDT on Thursday, May 21, 2009

By ELISA HAHN / KING 5 News

Video: Young girls post cartoon online on how to kill classmate
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SPANAWAY, Wash. - A Pierce County mother wants some answers after some of her daughter's classmates posted a video online, showing several ways to kill the girl.

The video is a cartoon that was made off school grounds by a group of young girls aged 11 and 12.

That video made the rounds on YouTube.

The cartoon is called "Top Six Ways to Kill Piper" and it includes depictions of give girls shooting her, making her commit suicide, poisoning her, and even pushing her off a cliff.

"I was horrified," said Beth Smith, Piper's mother.

Beth Smith says the cartoon targeting her daughter was posted on YouTube to a Hannah Montana song called "True Friend."

Piper is a 6th grader at Elk Plain School of Choice and the girls who made the video attend the same school.

"It really hurt my feelings," said Piper. "If someone hates me that much, to make a video about me, it makes me feel really bad."

Beth Smith contacted the parents of the girls who made the video. Some were shocked, others were dismissive.

"One guy blew it off and said he was making dinner," she said.

The school district says because of privacy rules it can't say how the girls were disciplined.

"Since then the students have expressed their remorse about this incident and we do believe that Elk Plain has been and will continue to be a safe place for students to learn," said Krista Carlson, Bethel School District.

Not knowing what happened leaves Smith frustrated because she wants to know if her daughter is safe.

KING

Elk Plain School of Choice

"My heart aches," she said. "I fear for her safety."

Piper said some of the girls called to apologize.

A report was filed with the sheriff's department.

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_052109WAB-cartoon-kill-piper-KC.49c70d9.html

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Mon 05/25/09 02:38 PM
Thanks for the local info malexand.

I think if you follow the link you will see some pictures of the reflectors he alleges damaged his car.

What followed was certainly intimidation and is pretty sickening in my opinion.

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