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Topic: 1984
Lynann's photo
Sun 05/17/09 07:52 AM
"War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength" - Watch 1984 online, free.

For those of you here on the politics forum who don't want to or who challenged by reading I give you this gift.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-5464625623984168940

prisoner's photo
Sun 05/17/09 07:57 AM
:banana: i love the Michael Radford version but read the book first. be seeing you

Lynann's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:03 AM
Back in the dark ages when I went to school this book was required reading.

To bad it isn't anymore.

prisoner's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:31 AM

Back in the dark ages when I went to school this book was required reading.

To bad it isn't anymore.
:banana: especialy with The Current Administration engaging in NewSpeak. be seeing you

Lynann's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:37 AM
Edited by Lynann on Sun 05/17/09 08:38 AM
HA HA HA

Ya know Prisoner...you are a poster I occasional respect.

Nice reply...two points.

prisoner's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:42 AM

HA HA HA

Ya know Prisoner...you are a poster I occasional respect.

Nice reply...two points.
:banana: thanx,wanna get a drink sometime? be seeing you

Lynann's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:49 AM
Well...I am sure the conversation would be interesting and fun.


prisoner's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:37 AM

Well...I am sure the conversation would be interesting and fun.


:banana: drop me a line,sometime be seeing you

ThomasJB's photo
Sun 05/17/09 07:29 PM
We have been moving more towards Big Brother every year for many years now. While I'm not a supporter of Obama, he is just the current of a long list of presidents and politicians who apparently feel we have to many liberties and sees it has as their job to fix that.

damnitscloudy's photo
Sun 05/17/09 07:59 PM
The movie confused the hell out of me. But I watched it at 2am on a school night so that might be why my brain was not attending. laugh

Atleast Fahrenheit 451 is required in my school.

Oh and about that, I read that book and wrote a paper for extra credit (its only a must read in advanced classes, not in regular class) and I got an A on it, AND NOBODY ELSE IN ADVANCED BEAT ME!

So tell me my diploma is worthless in my face rant rant

ThomasJB's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:12 PM
Reading has gone downhill over the last three or four decades. I have met current children who are still struggling with **** and Jane books in second and third grade. I was reading Steven King by fourth grade. Fire Starter was the first chapter book I ever read. More and more in recent years we hear tales of the classic being pulled from school book shelves because someone is offend by something in it. The American school system is by and large broken.

creativesoul's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:00 PM
Is it broken... or broken by design?

ThomasJB's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:05 PM

Is it broken... or broken by design?


You gotta wonder. Dumb uneducated masses do not put up as much of fight when their rights are stolen as educated and observant citizens do.

JosefQuewl's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:10 PM


Is it broken... or broken by design?


You gotta wonder. Dumb uneducated masses do not put up as much of fight when their rights are stolen as educated and observant citizens do.


AIG is largest 401K provider and insurer of teacher unions!!!

creativesoul's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:26 PM
Edited by creativesoul on Sun 05/17/09 09:41 PM
I am not sure if I would apply intentionally broken to the situation at hand... that presupposes a huge and complex form of organized and secretive intent.

Broken by design meaning the design itself is the cause of the issues surrounding the educational system.

The amount of federal money spent per student per year compared to the amount of federal money spent per prisoner per year highlights a major problem in our system.

Edit with a quick search...

Average per-student spending in public school. In 2004–2005 (the most recent school year for which data are available), an average of $9,266 was spent per pupil in American public schools.


The average annual operating cost per State inmate in 2001 was $22,650, or $62.05 per day.


noway

creativesoul's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:46 PM
So we spend over twice as much money housing those who break the law, rather than spending it for the purpose of teaching one what it takes to be a productive member of society?

Granted there are some who are just criminal minded types and there is not much that a public school system can do about it, but is this difference in allocated funding not indicative of the fact that we are not doing something right, while we have the chance... during the formative years?

Zapchaser's photo
Sun 05/17/09 10:01 PM

So we spend over twice as much money housing those who break the law, rather than spending it for the purpose of teaching one what it takes to be a productive member of society?

Granted there are some who are just criminal minded types and there is not much that a public school system can do about it, but is this difference in allocated funding not indicative of the fact that we are not doing something right, while we have the chance... during the formative years?
Nanny state? huh Where is the responsibility of parents to teach their children to be productive members of society? The public school system has no business doing anything other than teaching students what it takes to survive in the real world, sans the socialist indoctrination which they seem to feel is their responsibility. Formative years? Where is the parental responsibility?

creativesoul's photo
Sun 05/17/09 10:44 PM
Exposure to a new way of thinking is required in order for a child of criminally minded parents to become something other than their parents.

Nanny state?

It is clear that we are nanny to the prison population already, like it or not. We can reduce this by investing more effort into the developmental stages of children during those formative years when it can make a difference.

It is obvious that some parents are not doing what it takes, Would it be more reasonable to continue to fund their unproductive after it is too late(in prison) or before?

That is the reality.

Winx's photo
Sun 05/17/09 10:54 PM

Reading has gone downhill over the last three or four decades. I have met current children who are still struggling with **** and Jane books in second and third grade. I was reading Steven King by fourth grade. Fire Starter was the first chapter book I ever read. More and more in recent years we hear tales of the classic being pulled from school book shelves because someone is offend by something in it. The American school system is by and large broken.


Still struggling with D$ck and Jane in 2nd and third grade?! I haven't seen anything close to that in my child's school. Also, my child's school didn't use D$ck and Jane. They taught phonics, btw.

creativesoul's photo
Sun 05/17/09 11:04 PM
See Spot get the ball. Run spot, run!

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