Thats what I was saying as for the cheating thing. As fior the above quote it doesn't really matter to me either way. With the exception of selling our house, to me the relationship is over. I have no hurt feeling about it any more. Those ended months ago. I am still angry how ever at the lieing and making me look bad to people I know just to defend her mistakes.

The only reason I brought this up was because at a family fuction last week there was a discussion about this. Part of them on one side part on the other. I just thought it was a good topic to get some ideas out of members here. May also give you some thought as to what you consider cheating. Myself I never did give much thought till it happened. When you mind is all that screwed up its a hard topic to think about!

BTW now that we have split ways I am happpier then ever!

Ok what kind of crap? I seem to like this community.

I will describe a situation that happened to me almost a year ago. This ultimatly lead to the ending of a 16 year relationship.

First let me explain my state of mind as I believe it was a key player in decisions made on my ex's side of the equation.

Several years ago I had a sever back injury. I moved through it. How ever 4 years ago I reinjured the alread weak area of my back. Because I could not afford to take time off work where heavy lifting and long hours are required (70 - 90 hrs a week). I had to take strong pain killers and relaxants just to be able to operate som what effectivly. Well this put me in a drug induced 'low' where I was anti social, and just plain blah. Also started bit of depression. My ex would constatntly nag at me but would never help me, she would also ***** if I had to take a day off work because I just couldn't move.

Now what happened. This part is going to get very graphic so if you don't like stop reading now. I came home from work early, my ex was in the computer room texting someone, I leaned in for a kiss she pulled back and hid her phone from me while she finished texting. This got me curious. The next day she left her phone in the bathroom so i looked (I know invation of privacy, but what I read I don't care about privacy at that point), she texted to a guy from her work "My **** is throbbing thinking of you". I lost it for 3 days. After I calmed down and talked to her She convinced me nothing aver actually happened physically. So thinking that well its not cheating, maybe we can fix our relationship.

I (yes I not we) worked on the relationship, I seen a therapyst for the depression, found a non-narcotic to relieve the pain and have now pretty much got back to normal. I paid more attention to her, helped out around the house in areas I was lacking. Basically brought me back out of a hole I was in. I even took her on vacation to the Dominican Republic.

All that work came to a crashing halt when I found out about 6 months after the first read email that she was telling peple at work she cheated because I beat her (which is total BS), she swears she never said that but I heard it from someone first and who heard her say it and I trust.

At this point one of the original things kept comeing back and haunting me. and this is where you ideas come inot play.

1. She had been exchanging messages as bad or worse between johnny for 3 - 4 months before I found out. Would you (as I do now) consider this cheating?

I say yes because she is going out of the relationship for direct sexual pleasure, albeit maybe not physical but more then just porn on the internet. and she intesionally kept doing it for so long.

2. Is this worse then just getting drunk and screwing some guy?

I say yes. The one night stand is a mistake. One that should not be done I will give you, but a mistake. I think if this had happened I could have worked through it. But to keep talking with someone for so long the way they were intensionally hidding it from me and his wife. Oh yea I forgot to mention he is married and has three young children.

So once the head ache is gone from all the reading post your comments. Do you agree it should be considered cheating or not?

A freind of mine got one last year new. She is about 5'5" and we where able to lower it enough with the Pre-load. Best thing to do would be go to a dealer. get an idea with what they have. Then go used if you want. At least they will give you an idea as to the Pre-load setting.

Yup, my mother. LMAO 35 years old and I still get the hug and kiss before I leave my parents house. Usually school lesson from my mom and the sermon from my Dad when I get there. I'm always in trouble. I actally got in trouble for not riding my motorcycle to their house. WTF my mother forbid me from getting another one. LMAO I will never understand woman or parents.

I am thinking I want to take my bike out for a ride, but then I remember I have to get up for work tomorrow. ugggg. Oh well theres always the weekend.

Get better soon! Hope the news is not bad news!

I've got a 2004 GS500 sport/touring. I love to ride so much I can be on the thing for 10 hours a day. In the past 3 months I put almost 3000km's (approx 1865 miles) on it! And thats local driving around. When I go places on the bike I like to take the long way. Bro it all depends on what you are confortable with.

The Ninja 250 is not a bad bike to start with. As for the right leg. You control the rear brake with that one. Most movment is from the ankle. I have been riding off and on for 16 years and the best advice I can give you is to take the M1 training coarse at the local facility. Here its our college. Should cost about 350. you will need your own helmet, gauntlet gloves (wrist protection), sturdy boots that cover your ankles and a strong coat. They should supply the bike and fuel. After the coarse you will know if your up to riding.

A used Ninja 250 could run anyware from $800 to $3000 depending on the year and condition.

Most southern major city here. Windsor, Ontario. Or as people from michigan call it. Another suberb of Detroit.

Depends on the aspect of Las Vegas are you looking for? A big gambling town with lots of casino's, I don't think so. Maybe be a little more specific as to what you are looking for, Windsor, Ontario where I am we have a petty good (not too extravegant) casino owned by Ceasars. Vancouver has a good one and Niagra Falls.