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Then one last question that you can answer if you wish or keep to yourself. Would your God be happy to see you attack people who also believe in him simply because they don't believe in the same manner that you do? Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone. Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? ![]() If I know the truth, what else matters? I'm a pretty outspoken person, and the people I chose as friends and associates know who I am, they know what I am about, and WHEN people try to slander me or trash talk me...which happens alot to people who are outspoken like myself. Those people who are loyal to me and I am loyal back, know better, so no arguement is needed. Those who change their mind about me based on what others have said, I don't want as friends anyway. OK, thanks for answering. ![]() |
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Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone. Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? ![]() ![]() LOL..geez..what attitude???? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Then one last question that you can answer if you wish or keep to yourself. Would your God be happy to see you attack people who also believe in him simply because they don't believe in the same manner that you do? Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone. Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? ![]() |
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It's as if someone were saying something that your mother said, but you know that's not what she said and it was a subject that mattered to you. Would you not correct it and at least let it be known what was really said? Yes, but something my mother said, and a book that was written a gazillion years ago are 2 different things. I'm not doubting the bible, or it's words, but the connotations of words change over time. So if someone wants to say Murder or Kill... who cares? We have no or little idea of what those words meant then and the connotations that they once held. If I say that I am the embodyment of the Goddess, do I believe that the Goddess lives in me and "posses" me...No I mean that I try to live my life everyday to honor her. That although I am human I try to live a good clean life, and do good things for myself and for others...but the words technically mean "She lives in me" All I am saying is, to enterprit a book written by God, threw man is a bit hard since we did not live in that time. So to allow for slack in the enterpritation should be allowable. I understand your point. But just as something your mother says is very important to you, same can be said about something like the Bible to its followers. So the street runs both ways ![]() And when it comes to definition, certain things actually do matter. To kill something and to murder something..well thats actually a HUGE difference. It's really not a small matter as a whole. Again, I understand what you are saying and not trying to argue with you...just trying to relate this side as well. ![]() |
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I did not quote - thou shalt not kill. The quotes are in quotation marks, tyvm. I used a commonly known saying instead of a direct quote for the sake of recognition. If this is your big issue with me then I'm really at a loss here. ![]() That would be a point to look at, because I do NOT have any big issue with you..or even an issue at all really. Just as you misinterprited my post as being an "attack", so can many, as some have, take things just like the "thou shalt not kill" into a form it was not meant to be....and I was only trying to clarify so that others might get clarification as well. ![]() |
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Was that to me Lily?? YES. The bible gets interpreted a million idfferent ways...who's right, and who's wrong..WHO CARES... Thank the Goddess I'm a dirty Pagan.... ![]() OK, just checking. And no I do not care what they believe. But just like a point here, when the person said in the Bible it says "thou shalt not KILL". Well thats just not true. And its also my basis of belief. So I am not arguing nor trying to change what they believe, but can't sit back and have bad interpritation for readers. Because what the Bible (or anything for that matter) says does matter..what they think is something different. It's as if someone were saying something that your mother said, but you know that's not what she said and it was a subject that mattered to you. Would you not correct it and at least let it be known what was really said? I think you would..but maybe I'm worng. Like there I was just clarifying what is really there in the Bible, not what they believed in. ![]() |
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I've not attacked you for your opinion or put down your core beliefs. Is it too much to expect the same courtesy? But thank you for tuning my miserable little existence around with your superior wisdom. ![]() LOl..oh attacked because you were corrected?? You can't even get the scripture right. "thou shalt not KILL" ?? OK, right! Nice point! ![]() WHY DO YOU CARE WHAT HE BELIVES???? Was that to me Lily?? |
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better for what? Your arrogance? Limit your posts to directing your course of action, do not attempt to tell me what I should, and should not do. You have zero authority over me, do not pretend for one moment that you can dictate my actions sir LOL, hey YOU were the one who said you weren't going to reply to my posts..read back in the thread. Wow! I was just agreeing. Sorry if you FEEL that way. ![]() |
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I've not attacked you for your opinion or put down your core beliefs. Is it too much to expect the same courtesy? But thank you for tuning my miserable little existence around with your superior wisdom. ![]() LOl..oh attacked because you were corrected?? You can't even get the scripture right. "thou shalt not KILL" ?? OK, right! Nice point! ![]() |
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a hit between the eyes to wake them up? Because I didn't capitalize "GOD". It was a petty attempt at an insult, which is what most people on this forums resort to when you try to debate something with them. They are insulted by the fact that you do not carry the same opinion, so they insult back. You can believe in all the et life you want, as well as animals with immortal souls all you want. I do not knock you for your opinion, yet you resort to insults, in whatever fashion you see appropriate. This is not being blunt, it is being disrespectful, most of all to yourself. It does not serve to drive home your point, but rather minimize it. Umm, Lily helped me to realize something (thanks Lily) so might be better if you just stick to not replying to my posts and we just leave it at that. ![]() |
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Though off topic, I have another opinion...that's not very nice. ![]() (to adventurousone) Sorry if it's not deamed "nice". But I am honest and direct. If it's got to hit someone between the eyes to wake them up and make them actually use thier God given brain...well then so be it. But be assured, I'm NOT here trying to be "mean". Just direct and to the point. ![]() When it comes to your own personal religion, or belife system...it's better to just let people have their thoughts, and unless they degrade you for yours...WHO CARES??? Is this another case of "Don't post here, unless you agree with me?" Why can't someone share their opinion about it without someone getting pissed off? I don't care if you worship the chipmunk in your back yard, it is of no consequence to me. Share your views on this...SUPER. But to argue with someone about theirs is ludacris. You are correct. Just clarifying the actual meaning behind certain scripture in the Bible that they broght up. Words do actually have meaning and weight and should not be used lightly in certain cases. Especially when it could mislead others in that religion (which in this case is mine as well). ![]() Peace. ![]() |
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AdventurousOne
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Sun 04/20/08 12:55 PM
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Though off topic, I have another opinion...that's not very nice. ![]() (to adventurousone) Sorry if it's not deamed "nice". But I am honest and direct. If it's got to hit someone between the eyes to wake them up and make them actually use thier God given brain...well then so be it. But be assured, I'm NOT here trying to be "mean". Just direct and to the point. ![]() You get a lot further in life by going in one direction instead of in circles. ![]() |
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the laws were bestowed upon man, not upon god by god. Now I am breaking my own rule. Animals are here to serve man, not the other way around. While there are scriptures to point to god making animals available to us in heaven, it is not due to them having an immortal soul. God would not have given the servant of man an immortal soul for us to use as dining material. Right..and there is no other intelligent life forms on anything else in the universe. God (notice I spell "God" with the capital "G" .. or were you never taught that respect?) made so much we as humans have absolutely no clue about. Simply, as humans we don't know jack about "God". So to attempt to state such things from such an ignorant standpoint (that's not a flame, I use ignorant in its true form..simply not knowing) is foolish at best. Not ALL animals are the same. Some do serve as a food source, but others do not. ![]() LOL..what part of your insecurities hit on that one? I put "as humans, WE" meaning MYSELF INCLUDED! The Bible should say "oh ye of little narrow minds..please get a clue" ... Then MAYBE you'd believe it? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Nothing but a bunch of pup's running with their tail's between their leg's. Where's the real men to step up and give us some amswer's? I hate to break this too you, but that thing hanging down to my knees is NOT a tail. Just to clarify. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() (sorry, could not resist that open shot) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hey..you really do know me!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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the laws were bestowed upon man, not upon god by god. Now I am breaking my own rule. Animals are here to serve man, not the other way around. While there are scriptures to point to god making animals available to us in heaven, it is not due to them having an immortal soul. God would not have given the servant of man an immortal soul for us to use as dining material. Right..and there is no other intelligent life forms on anything else in the universe. God (notice I spell "God" with the capital "G" .. or were you never taught that respect?) made so much we as humans have absolutely no clue about. Simply, as humans we don't know jack about "God". So to attempt to state such things from such an ignorant standpoint (that's not a flame, I use ignorant in its true form..simply not knowing) is foolish at best. Not ALL animals are the same. Some do serve as a food source, but others do not. ![]() |
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Nothing but a bunch of pup's running with their tail's between their leg's. Where's the real men to step up and give us some amswer's? I hate to break this too you, but that thing hanging down to my knees is NOT a tail. Just to clarify. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() (sorry, could not resist that open shot) ![]() |
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be glad that he was honest with you. give him some time maybe he will eventually be willing to be more. AND think he's enjoying playing the game. If you want him, play along. This is what I am referring to. This is the complexity of women's thoughts. Nothing at all wrong with it, it's how women are. I'm just trying to point this out to the men, because guys are usually very "simple" thinkers. Women refer to whats gong on here as a "game" and "maybe he will eventually want to be more". To be honest, you are setting your own fall. You are "wishing", "hoping", whatever term you want to use...but then your "dream" gets smashed by "reality". And like in this case, the guy seemingly has already stated his position..so if you chase and get hurt, don;t blame the guy. ![]() |
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Edited by
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I have no opinion of anyone elses beliefs on the subject. I only know what I believe and why. The eternal soul was a gift bestowed upon man when God made us in his image. Animals were NOT made in the image of God or given the gift of eternal life. Genesis 1:27 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. God lays out the menu (I’ve avoided individual entrees here, as it’s quite lengthy) instructing mankind in their own survival. Leviticus 11:2 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth." I find it hard to believe that God would instruct us to use other eternal souls as a food source, when he clearly protects the everlasting spirit in his commandment – Thou shalt not kill. That would be cannibalism of the soul. If that’s not enough to explain why someone following the word of the Bible does not believe that animals have souls nor ascend to heaven with us, then this one should illuminate things nicely. Ecclesiastes 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?" I love my pets like nobody's business, but for me the cold hard fact is, I will see none of them in heaven...if I can even manage a reservation for myself. ![]() Now do yourself a BIG favor..put ALL of what you listed into the actual CONTEXT it was ALL said. See if any lights pop on. ![]() ps..just a qwik little HINT..the Bible does NOT say "thou shalt not KILL".. it was written you should not MURDER (kill without just cause) HUGE difference. If God had written "thou shalt not KILL", He would be breaking His own laws. ![]() |
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Take notice guys...
These are REAL WOMEN's thinking patterns! LEARN while you can! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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friggin' yankees. They can afford all the big names. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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