the molecular makeup of our beings allow us to exist as we perceive existence. problem with that is we perceive ourselves wrongly.We believe we are more than what we are and that gives us some sort of one upmanship over all else. the highest form is really no more than the lowest form, we are not brilliant we are stupid. everything we have accomplished with the state of mind we have held for centuries, from the first records of written history or myth etc, show us or should do so, just how stupid we are. we have learned nothing as it should be, with all our own patting ourselves on the backs for inventing or improving mans existence, our morals [that which we live sociably by] has not improved 1 iota.

We could be better in that sense, but we won't be, till the problem comes to a head and then there will be little and few to do so if any.

LOL, i don't believe in prayer at all. Yes i did at one point for sure, but time has a way of seeing to it that that what you have done is useless, what will be will be. Prayers are neither heard or answered - meaning - it is as most a game of percentages that we give credence to buy uplifting times when it seems to be the case and downplay those times it is not. rarely do i hear someone talk of unanswered prayer, only those they believe are answered, you could pray to any imaginary figure and get like results.

I'm not a supreme being, I'm a human being, no more no less, just as flawed as everyone else.

I want to share the fact that this is it!! there is nothing that you will have or gain or experience after you leave this vibratory existence.

That makes me calm, it takes away from the not knowing or proverbial doubts of where i stand in the scheme of things. this leads to "enjoying life" to the fullest extent i am able. It also leads to not having to play "psycho to the Psychiatrist, as were doing now, lol.

My apologies, had to go with my son to the store, just got back.


I believe that as the universe had reached a point where there was enough material to combine to make the first atoms that formed by electromagnetic attractions, such as are found in chemistry, that this was the beginning of what was to become higher forms of both life and eventually cognizant life.

First the most basic atoms of gas like hydrogen formed with carbon, with all the others followed suit. this lead to large areas of mass that again became the stars[suns] and the planets among all else. Why we have the un-countable variations of both of these along with everything else, shows me that it was random, not designed. The similarity being only in that the like substances made up all that is. [as far as we know] I keep the door open on that because of many materials that have been discovered since modern science has been around. Though as of now i don't think suggestions of silica life form make any sense.

I believe that like we see and can understand from nature that the causation that wrought this, could well be just like a lac bug or others where the dye/resin/and wax are made in varying levels through out the process, a dim view of a infinite scale of observance, but used as example only. If this holds true then that would mean that larger amounts of substance would or could have developed closer together and formed the denser attributes of all we can see. leaving much room for more open areas. Those areas that did attain denser material,such as the galaxies and within them the solar systems, continued to gather more density, in our case, the hydrogen/oxygen levels capable of producing water.

from here i can answer your question as such, nothing is inanimate[ remeber the rock?] everything vibrates, thus everything has life [movement] with movement comes the ability to connect, when connected higher substances are formed, when they have formed in such away as to be more alive [if that is what your reffering to] to be able to form a substance that has the ability to recognize it is alive then that is the point of which your asking of.

The "demarkation" of such if your reffering to ourselves will never be known. what is needed to know is that it does do so. Past that, all is speculation.

LOL, is that what you get from what i write, lol

I think mankind is great, it is mankind's stupidity, that flaws it. I see no way to escape such as i am human also. But it does not mean i have to participate in mankind's down fall any more than necessary to live. You say i "over-think" to me there is no such thing, unless due to that thinking you find answer's that then require no more thinking upon such as you have found. That may be the end of it unless others can bring to light something that starts you back to re-thinking upon it more at some future point. :)

I'm not out to defend my points here, I'm only offering what i see as the case in point. If anyone can show me flawed thinking or concept, of course i will take that into consideration,but it has to be other than mystical or religious or other types of objections to what i'm stating. I have no room for man thinking he is anymore than man, i have inside knowledge of man, i am one, that is the only true knowledge anyone can ever really have.

It would be a place full of life untouched by mankind, that would be amazing.

What i have found is what i believe to be the most fundamental truth that is available to believe. It is when others complicate it that it appears to be more than the simplest answer. It's existence, outside of making all other existence possible,By "chance", is for no other than to do so, period. It [waves/energy/particles/ and any other we may not know at present} have none of the attributes necessary to be a cognigant being that either loves,hates; thinks;talks;reasons;sorrows;or anything else given to the human state. That is all our doing. Like nature, it acts as it will, only on a much greater infinite level.

It's not something you "tap" into, as many may think or believe, just being is all that's necessary to be part of it. whether your an incredibly wise rock [humor] or a stupid human [serious] makes no difference.

I believe in it's simplicity, that is what i wrote of, lol. I wish we were all stones, the world would be a better place.

LOL - that which is, would exist if no one could think or talk or express. It does not need a mouthpiece, nor recognition. It exist merely because it does. If only particles and waves existed, which i think is the case, and had not formed anything else, it would still exist,Its not incumbent on the needs of anything. your understanding of who you are, is simply your understanding. It, has no reson to even know of divinity or other god like qualities, it's not a god.

I can discuss it from the viewpoint of it's normal meaning, which is all anyone can do, if your meaning is different than the normal, then we can't discuss it, very true. "i' "i" 'I', everything you state is self centered, you cop an attitude or guise that you beleive something is infinite and pertains to all, but then complicate it with personal statements? everyone can think or care or anything else, many things can not, still all are part of the whole. If you really beleive your part of the whole, then stop using personal pronouns.

I don't believe in divinity JB, "source" doesn't think, nor does it care what anything that has come about, including us, thinks. Devinity, self, ego, mean nothing to it one way or the other, if you can even call source "it", if so only in the most broad terms would it stand as something more than just matter/energy/waves/particles.

the "devine self" is contradictory, you can not say that devinity is the esesnece of existance and connect it with "self" it can not be or include everything and self at the same time and because of this, no one can ever say "they" are devine. At most you only share in divinity, which i don't beleive is the correct understanding of what is. Leave the self out of your equation and your thinking is correct as to "all". Apply it to yourself and you become something more than everything else, which your not. :)

"devinity" "self"? you can only "share" in devinity, you can not claim it as being meant for just self. What part of all that is would even claim or think itself to be devine except man? that which id devine gives no thought to being such, that is ego, not devinity.

No, you are part of exsistance, you are not capable of being existance as a whole on your own, therfore you can only be "part" of god or the wave particle infinity.

Very true, but they do have tempers much like latina's do, don't get them mad!!! lol

Ah, but right and wrong only exist in ones mind. and it only exist in ones mind because society has placed ti there. It is not inherent to mankind, we are not born with such perceptions.

Ah... existence = god, interesting, so in other words existance is all you need to be god, but you cant be god by or of yourself, you need all that exist to be such correct??

Well since you claim that there "is no god" I am assuming that you have no concept of that term. If you have no concept of that term, then how could you have any thoughts about it at all?

So if I say that I am god, how can you know or believe that I am not?

wrong i have a good concept of what others think god is, how could i not if i say there is not one? What i'm asking is if you say your god what is making you special enough to think so? Because you exist? hm.... evrything exist that we can percieve with our senses and many things we can't. Is then everything god's? i state it this way becuae your saying "you" an individual are a god, which would indicate that all individuals or individual things would then be also?

you don't need quantum mechanics to know this :)