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Sun 10/05/08 08:03 PM
Edited by Mentork on Sun 10/05/08 08:04 PM
The only thing is he himself NEVER claimed to be anything but a man, at least to my knowledge.


He had better things to do with his time on earth then write a 10 page essay how how he created the universe.

Well if you are just going to say its god and thats that!


I'm glad you can admit defeat ^_^

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Sun 10/05/08 07:58 PM
Well hello to you my lovely ladies...

But more importantly, how's my profile?

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Sun 10/05/08 07:56 PM
And the table leg

Yep


"In the beginning, Confucius created the universe."

where do you get this from?

Someone had do do it, and Confucius is the only guy around with super powers.

but i cannot expect others to believe it with out evidence of some kind to show why or how he is a god.


I don't know about that, people will believe some crazy crap ;)

What proof did Muhammad have other then his own word?

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Sun 10/05/08 07:47 PM
I'll take 1a

"the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshiped as creator and ruler of the universe"

I believe that he is a being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness. And I worship him as the creator and ruler of the universe, therefore, he is worshiped as the creator of the universe, therefore, he is a god.

Just like the Flying Spaghetti Monster, is a god, and just like Jehovah is a god.

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Sun 10/05/08 07:31 PM
Edited by Mentork on Sun 10/05/08 07:32 PM
In the beginning, Confucius created the universe.

That's how it happened...

The definition of god doesn't require him to actually do it, just for someone, somewhere, to believe he did it, and here i am, therefore, Confucius is a god.

except to you - which i guess is what you mean


It seems we have come to an understanding.

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Sun 10/05/08 07:17 PM
I got a beard, how manly is that?

Do i want control? Hell yah, but it's your job to defend yourself, if you are weak then i fully intend to own you when it's over, if you are strong then surely we can work something out ^_^

I see beauty in both types of people...

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Sun 10/05/08 07:06 PM
"the principle ruling over all as eternal spirit



I would only disagree with your concept of god.


The definition you used was perfectly acceptable.


Pick

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Sun 10/05/08 06:57 PM
Edited by Mentork on Sun 10/05/08 06:58 PM
Thats fine. I would only disagree with your concept of god. I would define Confucius as a philosopher. A human male. Not a deity. That does not effect your beliefs. You have simply been unconvincing.


Well it would be allot easier if you would reveal you definition of god...

By the way, you're a horrible debater.

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Sun 10/05/08 06:54 PM
I don't wanna behave, its no fun to behave, not gonna behave


i got bad news... you're not the one for me X_X

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Sun 10/05/08 06:52 PM
Im assuming I am only responding to the last paragraph? I in fact went down the list of your copy and pasted definition of god and compared with the websites you have provided thus far and the information about who Confucius was, no he is not a god. Can you show me how he is a god?


I did, i did over and over.

I worship him as "the principle ruling over all as eternal spirit"

That's me, I do that, not a big club. But, he is still my god.

My god.

I believe that.

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Sun 10/05/08 06:37 PM
Edited by Mentork on Sun 10/05/08 06:38 PM
So your argument is that YOU define him as god, neiner neiner? Well thats what you have been saying since this pointless discussion began.


me
Well my god is Confucius


you

Confucius is not a god.


me
well we got everything we need to be our own religion


you
I asked if Confucius was considered a god.


me
Define god


You


Me

ok then lets use marrain websters definitions


you
So your argument is that YOU define him as god, neiner neiner?


That was my statement from the very beginning.

Could you disprove him under the definitions i gave?

No

So, under my definitions, he is a god.

You have another definition of god (that you are apparently ashamed of) that is ok, i never said he was your god, i said "my god is Confucius". You asked me to prove that Confucius was my god, and i did, and now you try to belittle me by going "well oh yah by your standards he is." But that was exactly my beginning statement, by my standards he is a god.

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Sun 10/05/08 06:13 PM
Well lets see. He is not worshiped as creator and ruler of the universe.


He is by me, my very existence disproves your point.

I did not see on any of the web sites you provided where he was considered the principle ruling over all as eternal spirit or infinite mind


Once more, he is by me, if you really need a website to tell you what i believe, then i could update my blog for you.

He is not defined as a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship,

I am prepared to define him as such.

He might have been considered a person or thing of supreme value to some people but so would any philosopher. That does not elevate him to the status of god that I am familiar with.


Apparently you are not familiar with any definition of god, you would not give a definition, so i did, and now you criticize the definition i gave?

I don't think you could clearly define him as a powerful ruler though he did have state backing.(and funding presumably)


He's spirit still rules over much of Asia...

Wanna fight about it?

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Sun 10/05/08 05:57 PM
Edited by Mentork on Sun 10/05/08 05:59 PM
Not really, she cant disprove him under every definition of god.

And if she tries I'll devastate her.

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Sun 10/05/08 05:50 PM
Edited by Mentork on Sun 10/05/08 05:54 PM
Hummm...

You didn't define god...

Here. let me ;)

This is merriam-webster

1a the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

1b the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind


2: a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship ; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality

3: a person or thing of supreme value

4: a powerful ruler


Disprove him on 1a, 1b, 2, 3, and 4, and i will admit that he is not a god.

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Sun 10/05/08 05:27 PM
Edited by Mentork on Sun 10/05/08 05:29 PM
That site does not speak for me nor the Confucian religion, you just wanted examples.


At any rate,


Define god

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Sun 10/05/08 05:14 PM
Humm

Well, we got our own temples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Confucius

The han dynasty actually sacrificed stuff too him.

http://www.sacu.org/religion.html

Well we got temples, prayer, sacrifice, a holy book...

Sure seems like a religion to me...

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Sun 10/05/08 05:06 PM
Edited by Mentork on Sun 10/05/08 05:06 PM
So if someone writes a book and designs their own philosophy, they are capable of attaining "god status"?


yep

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Sun 10/05/08 05:02 PM
wine

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Sun 10/05/08 04:45 PM
He has a book, and i pray to him, need more?

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Sun 10/05/08 04:33 PM



hello all

Happy Sunday flowerforyou



Hey franshade.....welcome love are you playing or visiting.


thought I was in the game, but no emails to me brokenheart


Fanshade, i tried to mail, but you have made your settings so only people over the age of 35 can email you...

;_;

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