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The Peril of Unbelief
Part 1: Satan’s Deceptions Some people, valuing their own independence and seemingly needing no one, take control of their lives with such a sense of power that God has no place in their lives at all. Even when they have daily problems, they don’t look to God as a resource for their lives. Do you fit this profile? And if so why is it that you feel that you can’t look at God to deal with daily issues. Do you feel it makes you less of a person? In an attempt to forge their own destiny, many think they can get by independently and apart from God. This is fine….for me a delusional, since every breath we take comes as a gift from God Himself. Many people are deluded in this way because they have come under the influence of satan, who seeks to prevent them from ever coming to faith in Jesus Christ. Before our world began, satan sought to rule in God’s Heaven and began gathering other angels as his own followers. As the anointed guardian cherub in heaven, satan, opposing God’s rulership and, filled with self-righteousness, schemed to seize authority in Heaven and was chastised by God. Having been banished to our earthly realm, satan began to direct his deceptions at humans. On of the main ways he corrupts people is keeping them so busy they don’t have time for God. When people fall prey to this pattern of living, they neglect the great issues that pertain to their eternal destiny. Most people who fall prey to satan’s schemes typically are unaware of his influence. He often works for decades, even through a person’s whole lifetime, without being detected…..Jesus seeing our predicament of being held captive by satan’s deception, willingly gave up Heaven to come to Earth to save us. Do you believe this could be possible? If not explain why not? Next part of series is Our Belief vs Unbelief |
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Even when they have daily problems, they don’t look to God as a resource for their lives. Do you fit this profile? And if so why is it that you feel that you can’t look at God to deal with daily issues. Do you feel it makes you less of a person? if christians believe that God has a Divine Plan then why do they not understand that those daily issues in their life is his doings and of his choosing to fit his Divine Plan and that it's not only a disrepect to God but also selfish to look towards him to alter them just for you |
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Your not understand the concept funch. I will try to give you an example.....maybe...giggle.....If I have a very important meeting or an account I want to get. Of course I can do it on my own. I just know that Christ is always there....so if before the meeting I say....Lord give me the words of wisdom, the strength to get through this meeting, and the wisdom to give it my best. Is that a bad thing in your mind? It's not a matter of God altering anything...It's a matter of giving "All" of my life to him.....And so before anything I talk to God.
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Even when they have daily problems, they don't look to God as a resource for their lives. Do you fit this profile? And if so why is it that you feel that you can't look at God to deal with daily issues. Do you feel it makes you less of a person? Been there and tried that and it didn't work. Simple as that. In an attempt to forge their own destiny, many think they can get by independently and apart from God. This is fine....for me a delusional, since every breath we take comes as a gift from God Himself. Many people are deluded in this way because they have come under the influence of satan, who seeks to prevent them from ever coming to faith in Jesus Christ. I am absolutely certain that I am not under the influence of any evil demon. If believed that evil demons were intervening in my life I'd probably believe that good forces could intervene as well. I don't see evidence of any spiritual intervention in my life, good or bad. Before our world began, satan sought to rule in God's Heaven and began gathering other angels as his own followers. As the anointed guardian cherub in heaven, satan, opposing God's rulership and, filled with self-righteousness, schemed to seize authority in Heaven and was chastised by God. That whole story assumes that God's power rest solely in his authority and in his position of authority. It suggests that God could indeed be overthrown. I don't believe that god's power lies in being an authoritarian. Having been banished to our earthly realm, satan began to direct his deceptions at humans. On of the main ways he corrupts people is keeping them so busy they don't have time for God. I thought idle hands were the work of the devil. Keeping busy is supposed to be the godly thing to do.  When people fall prey to this pattern of living, they neglect the great issues that pertain to their eternal destiny. Most people who fall prey to satan's schemes typically are unaware of his influence. He often works for decades, even through a person's whole lifetime, without being detected.....Jesus seeing our predicament of being held captive by satan's deception, willingly gave up Heaven to come to Earth to save us. Do you believe this could be possible? If not explain why not? No it makes no sense to me. Jesus was supposed to be the God of Abraham. He's the same God who supposedly sent Satan to earth in the first place. Moreover this God of Abraham is supposed to be all-powerful. The idea that he would need to come to earth as a human and be nailed to a pole to appease Satan is a totally absurd notion. No all-powerful God would need to play on Satan's terms. Thus this picture that claims to be of an all-powerful God cannot be of an all-powerful God. It's a self-inconsistent picture. I see absolutely no reason whatsoever why I should believe in this picture. It seems totally absurd to me. It's a picture of a very inept God. What can I say? |
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Of course I can do it on my own. well "feralcatlady" it appears that you just answered the question to your original post |
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Even when they have daily problems, they don't look to God as a resource for their lives. Do you fit this profile? And if so why is it that you feel that you can't look at God to deal with daily issues. Do you feel it makes you less of a person? Been there and tried that and it didn't work. Simple as that. Havn't done this in awhile: Debbie says: Then could you or would you ask your self why.....Because I have tried it and it works every time. I am no more special then anyone else...other then my Faith in Him is the key.... In an attempt to forge their own destiny, many think they can get by independently and apart from God. This is fine....for me a delusional, since every breath we take comes as a gift from God Himself. Many people are deluded in this way because they have come under the influence of satan, who seeks to prevent them from ever coming to faith in Jesus Christ. I am absolutely certain that I am not under the influence of any evil demon. If believed that evil demons were intervening in my life I'd probably believe that good forces could intervene as well. I don't see evidence of any spiritual intervention in my life, good or bad. Debbie wrote: But you would not even know if your were not....example....satan works on the sly...and any in he will take...the smallest of doubt in Christ will let him in...So abra how do you know that all you speak isn't of satan.....not trying to be a smart ass...just asking. Before our world began, satan sought to rule in God's Heaven and began gathering other angels as his own followers. As the anointed guardian cherub in heaven, satan, opposing God's rulership and, filled with self-righteousness, schemed to seize authority in Heaven and was chastised by God. That whole story assumes that God's power rest solely in his authority and in his position of authority. It suggests that God could indeed be overthrown. Debbie says' Read closer what I said.....satan "tried" God chastised and therefore satan knew who was in authroity. So no God can not be overthrown. I don't believe that god's power lies in being an authoritarian. Having been banished to our earthly realm, satan began to direct his deceptions at humans. On of the main ways he corrupts people is keeping them so busy they don't have time for God. Debbie says: What do you believe God's power is then? I thought idle hands were the work of the devil. Keeping busy is supposed to be the godly thing to do. Debbie says: Meaning keeping you busy in evil and nasty therefore taking God out of the equation. satan lives for that...and because God gave us freewill it is your choice to believe as you wish... When people fall prey to this pattern of living, they neglect the great issues that pertain to their eternal destiny. Most people who fall prey to satan's schemes typically are unaware of his influence. He often works for decades, even through a person's whole lifetime, without being detected.....Jesus seeing our predicament of being held captive by satan's deception, willingly gave up Heaven to come to Earth to save us. Do you believe this could be possible? If not explain why not? No it makes no sense to me. Jesus was supposed to be the God of Abraham. He's the same God who supposedly sent Satan to earth in the first place. Moreover this God of Abraham is supposed to be all-powerful. The idea that he would need to come to earth as a human and be nailed to a pole to appease Satan is a totally absurd notion. No all-powerful God would need to play on Satan's terms. Jesus didn't send satan to earth...God did. Jesus didn't have to do anything....He "chose" to.... Thus this picture that claims to be of an all-powerful God cannot be of an all-powerful God. It's a self-inconsistent picture. I see absolutely no reason whatsoever why I should believe in this picture. It seems totally absurd to me. It's a picture of a very inept God. What can I say? Debbie says: And you are entitled to believe the above abra....as I believe that God is the all powerful......It is a far cry for me that there is any inconsistancies whatsoever. |
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Of course I can do it on my own. well "feralcatlady" it appears that you just answered the question to your original post But I already knew my answer....I can do it on my own...I choose not to. |
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Of course I can do it on my own. well "feralcatlady" it appears that you just answered the question to your original post But I already knew my answer....I can do it on my own...I choose not to. well if you choose not to do it on your own only indicates your own signs of insecurity of not being able to actually do it on your own ..and if others have the strength to do it on their own then why would you want others to be inudated with a lack of confidence in theirselves |
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Debbie says: Jesus didn't send satan to earth...God did. So then you agree that Jesus isn't God? 
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Debbie says: Jesus didn't send satan to earth...God did. the devil made him do it |
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Debbie says: Jesus didn't send satan to earth...God did. So then you agree that Jesus isn't God? well for me you have to clarify.....you have God.....who is the one who sent satan to earth...and you have Jesus Chris his son...also God...who didn't send satan to earth....but who will in the end cast satan to the pitts of hell for eternity. So there ya have in in a nutshell....or God shell..your choice. |
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Of course I can do it on my own. well "feralcatlady" it appears that you just answered the question to your original post But I already knew my answer....I can do it on my own...I choose not to. well if you choose not to do it on your own only indicates your own signs of insecurity of not being able to actually do it on your own ..and if others have the strength to do it on their own then why would you want others to be inudated with a lack of confidence in theirselves me insecure.....hahahahha It has nothing to do with my self esteem....it's know that Christ is there for me....and knowing that always gives me a sense of peace. Of course I make decisions all the time...I have been CEO and head of corportions.....but I choose to have the Lord & Savior lead all of my decisions because that is what I want. It's like before anything I say or do I ask WWJD it's not because I can't it's because it makes me think more about what I am doing and how it will affect those around me....including you sweet funch. |
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Where are all the single ladies?
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Well, I don't want a relationship. So, you married ladies will do too.
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me insecure.....hahahahha It has nothing to do with my self esteem....it's know that Christ is there for me....and knowing that always gives me a sense of peace. Of course I make decisions all the time...I have been CEO and head of corportions.....but I choose to have the Lord & Savior lead all of my decisions because that is what I want. It's like before anything I say or do I ask WWJD it's not because I can't it's because it makes me think more about what I am doing and how it will affect those around me....including you sweet funch. "feralcatlady" you being a CEO and head of corporations was considered by Jesus as being a "money changer" and he became very angry and wouldn't even allow such activity in his temple this is one of the few times that Jesus ever lost his cool and displayed manic behavior by turning over tables and benches of the "money-changers" ...in other words ..Jesus snapped .. and now you say that you ask Jesus for guidance and support when you go out to "money-change" or aid and abet in "money-changing" .... if you truely knew the teachings of Jesus you wouldn't ask his blessings in such endeavors .. |
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Debbie says: Jesus didn't send satan to earth...God did. So then you agree that Jesus isn't God? well for me you have to clarify.....you have God.....who is the one who sent satan to earth...and you have Jesus Chris his son...also God...who didn't send satan to earth....but who will in the end cast satan to the pitts of hell for eternity. So there ya have in in a nutshell....or God shell..your choice. "feralcatlady" now you know that explanation sounds delusional... you are disrespecting God by claiming that Jesus is God when the evidence clearly show that he is not God...Christianity try to imply that God is three different entities like the three faces of Eve ...this only implies that God is a schiziod ..I'm not trying to be disprectful with your religion I'm only presenting the same facts that you are |
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Awww my lil funches I was in no way what is considered a money changer.....One has not one thing to do with the others. The people he was referring to at the temple were doing so in the place of worshiping his father......so again way way off.
I guess it's safe to say that you need to brush up on your Bible skills if your going to use it to battle with me cuz so far it just is making me giggle. And Jesus didn't snap as when He turned over the tables was doing so in a very stern and with a purpose reason. And you bet your bootey I ask him always for guidance in my life. And since I do know the teachings and you so obviously do not...I would say that I am going to keep up what I am doing. |
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Awww my lil funches I was in no way what is considered a money changer.....One has not one thing to do with the others. "feralcatlady" the purpose of a CEO of any corporation is to design or manage the ways for the exchange of services or products for money ..so if you claim to be a CEO then this was your function unless you guys were only using Monopoly money ..so you now claiming to be a CEO and then denying being a money-changer is a contradiction and being deceptive ... it's no harm in being a money-changer until you include Jesus into the equation and that is what you are doing when you ask Jesus for support in your money-changing endeavors And Jesus didn't snap as when He turned over the tables was doing so in a very stern and with a purpose reason. "feralcatlady" even the bible admit Jesus had a conniption fit and went bonkers and started destroying the money-changers livelyhood in his temple ..maybe you miss this passage in the bible..it's in Matthew 21:12 ..so if you were in his temple CEO-ing he would have casted you out ...and that is the reason you shouldn't be asking Jesus to bless your money-changing excursions And since I do know the teachings and you so obviously do not... I would say that I am going to keep up what I am doing. don't worry Jesus I will place "feralcatlady" on the right path |
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me insecure.....hahahahha It has nothing to do with my self esteem....it's know that Christ is there for me....and knowing that always gives me a sense of peace. Of course I make decisions all the time...I have been CEO and head of corportions.....but I choose to have the Lord & Savior lead all of my decisions because that is what I want. It's like before anything I say or do I ask WWJD it's not because I can't it's because it makes me think more about what I am doing and how it will affect those around me....including you sweet funch. "feralcatlady" you being a CEO and head of corporations was considered by Jesus as being a "money changer" and he became very angry and wouldn't even allow such activity in his temple this is one of the few times that Jesus ever lost his cool and displayed manic behavior by turning over tables and benches of the "money-changers" ...in other words ..Jesus snapped .. and now you say that you ask Jesus for guidance and support when you go out to "money-change" or aid and abet in "money-changing" .... if you truely knew the teachings of Jesus you wouldn't ask his blessings in such endeavors .. It is because of my personal relationship with Jesus that I ask him always and forever to be the guiding force in my life. |
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It is because of my personal relationship with Jesus that I ask him always and forever to be the guiding force in my life. "fearalcatlady" you asking Jesus for guidance in your CEO-ing money changing ways is an indication that you are not familar with "The Parable of The Slothful Servant" ..in which you are gathering where Jesus and God have scattered no seeds .. God's law forbids an interest in money well except for the Vatican apparently... but you are trying to use Jesus as a way to rationalize going against God's Law when all you have to do is stop praying to Jesus to aid you in your money exchanging matters ..I mean it's so logical to realize that Jesus's teachings didn't include the gathering and/or the exchanging of money .. "fearlcatlady" my little christian lamb it's time to listen to Funches the Shepherd and stop such heathenous practices |
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