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Topic: McCain debates,,,,,,,, McCain???
Fanta46's photo
Thu 08/07/08 01:49 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 08/07/08 01:50 PM
McC,,, Cee you o the flip-flop..

onf,,,, Fak a Republican..

used,,, daaa, old, confused, and used!!!


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Dragoness's photo
Thu 08/07/08 02:08 PM

Here is what Obama really said

"we could save all the oil that they are talking about drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune ups. You could actually save just as much."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0

How stupid was that!
Guess Obama wants the cops to start ticketing motorist with underinflated tires.

laugh laugh laugh




Tires inflated and tune ups do save gas, it is a proven fact. I don't see anything wrong with the suggestion, it is not all he has said about oil and gas though.

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 08/07/08 03:22 PM
smokin John McCain is gonna be humiliated in the presidential debates. smokin He just doesnt stand a chance against Obama in a debate.smokin I dont know if that means that Obama will win though.smokin

Fanta46's photo
Thu 08/07/08 09:36 PM

smokin John McCain is gonna be humiliated in the presidential debates. smokin He just doesnt stand a chance against Obama in a debate.smokin I dont know if that means that Obama will win though.smokin


So you've seen him in a debate too!
drinker drinker drinker


MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 08/07/08 09:52 PM


smokin John McCain is gonna be humiliated in the presidential debates. smokin He just doesnt stand a chance against Obama in a debate.smokin I dont know if that means that Obama will win though.smokin


So you've seen him in a debate too!
drinker drinker drinker


drinker Yeah. bigsmile Ive seen both Obama and McCain in debates many times. I just dont see there being anyway that McCain is going to be able to come out of any presidential debate looking good against Obama.John McCain also has the tendency to become easily confused and its been getting worse for the last few years.Obama has him hopelessly outgunned in the speaking and charisma department and it has a lot to do with age, but quite frankly Obama is just a lot more likeable.glasses

s1owhand's photo
Fri 08/08/08 04:49 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 08/08/08 04:50 AM
i wouldn't have thought that Obama would've fared
so badly against Hillary either. but he did.

noway

i think it'll be more interesting that you think mirror.

but i also don't think Obama can win. it is the
electoral map. he's gonna lose VA, PA, OH, MI and FL
i'm afraid. The map is gonna look a lot like Bush-Kerry.
All the voters who voted previously for Bush will vote
for McCain plus a large number of independents probably
the majority of independence.

Obama's lack of experience and Democratic political
blunders will be his downfall. They pushed him too soon....

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 08/08/08 10:09 AM

i wouldn't have thought that Obama would've fared
so badly against Hillary either. but he did.

noway

i think it'll be more interesting that you think mirror.

but i also don't think Obama can win. it is the
electoral map. he's gonna lose VA, PA, OH, MI and FL
i'm afraid. The map is gonna look a lot like Bush-Kerry.
All the voters who voted previously for Bush will vote
for McCain plus a large number of independents probably
the majority of independence.

Obama's lack of experience and Democratic political
blunders will be his downfall. They pushed him too soon....
glasses Its will be a shame that this country will be ran by a confused old man who is the definition of establishment politicians.glasses What does McCain stand for? What does he offer? glasses

Fanta46's photo
Fri 08/08/08 10:37 AM

i wouldn't have thought that Obama would've fared
so badly against Hillary either. but he did.

noway

i think it'll be more interesting that you think mirror.

but i also don't think Obama can win. it is the
electoral map. he's gonna lose VA, PA, OH, MI and FL
i'm afraid. The map is gonna look a lot like Bush-Kerry.
All the voters who voted previously for Bush will vote
for McCain plus a large number of independents probably
the majority of independence.

Obama's lack of experience and Democratic political
blunders will be his downfall. They pushed him too soon....


You need to recheck that slow.
If the election were held today they have Obama with well over the 270 electorial votes needed!!

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 08/08/08 02:07 PM
glasses McCain has never been publicly vetted about what and how much medications he is taking.glasses Aside from his anger and arthritic pain issues, McCain has had reoccurring bouts of malignant melanoma, a deadly form of cancer that can spread quickly throughout the body.glasses


s1owhand's photo
Fri 08/08/08 03:16 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 08/08/08 03:22 PM
My current estimate of the electoral college would give:

Obama only 226 - California (55), Connecticut (7), Hawaii (4), Illinois (21), Iowa (7), Maine (4), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (12), Minnesota (10), New Jersey (15), New York (31), Oregon (7), Rhode Island (4), Vermont (3), Washington (11), Washington DC (3), Wisconsin (10), Delaware (3), New Hampshire (4), and New Mexico (5)

that would leave McCain with 312. the trend in several important battleground states has been swinging toward McCain...

these are only estimates but it could very easily be leaning
this way. there are no other clear states for Obama.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 08/08/08 05:27 PM
Obama 311 vs. McCain 227

Rasmussen Reports Results By State
Last Updated: 8/7/08

State #EV End Date Barack Obama John McCain
California 55 7/24/08 50.0 38.0
Texas 34 7/30/08 41.0 50.0
New York 31 8/4/08 52.0 32.0
Florida 27 7/22/08 46.0 45.0
Illinois 21 7/8/08 50.0 37.0
Pennsylvania 21 7/23/08 47.0 42.0
Ohio 20 7/21/08 40.0 46.0
Michigan 17 7/10/08 47.0 39.0
Georgia 15 7/17/08 39.0 48.0
New Jersey 15 8/4/08 48.0 40.0
North Carolina 15 7/15/08 42.0 45.0
Virginia 13 7/16/08 44.0 44.0
Massachusetts 12 6/30/08 53.0 33.0
Missouri 11 7/7/08 42.0 47.0
Tennessee 11 6/26/08 36.0 51.0
Washington 11 7/9/08 48.0 39.0
Arizona 10 7/30/08 36.0 52.0
Minnesota 10 7/22/08 49.0 37.0
Wisconsin 10 7/8/08 50.0 39.0
Alabama 9 6/26/020 36.0 51.0
Colorado 9 7/21/08 50.0 47.0
Louisiana 9 7/9/08 34.0 54.0
Kentucky 8 7/29/08 39.0 49.0
South Carolina 8 6/9/08 39.0 48.0
Connecticut 7 7/31/08 51.0 36.0
Iowa 7 7/10/08 48.0 38.0
Oregon 7 7/15/08 46.0 37.0
Arkansas 6 7/17/08 37.0 47.0
Kansas 6 7/14/08 32.0 52.0
Mississippi 6 7/28/08 41.0 52.0
Nebraska 5 7/28/08 32.0 50.0
New Mexico 5 7/24/08 46.0 41.0
Nevada 5 7/16/08 42.0 40.0
Utah 5 6/24/08 33.0 52.0
West Virginia 5 6/6/08 37.0 45.0
Maine 4 7/17/08 46.0 36.0
New Hampshire 4 7/23/08 47.0 41.0
Rhode Island 4 6/30/08 55.0 31.0
Alaska 3 7/30/08 39.0 44.0
South Dakota 3 7/9/08 40.0 44.0
Montana 3 7/29/08 44.0 45.0
North Dakota 3 7/8/08 43.0 43.0


Fanta46's photo
Fri 08/08/08 05:28 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 08/08/08 05:30 PM
Your counting wrong!!:wink:



McC,,, Cee you on the flip-flop..

onf,,,, Fak a Republican..

used,,, daaa, old, confused, and used!!!

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

s1owhand's photo
Fri 08/08/08 09:55 PM
like i said, the recent shift has been
toward McCain in many of the key battleground
states.

Obama is in SERIOUS trouble in
PA, OH, MI, FL, VA, NV, ND

I don't see him winning in any of them at
election time. This would reverse the count
which you naively believe in...

noway

he'll carry CA and NY but like I said it is
looking like Kerry all over again. Sorry to say.
And i'm not a McCain supporter. i'm pretty neutral
but also realistic.

The Dems did it to themselves though.


Fanta46's photo
Sat 08/09/08 08:26 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 08/09/08 08:27 AM

like i said, the recent shift has been
toward McCain in many of the key battleground
states.

Obama is in SERIOUS trouble in
PA, OH, MI, FL, VA, NV, ND

I don't see him winning in any of them at
election time. This would reverse the count
which you naively believe in...

noway

he'll carry CA and NY but like I said it is
looking like Kerry all over again. Sorry to say.
And i'm not a McCain supporter. i'm pretty neutral
but also realistic.

The Dems did it to themselves though.




My list is dated, 08-07-08:wink:

Obama 311 vs. McCain 227

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