That, by the way, is mostly a facetious question. I don't, myself, think kids are horrible at all. I have kids. Indeed, that's why I am posting this. There seems to be an overall freak-out that happens in a man when he finds a woman is a mother; it is quite a reoccurrence in my life, in fact. One that seriously baffles me.

I am very interested in opinions from both sides about this, though especially from men, as I can't seem to get a straight answer out of my own male friends.

So, guys, why ARE kids so horrible?

When I was younger, I dated several consecutive older women, all of whom were divorced and had kids. In most cases, those women were not interested in a relationship at all -- they simply wanted someone to come in and play Daddy.

I eventually discovered that I have no interest in, nor aptitude for, that role.

It's not that I think kids are terrible -- for the most part, I tend to like them and get along with them well. I have friends with kids and that has never been a problem.

I just don't want to be a parent, nor do I want to be with anyone who is.

Don't know...personally I don't care.

Well, I've never met anyone like that so can't speak from experience. My best guess is that they are either (a) not ready for that kind of responsibility or (b) simply don't want children. Either way, if you're a mom, then best to steer clear. You can't change their minds, most often, and then if you do get involved, things most likely won't work out and others aside from yourselves are also hurt in the process.

I have nothing against anyone who doesn't like/want kids. It's a personal choice and nothing wrong with it. But, I wouldn't get involved with someone who felt that way.

I don't have kids, but my girlfriend has one who is 16. I can't really answer your question, as I am not one of those men you described.
ADDNOTE: Personally I don't feel that a woman having one or two kids is a bad thing at all. It shows responsibility. It's when women have three to six kids, all with different fathers that scares me.

What about a mom who has 5 kids with the same man whom she was married to the entire time?

As for wanting a Daddy, I don't. I take care of my childen fine. I pay my bills. I feed and clothe the children. My ex pays child support and helps with expenses besides. I don't want a Daddy for my kids - they have one. Unfortunatley, men seem to automatically assume I do. It's frustrating actually.

Perhaps you should look for a single father? That way, you know he doesn't mind having kids around. Just a thought.

They are such a ccckblock.

uhhh.. I am talking about my own kids.

Understood. But keep in kind that everyone I was involved with, who was just looking for New Daddy, denied that they were doing this the entire time. Those kids had Dads, too, but, apparently, those Moms thought one wasn't enough.

I'm not saying you're like those women -- truth is, I don't know, and I have no way of knowing. I'm saying that, given my own personal history, it isn't worth dealing with that scenario again. I simply refuse to do so.

People write to me and want to argue with me about this, and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion -- I don't have to agree with theirs and they don't have to agree with mine.

It doesn't matter in the end, either way, though. I've experienced enough to know it's not for me.

Oh, I am meeting dads now. It's not really a question of wanting childless men to understand, more a question of myself understanding their pov.

As for women saying they don't want a Dad, I understand that, though I am not one of those and it is annoying that they have ruined it for the rest of us. That said, yeah, I can imagine that's as annoying as men who say they don't just want sex.

Pfft to them all.

They can be a block for women, too. Just emotionally instead of physically.

i only date women with kids. I have 2 of my own so they know what its like. if you wanna see someone run,wait til they find out you are 46 with a 6 yr old....lol

5 kids at 31... automatic assumption is I'm a whore of course. Fact is, I married at 18, had 5 kids ALL with my husband (married at every conception AND birth), and got a divorce. Period. So... it's funny how assumptions can be so very untrue, huh?

Kids aren't horrible if parents raise them right. Some kids can be horrible. Mine never was. My sisters WERE!

Children can be and alot are soooo coool to have around. You can feel the difference in a house with children and one that is childless...a quiet...but not a happy quiet...a sad one...children are soooo unappreciated for the joy they bring!

My daughter is 16...sure miss her young years..though I am enjoying watchig her turn into a young lady.

Now, I am having "empty arms syndrome" Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

WOW now even more sooo...one of my friends just sent me a pic of her new grandson born yesterday! Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww he's soooo adorable!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanna babyYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Ok somone slap me!!!

Oh good, I hope it all goes well for you. :)

smack! did that help?

well make up yer mind......lol

Ima woman

Truthfully, 5 would be too many for me. Hey at least I am honest about it from the get go.