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Topic: Liberals Savior
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Mon 09/15/08 08:09 PM
Edited by t22learner on Mon 09/15/08 08:10 PM
Keep working at anything but the real issues where McCain's campaign is hopeless... It's the economy, stupid, and McCain's top advisor, Phil Gramm, is a central figure in our current financial meltdown.

I don't know about you, but I've had my Phil of that...

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Mon 09/15/08 08:09 PM


No proof, although that's not needed for Faux and the wrong to smear Obama with it.


What, the mighty obama cannot take being Smeared, That is all you all have been doing to Palin in these threads..... That is all the Dems have been doing to palin... Surely he can take it, He is sure good at giving it, just like every liberal out there.......

Your Obama is flawed worst than everyone else.... If your little Savior is innocent, then why doesn't he clear his name?


You dems are turning to someone you have no clue about....
I guess all of us Independents and DEMs are all the same..I guess if all you REPs are the same you all would never leave the bathroom stall!!!!

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Mon 09/15/08 08:10 PM


More propaganda.


like all that crap you all say about Palin?

The facts about Palin are starting to come out.

This is pure propaganda that you have posted.

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Mon 09/15/08 08:21 PM

Keep working at anything but the real issues where McCain's campaign is hopeless... It's the economy, stupid, and McCain's top advisor, Phil Gramm, is a central figure in our current financial meltdown.

I don't know about you, but I've had my Phil of that...


His Campaign doesn't seem to be hopeless, I think it is coming long strong

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Mon 09/15/08 08:22 PM



More propaganda.


like all that crap you all say about Palin?

The facts about Palin are starting to come out.

This is pure propaganda that you have posted.


how is it propaganda? Oh, it is against a Democrat, that is wrong, it must be propaganda.

Show me the proof.....

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Mon 09/15/08 08:38 PM
Edited by 1956deluxe on Mon 09/15/08 08:40 PM




More propaganda.


like all that crap you all say about Palin?

The facts about Palin are starting to come out.

This is pure propaganda that you have posted.


how is it propaganda? Oh, it is against a Democrat, that is wrong, it must be propaganda.

Show me the proof.....

From Factcheck.org

This article was referencing the propaganda from Jerome Corsi that many are stating as fact:

Corsi's Dull Hatchet
September 15, 2008

Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods.

Summary

Despite its place near the top of The New York Times' nonfiction bestseller list, where it has been riding high for the past six weeks, Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is not a reliable source of facts about Obama.


"Other chapters offer more of the same regarding Obama's well-known connections to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, to former Weather Underground fugitive (and now longtime professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago) William Ayers, and Obama's friend Tony Rezko, recently convicted in a celebrated corruption trial. Nowhere does Corsi demonstrate that Obama agrees with what Wright or Ayers have said or done, or that he broke any laws as Rezko did. Corsi completely ignores what Obama actually says about both Wright and Ayers. Nowhere in the book will be found Obama's March 14 statement rejecting Wright, when Obama said, "I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country," or Obama's April 16 comment on Ayers, whom he said "engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old." Nor does Corsi offer anything new connecting Obama to Rezko, a relationship we've addressed twice in earlier articles.

Attempting to discredit Obama because of an association with unsavory people rather than with actual proof that Obama shares their views is an instance of a logical fallacy that philosophers call guilt-by-association. Corsi uses the technique to fill chapters three through seven."



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Mon 09/15/08 09:05 PM
My article said that he was 8 yrs old also, but:

Clinton is correct that both men served together on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Ayers joined the board in 1999 and is still on it. Obama left it in December 2002 after nine years.



So I guess Palins Book banning was propaganda also

She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

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Mon 09/15/08 10:33 PM

Is there any proof Obama knew of Ayers past when they were associating?


Try listening to the news once in a while
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Lindyy
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Mon 09/15/08 10:43 PM
wow...animated smiles make it all clear for me!!

If you want to make broad associations bring it on!

There's a bushel basket full of ugly that can be associated with McCain in the last twenty years.

If you want to tie a candidate to their associates McCain is clearly a criminal...

/whistles as she walks away...savings and loans....

Before the hands over their eyes and ears crowd posts please do a a fact check.

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Tue 09/16/08 02:16 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Tue 09/16/08 02:18 AM
Yes...this would be crap to those who walk with their eyes closed.

DEMS never are FOR America.

BTW...I went to the DNC site yesterday to find out where the candidate stood on the issues. All I saw was alot of GOP bashing but nothing about how they want to make change... other than getting rid of REPS that is.

No plan just alot of bashing. Some platform.

McCain/Palin All the Way in 2008!

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Tue 09/16/08 04:29 AM

My article said that he was 8 yrs old also, but:

Clinton is correct that both men served together on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Ayers joined the board in 1999 and is still on it. Obama left it in December 2002 after nine years.



So I guess Palins Book banning was propaganda also

She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Kerbear, you're starting to catch on.

The Obama piece you posted is propaganda and so was the Palin piece on the book banning.

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Tue 09/16/08 04:43 AM

Yes...this would be crap to those who walk with their eyes closed.

DEMS never are FOR America.


Quickstepper, how can you make a statement like that? Dems are just as much American as anybody.

We are all Americans and we all love this country.




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Tue 09/16/08 09:00 AM


Maybe there's proof, but you don't have it.


So you want to take that chance and vote for someone that "Possibly" associates with a group that wanted to Harm America?


Like former president Bush Sr. and his ties to Saudi Arabia...??? Never bothered Americans before, why should it start bothering you all now?
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Tue 09/16/08 10:09 AM


Yes...this would be crap to those who walk with their eyes closed.

DEMS never are FOR America.


Quickstepper, how can you make a statement like that? Dems are just as much American as anybody.

We are all Americans and we all love this country.






Thank you.

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Tue 09/16/08 10:10 AM



Yes...this would be crap to those who walk with their eyes closed.

DEMS never are FOR America.


Quickstepper, how can you make a statement like that? Dems are just as much American as anybody.

We are all Americans and we all love this country.






Thank you.
Me too!!!!drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker

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