Topic: Letter from Ron Paul to American Public, Sept. 24, 2008
warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:15 AM
Dear Friends,

Whenever a Great Bipartisan Consensus is announced, and a compliant media assures everyone that the wondrous actions of our wise leaders are being taken for our own good, you can know with absolute certainty that disaster is about to strike.

The events of the past week are no exception.

The bailout package that is about to be rammed down Congress' throat is not just economically foolish. It is downright sinister. It makes a mockery of our Constitution, which our leaders should never again bother pretending is still in effect. It promises the American people a never-ending nightmare of ever-greater debt liabilities they will have to shoulder. Two weeks ago, financial analyst Jim Rogers said the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made America more communist than China! "This is welfare for the rich," he said. "This is socialism for the rich. It's bailing out the financiers, the banks, the Wall Streeters."

That describes the current bailout package to a T. And we're being told it's unavoidable.

The claim that the market caused all this is so staggeringly foolish that only politicians and the media could pretend to believe it. But that has become the conventional wisdom, with the desired result that those responsible for the credit bubble and its predictable consequences - predictable, that is, to those who understand sound, Austrian economics - are being let off the hook. The Federal Reserve System is actually positioning itself as the savior, rather than the culprit, in this mess!

• The Treasury Secretary is authorized to purchase up to $700 billion in mortgage-related assets at any one time. That means $700 billion is only the very beginning of what will hit us.

• Financial institutions are "designated as financial agents of the Government." This is the New Deal to end all New Deals.

• Then there's this: "Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency." Translation: the Secretary can buy up whatever junk debt he wants to, burden the American people with it, and be subject to no one in the process.There goes your country.

Even some so-called free-market economists are calling all this "sadly necessary." Sad, yes. Necessary? Don't make me laugh.

Our one-party system is complicit in yet another crime against the American people. The two major party candidates for president themselves initially indicated their strong support for bailouts of this kind - another example of the big choice we're supposedly presented with this November: yes or yes. Now, with a backlash brewing, they're not quite sure what their views are. A sad display, really.

Although the present bailout package is almost certainly not the end of the political atrocities we'll witness in connection with the crisis, time is short. Congress may vote as soon as tomorrow. With a Rasmussen poll finding support for the bailout at an anemic seven percent, some members of Congress are afraid to vote for it. Call them! Let them hear from you! Tell them you will never vote for anyone who supports this atrocity.

The issue boils down to this: do we care about freedom? Do we care about responsibility and accountability? Do we care that our government and media have been bought and paid for? Do we care that average Americans are about to be looted in order to subsidize the fattest of cats on Wall Street and in government? Do we care?

When the chips are down, will we stand up and fight, even if it means standing up against every stripe of fashionable opinion in politics and the media?

Times like these have a way of telling us what kind of a people we are, and what kind of country we shall be.

In liberty,Ron Paul

tanyaann's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:21 AM
Amen! God Bless Ron Paul!

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:32 AM

Amen! God Bless Ron Paul!


When someone says Patriot, he's the first guy I think of.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:33 AM
one of my cousins... like a 3rd or 4th cousin... oh well doesn't matter... was a volunteer on his campaign

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:34 AM

one of my cousins... like a 3rd or 4th cousin... oh well doesn't matter... was a volunteer on his campaign



I did alot of work for Dr.Paul while I was in Kansas. If the info I'm digging up on Baldwin comes back okay, I'll go to work for him in CO.

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Thu 09/25/08 10:35 AM


Amen! God Bless Ron Paul!


When someone says Patriot, he's the first guy I think of.


all man war i thought it would have been me

what

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Thu 09/25/08 10:35 AM
And on the other side of the coil you have Bush scaring the hell out of you the other way....vote yes or we're in trouble.

*shakes head*


warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:35 AM



Amen! God Bless Ron Paul!


When someone says Patriot, he's the first guy I think of.


all man war i thought it would have been me

what


Close second, ADJ!

smokin

tanyaann's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:36 AM


one of my cousins... like a 3rd or 4th cousin... oh well doesn't matter... was a volunteer on his campaign



I did alot of work for Dr.Paul while I was in Kansas. If the info I'm digging up on Baldwin comes back okay, I'll go to work for him in CO.


well he was there in kansas, his mom had to go get him...... oh which one of the boys was out there.... DJ? I think.

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:41 AM
Huh, I might have ran into him, but I was going a different route than most Paul supporters, I was involved in the infiltration of the one mind set republicans, I went in and got them talking about real issues as opposed to having a hour Clinton bashing brunch.

It wasn't easy and I hate wearing a GOP disguise, but it was important and worth it.

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:43 AM
Ron Paul Against the Bailout

Statement Before the Financial Services Committee, "The Future of Financial Services: Exploring Solutions for the Market Crisis," September 24, 2008

Mr. Chairman,

It is truly a shame that, less than two decades after the fall of communism, the lessons of price control are completely lost on most Washington power-brokers. The Treasury proposal before Congress is nothing more than a form of price control, an attempt to keep asset prices artificially elevated. The root of our recent economic boom, as in any other business cycle, was government intervention into the market under the guise of lowering the interest rate, which is itself a price. The function that prices play in the market in equalizing supply and demand, and the distortions that necessarily accompany each government effort at price-fixing, are forgotten by too many in Washington.

One of the primary causes for the length and severity of the Great Depression in this country was the federal government's attempts at keeping prices artificially elevated. A typical example of getting causation backward, the federal government assumed that falling prices caused the depression, whereas in reality the falling prices were the result of the economic depression, and were necessary to bring the economy back into equilibrium. In its attempt to keep agricultural prices high, the federal government began to pay farmers to destroy their crops, while unemployed people lined up at soup kitchens around the country.

A similar situation exists today, where many mortgage-backed securities and other similar assets are horribly overvalued. The market response would be to allow these assets to be sold on the market at whatever price they would bring. This would result in a shakeout of bad debt and a shorter, sharper correction than would otherwise occur. Unfortunately, the political will to allow banks to take the responsibility for their lending actions is at times lacking.

Many here in Congress are asking where the money for this bailout will come from, and indeed it is a good question. $700 billion does not just materialize out of the ether, but then again neither do the hundreds of billions of dollars that we spend every year to fund our imperial war machine. We must the face the fact that our country is dead broke, and not just that, we are facing over $10 trillion in debt, and tens of trillions more in unfunded liabilities. This $700 billion bailout will only increase that debt, and increase the amount of money we pay merely to service the interest on that debt. The end result of this is higher taxes on our children and grandchildren, and the full-scale destruction of the dollar.

The only viable solution to this financial crisis is to keep the government from intervening any further. The Federal Reserve has already loaned hundreds of billions of dollars through its numerous lending facilities, and the Congress has passed legislation authorizing further hundreds of billions of dollars to bail out Fannie and Freddie, yet each successive crisis event seems to be advertised as larger and more severe than the previous one. It is time that this Congress put its foot down, reject the administration's proposal, and allow the bust to work itself out so that our economic hangover is not as severe as it might otherwise be.


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Statement before the Joint Economic Committee, "The Economic Outlook," September 24, 2008

Mr. Chairman,

I believe that our economy faces a bleak future, particularly if the latest $700 billion bailout plan ends up passing. We risk committing the same errors that prolonged the misery of the Great Depression, namely keeping prices from falling. Instead of allowing overvalued financial assets to take a hit and trade on the market at a more realistic value, the government seeks to purchase overvalued or worthless assets and hold them in the unrealistic hope that at some point in the next few decades, someone might be willing to purchase them.

One of the perverse effects of this bailout proposal is that the worst-performing firms, and those who interjected themselves most deeply into mortgage-backed securities, credit default swaps, and special investment vehicles will be those who benefit the most from this bailout. As with the bailout of airlines in the aftermath of 9/11, those businesses who were the least efficient, least productive, and least concerned with serving consumers are those who will be rewarded for their mismanagement with a government handout, rather than the failure of their company that is proper to the market. This creates a dangerous moral hazard, as the precedent of bailing out reckless lending will lead to even more reckless lending and irresponsible behavior on the part of financial firms in the future.

This bailout is a slipshod proposal, slapped together haphazardly and forced on an unwilling Congress with the threat that not passing it will lead to the collapse of the financial system. Some of the proposed alternatives are no better, for instance those which propose a government equity share in bailed-out companies. That we have come to a point where outright purchases of private sector companies is not only proposed but accepted by many who claim to be defenders of free markets bodes ill for the future of American society.

As with many other government proposals, the opportunity cost of this bailout goes unmentioned. $700 billion tied up in illiquid assets is $700 billion that is not put to productive use. That amount of money in the private sector could be used to research new technologies, start small businesses that create thousands of jobs, or upgrade vital infrastructure. Instead, that money will be siphoned off into unproductive assets which may burden the government for years to come. The great French economist Frédéric Bastiat is famous for explaining the difference between what is seen and what is unseen. In this case the bailout's proponents see the alleged benefits, while they fail to see the jobs, businesses, and technologies not created due to this utter waste of money.

The housing bubble has burst, unemployment is on the rise, and the dollar weakens every day. Unfortunately our leaders have failed to learn from the mistakes of previous generations and continue to lead us down the road toward economic ruin.


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Thu 09/25/08 10:44 AM

Huh, I might have ran into him, but I was going a different route than most Paul supporters, I was involved in the infiltration of the one mind set republicans, I went in and got them talking about real issues as opposed to having a hour Clinton bashing brunch.

It wasn't easy and I hate wearing a GOP disguise, but it was important and worth it.


oooooo sneaky! lol

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:49 AM
Well, I am a fiscal Conservative and a Social Libertarian.

So I have some things that a typical Rep. should stand for, in my belief system. I however don't beholden myself to party politics because it's fake.

Sneaky... Yeah, kinda, but a necessary tactic. If I had went in there bashing Bush and other dirty GOP scum, I wouldn't have stood a chance.

I have had plenty of conversations with Dems who all agree with about 70% of what I'm saying and most of them are shocked when they learn that I'm a conservative, I think I've done alot of work cutting through the stereotype of what a Conservative is. I'm trying to take the name back from the NeoCons, as best I can.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:55 AM

Well, I am a fiscal Conservative and a Social Libertarian.

So I have some things that a typical Rep. should stand for, in my belief system. I however don't beholden myself to party politics because it's fake.

Sneaky... Yeah, kinda, but a necessary tactic. If I had went in there bashing Bush and other dirty GOP scum, I wouldn't have stood a chance.

I have had plenty of conversations with Dems who all agree with about 70% of what I'm saying and most of them are shocked when they learn that I'm a conservative, I think I've done alot of work cutting through the stereotype of what a Conservative is. I'm trying to take the name back from the NeoCons, as best I can.



lol


I know where you are coming from... I consider myself a moderate republican .... but I am a mixture of beliefs.... due to all the different areas of my life. Its it funny how we are suppose to be crammed into two major parties.

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:57 AM
Yep, the Ole left/right paradign.

It's bull crap.

How about we start looking at Good/Evil and let people pick their affiliations by those standards.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 09/25/08 10:59 AM

Yep, the Ole left/right paradign.

It's bull crap.

How about we start looking at Good/Evil and let people pick their affiliations by those standards.


yep... not necessary good or evil... but what's best.

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Thu 09/25/08 03:16 PM
it's all well and good to sit there a talk the woes of what's wrong with our govt. It's harder to acually have the responsibility.

Ron Paul complains alot but I don't see him touting any solutions. Another one who is anti anything but short on ideas to resolve the problems.

So typical...

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/25/08 03:20 PM
If you haven't seen or heard Dr.Paul providing solutions, then you have either not been paying attention or have chosen to just not hear.

Pick a topic and I'll show Dr.Pauls answers, no problem.