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Topic: Kimbo Is A Fraud !!!!!
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Mon 10/06/08 03:12 PM
It was bound to happen sooner or later. The overnight sensation formerly known as Kevin Ferguson aka Kimbo Slice has FINALLY been revealed as a fraud.

I can't say that I blame Kimbo. The former homeless thug that became the King of the Internet Street Fighters was just taking advantage of an opportunity that allowed him to stay out of crime and feed his kids. Anyone in his situation would have done the same thing. The blame should fall on Elite XC and CBS for trying to fool America.

As a fellow martial artist myself, I resent Elite XC and CBS for still perpetrating the myth that MMA is nothing more than organized Tough Man competitions. MMA is a very disciplined and organized sport with its roots in ALL forms of martial arts, including JuJitsu, Judo, and Wrestling. The sports has grown because of the dedication, dedication, blood, sweat, and pain that its participants have paid to make it possible. And to think that you can take a guy who has no claim but beating up bums for money and make him a headliner on prime-time TV by just hyping him up is an insult to everyone who not only participates, but who are fans of MMA.

Kimbo got beat because he is a bum, period...It takes YEARS to get to the level and abilities of the Randy Coutoure's and the Chuck Liddell's. And the travesty is that Kimbo fell for the WEAKEST move of all....feint with a kick and throw a jab...it's like the FIRST move you learn in any martial art!

Kimbo's fifteen minutes are up....he should take his money, get an education, and learn how to make that money grow (diversify my brother!) because after that display Saturday night, he will NEVER, EVER be on any pay per view or free television event again.

IrishDynamite's photo
Mon 10/06/08 03:16 PM
I agree 100%, well said Will

bergeia's photo
Mon 10/06/08 03:20 PM
Edited by bergeia on Mon 10/06/08 03:21 PM
well something must be said for guys who can just naturally scrap. he isnt one of those though, he punches like an old man. god bless him for trying though? lol

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Mon 10/06/08 03:20 PM
He got beat because he ate a punch. He may be a bum, but I bet you wouldnt call him that to his face. Elite XC is like the WWE of MMA.

The only reason he was promoted the way he was, is because he was the only thing Elite XC really had going for them. Now that hes not only been beat, but shown to look like a fool, elite xc will go bankrupt.

If anything, he should get into boxing, and not mma.

willfen's photo
Mon 10/06/08 03:26 PM

He got beat because he ate a punch. He may be a bum, but I bet you wouldnt call him that to his face. Elite XC is like the WWE of MMA.

The only reason he was promoted the way he was, is because he was the only thing Elite XC really had going for them. Now that hes not only been beat, but shown to look like a fool, elite xc will go bankrupt.

If anything, he should get into boxing, and not mma.


Hmmm......I thought the UFC was the WWE of MMA? They seem to have the best fighters, their own reality show, the sellout crowds...but I guess as a fan and not a practitioner...you know the real deal.

And by the way...I am 6'2...300lbs of muscle with a black belt in TaeKwonDo and Jujitsu....I would not only tell him in his face, but dare him to do anything about it.

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Mon 10/06/08 03:27 PM
get an education?? culd you see big a** Kimbo Slice sitting next to you in biology class?? LMAO

he is nothing more that a bouncer that fought bums and looked good....when all he can do is throw a powerful (but slow) punch

i don't see him as a boxer either though....he is just too rough around the edges...not as refined as he needs to be to box with heavyweights

willfen's photo
Mon 10/06/08 03:28 PM

well something must be said for guys who can just naturally scrap. he isnt one of those though, he punches like an old man. god bless him for trying though? lol


Like I said...you can't knock Kimbo.....He's a 34 year old thug who saw an opportunity to get off the streets....I would have done the same thing for as long as I could, LOL!

willfen's photo
Mon 10/06/08 03:31 PM

get an education?? culd you see big a** Kimbo Slice sitting next to you in biology class?? LMAO

he is nothing more that a bouncer that fought bums and looked good....when all he can do is throw a powerful (but slow) punch

i don't see him as a boxer either though....he is just too rough around the edges...not as refined as he needs to be to box with heavyweights


I can see it...I'm a big guy and I went back to school at 30 and got my degree.

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Mon 10/06/08 03:32 PM
Kimbo Slice was nothing more than a Youtube star. Nuff said

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Mon 10/06/08 03:33 PM
that is awesome man...it would just be funny to see Kimbo doing it cuz he was "the real deal" and all that

i wish nothing but the best for him and would never knock him for what he did....but he is what he is and can never get past that

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Mon 10/06/08 03:35 PM


He got beat because he ate a punch. He may be a bum, but I bet you wouldnt call him that to his face. Elite XC is like the WWE of MMA.

The only reason he was promoted the way he was, is because he was the only thing Elite XC really had going for them. Now that hes not only been beat, but shown to look like a fool, elite xc will go bankrupt.

If anything, he should get into boxing, and not mma.


Hmmm......I thought the UFC was the WWE of MMA? They seem to have the best fighters, their own reality show, the sellout crowds...but I guess as a fan and not a practitioner...you know the real deal.

And by the way...I am 6'2...300lbs of muscle with a black belt in TaeKwonDo and Jujitsu....I would not only tell him in his face, but dare him to do anything about it.


Ha Ha ha....you are quick to judge.

To clear things up....what I meant as far as Elite XC being like WWE, is that its almost just for show. As in the spectacle known as Kimbo. He's 34 and has never fought mma in his life, yet because the fans want to see him fight, Elite XC will pay him,and keep paying him, and keep putting chumps in front of him to make sure he wins.

Well obviously it didnt work this time. Elite XC is already in a huge amount of debt. So now that their biggest draw has flubbed, where will they go now.

And as far as calling me a fan....sir you are mistaken. 5 years of Muay Thai training along with a purple belt in Gracie Ju-jitsu.

....and a 6-2 Amatuer Muay thai record along with a 4-2 mma record.

So maybe you shouldnt shoot off at the mouth before you get your facts straight.

willfen's photo
Mon 10/06/08 03:35 PM

that is awesome man...it would just be funny to see Kimbo doing it cuz he was "the real deal" and all that

i wish nothing but the best for him and would never knock him for what he did....but he is what he is and can never get past that

well said

willfen's photo
Mon 10/06/08 03:41 PM



He got beat because he ate a punch. He may be a bum, but I bet you wouldnt call him that to his face. Elite XC is like the WWE of MMA.

The only reason he was promoted the way he was, is because he was the only thing Elite XC really had going for them. Now that hes not only been beat, but shown to look like a fool, elite xc will go bankrupt.

If anything, he should get into boxing, and not mma.


Hmmm......I thought the UFC was the WWE of MMA? They seem to have the best fighters, their own reality show, the sellout crowds...but I guess as a fan and not a practitioner...you know the real deal.

And by the way...I am 6'2...300lbs of muscle with a black belt in TaeKwonDo and Jujitsu....I would not only tell him in his face, but dare him to do anything about it.


Ha Ha ha....you are quick to judge.

To clear things up....what I meant as far as Elite XC being like WWE, is that its almost just for show. As in the spectacle known as Kimbo. He's 34 and has never fought mma in his life, yet because the fans want to see him fight, Elite XC will pay him,and keep paying him, and keep putting chumps in front of him to make sure he wins.

Well obviously it didnt work this time. Elite XC is already in a huge amount of debt. So now that their biggest draw has flubbed, where will they go now.

And as far as calling me a fan....sir you are mistaken. 5 years of Muay Thai training along with a purple belt in Gracie Ju-jitsu.

....and a 6-2 Amatuer Muay thai record along with a 4-2 mma record.

So maybe you shouldnt shoot off at the mouth before you get your facts straight.

My 'shooting off' was merely a response to YOUR failure to present your point clearly...you are the one who had to clarify....How can I judge you? I don't even know you.
But I do have the right to voice my own opinion on MY topic don't I?

So in the future...save the veiled threats for your kids or the white belts in your class...because they are the ONLY ones who will listen to them.

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Mon 10/06/08 03:50 PM
Edited by Mayhem_J on Mon 10/06/08 04:08 PM


No...."shooting off" was you assuming I was just a fan. There was no need you assume that. You could have made your statement and left it that.

Threat? Ha ha ha...I seriously hope you didnt think I was threatening you. I was merely stating that you shouldn't make assumptions about people you know nothing about.

Anyway...this thread has become pointless.

So tootles to you good sir.


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Mon 10/06/08 04:07 PM
ohwell ohwell ohwell ohwell ohwell

Roco's photo
Mon 10/06/08 04:34 PM
..i disagree, i don't think this is the end for kimbo, rather, i think it will be a new opportunity for him...i'm certain the promoters have an already well thought out plan just for this scenario...they're going to hype this up even more...kimbo's comeback.. kimbo's redemption..so on and so forth...it wouldn't surprise me at the least if he gains even more popularity now....i'm not an expert in martial arts nor am i a pro - kimbo fan...but fighters get flash knockdowns for all sorts of reasons...perhaps he did get caught with an elementary move...but that's going to motivate viewers..such as myself..even more..to watch his fights to see if he can really take it too deeper waters...admittedly...i don't think he can..but he sure is exciting to watch....

roco

Mayhem_J's photo
Mon 10/06/08 04:37 PM

..i disagree, i don't think this is the end for kimbo, rather, i think it will be a new opportunity for him...i'm certain the promoters have an already well thought out plan just for this scenario...they're going to hype this up even more...kimbo's comeback.. kimbo's redemption..so on and so forth...it wouldn't surprise me at the least if he gains even more popularity now....i'm not an expert in martial arts nor am i a pro - kimbo fan...but fighters get flash knockdowns for all sorts of reasons...perhaps he did get caught with an elementary move...but that's going to motivate viewers..such as myself..even more..to watch his fights to see if he can really take it too deeper waters...admittedly...i don't think he can..but he sure is exciting to watch....

roco


Well put....and the guy has gotten his first lost butterflies out of the way as well. If they do this right there will be a rubber match and maybe he might get his redemption.

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Mon 10/06/08 07:31 PM


good example of this is lesner, a big part of his popularity is his wwe background. He got submited by frank mir and he still is a huge draw.

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Mon 10/06/08 09:35 PM
Being a fighter myself, it is easy to identify a seasoned veteran, a natural fighter, and a technical fighter, and kimbo is none of these. He is simply a cut and middle sized fighter, but as far as technique and fight sense, he does not have it. I would not be afraid to step in the ring with him. I may not be a seasoned veteran, but I have enough experience and technical skill backing my natural talent to expose him for the fraud he is. 90% of his gameplan is intimidation, but his inability to counterpunch effectively and mix up his game leaves him vulnerable to many techniques.

If his ass can get a big payday then surely I should be able to get one.

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Mon 10/06/08 09:38 PM
well damn dan, lol. apparently all you gotta do is amke a name knocking out bums and youre in,lol.


honestly i wish you luck i might start training one of these days but i have the frame of a middleweight and the height of a light.lol. ima have to figure something out, 30lbs of muscle? or drop weight like crazy? lol

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