Topic: Joe the Plumber's Problems Get WORSE!
t22learner's photo
Sat 10/18/08 07:44 PM

As usual, only braindeads would miss the point.

Speaking of hate...

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 07:45 PM


As usual, only braindeads would miss the point.

Speaking of hate...


Heavy sigh. As usual.

Thomas27's photo
Sat 10/18/08 07:53 PM
Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 07:59 PM

Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.


He'll be just fine.:wink:

t22learner's photo
Sat 10/18/08 07:59 PM

Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.

He's won 3 debates against your boy McCain, so he speaks just fine.

Thomas27's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:01 PM


Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.

He's won 3 debates against your boy McCain, so he speaks just fine.


Sure he did, just like he's going to win the election by a landslide as well. Keep dreaming.

Thomas27's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:02 PM


Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.


He'll be just fine.:wink:


(((Winx)))waving

t22learner's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:05 PM



Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.

He's won 3 debates against your boy McCain, so he speaks just fine.

Sure he did, just like he's going to win the election by a landslide as well. Keep dreaming.

In my opinion, Sen. McCain did his best in the last debate, still:
"Meanwhile, virtually the entire Frank Luntz focus group on Fox News, which was staged tonight in Miami, said that Barack Obama won the debate. Luntz termed it a "clear majority," but not one person raised their hand when asked if they thought McCain won.

Said Luntz: "None had made a decision to support Sen. Obama before the debate, but more than half supported him after the debate. It was a good night for Barack Obama.""

So, who's dreaming?

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:09 PM



Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.


He'll be just fine.:wink:


(((Winx)))waving


happy waving

Thomas27's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:10 PM




Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.

He's won 3 debates against your boy McCain, so he speaks just fine.

Sure he did, just like he's going to win the election by a landslide as well. Keep dreaming.

In my opinion, Sen. McCain did his best in the last debate, still:
"Meanwhile, virtually the entire Frank Luntz focus group on Fox News, which was staged tonight in Miami, said that Barack Obama won the debate. Luntz termed it a "clear majority," but not one person raised their hand when asked if they thought McCain won.

Said Luntz: "None had made a decision to support Sen. Obama before the debate, but more than half supported him after the debate. It was a good night for Barack Obama.""

So, who's dreaming?


I watched the debate on Fox and saw Luntz in Miami. Half the room didn't raise their hands in support for Obama. Most said they were undecided.


I admit though, I've been having daydreams about night things early in the afternoon.

t22learner's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:17 PM

I admit though, I've been having daydreams about night things early in the afternoon.

lol. Good one.

no photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:28 PM

As usual, only braindeads would miss the point.

The guy was asking the question of raising taxes...I guess he knows what hard times are...like everyone else. (and as the article aludded to)

It's so typical to see this sort of hatred coming from the lunatic left.


You're constantly insulting people, yet whining about the hatred coming from the "lunatic left." How do you miss the hatred you're always spewing?

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:29 PM


As usual, only braindeads would miss the point.

The guy was asking the question of raising taxes...I guess he knows what hard times are...like everyone else. (and as the article aludded to)

It's so typical to see this sort of hatred coming from the lunatic left.


You're constantly insulting people, yet whining about the hatred coming from the "lunatic left." How do you miss the hatred you're always spewing?


frustrated frustrated

Dragoness's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:41 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Sat 10/18/08 08:43 PM

October 17, 2008 - 4:38PM

'Joe the Plumber's' AZ driver license suspended


Daniel Newhauser, For the Mesa Tribune

A plumbing license is not the only license "Joe the Plumber" is having troubles with. The former Mesa resident has a suspended driver's license and outstanding court fines in Arizona, according to Mesa Municipal Court records.

"Joe," whose real name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, was referred to more than 20 times by Republican Sen. John McCain in Wednesday night's presidential debate for questioning Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's tax policy.

The man portrayed by McCain to be the typical, hardworking American revealed this week that he actually does not have a plumbing license, and now court records show he should not have a driver's license either, making it potentially even harder for him to get to work.

Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

America's new political icon, who owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

Nevertheless, Wurzelbacher's driver's license is still valid in Ohio, according to the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles, and was renewed as recently as May 2005. Ohio law requires a license to be renewed every four years, meaning Wurzelbacher likely obtained an Ohio license in 2001, one year after having his Arizona license suspended.

With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.

The only way "Joe the Plumber" could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.

Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license.


laugh I'll bet he wishes he would have stayed off the radar screen. laugh





I know he wishes McCain would not use him as the "average Joe" in all of his speeches and stuff because he is far from it and now everyone, EVERYONE knows it.noway :wink: laugh

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:43 PM
Palin's even talking about him in her speeches.laugh

Thomas27's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:45 PM
As are we.

Winx's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:47 PM

As are we.


She makes us laugh. Laughing is good.

Every time I see that Couric interview, it just cracks me up.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 10/18/08 08:48 PM

Palin's even talking about him in her speeches.laugh


I do feel sorry for him though. He has been fed the right wing hatred drink all his life and when he decides to be "big man" and call a democrat out on the things he was taught, he gets a rude awakening.

I heard all of the right wing rhetoric come from his mouth. And, and he lied on his question to Obama, he cannot buy a company or start his own business. He is barely scrapping by. So he will hurt himself by voting for McCain anyway. It is sad to say the least.

Quikstepper's photo
Sun 10/19/08 06:54 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 10/19/08 06:54 AM

Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.


OooooooHHH You better watch out...the new DEM line to any common sense is to play the race card.

BOO! laugh laugh laugh

no photo
Sun 10/19/08 06:57 AM


Barry can expect to put on the spot more often, if he's elected President. No telling what he might spit out, if nothing is pre written in front of him and answers haven't been rehearsed.


OooooooHHH You better watch out...the new DEM line to any common sense is to play the race card.

BOO! laugh laugh laugh
Wow it seems your the only one on this thread to bring up race..A little racist aye?