oldsage

she forgave me n moved on with her life

but as soon as woman ask why we divorced then its the last time i hear
from them

women sees it once a cheater allways a cheater

they dont look at the man i became since then

they dont see past the cheatin

i guess thats why i will allways be alone

oh i had offers from women sayin if i do this or that then we can try

im not somethin to own or control

wonder how they like it if i try to control them


party on....

two, I guess you didn't read my post to you.

While I may not carry the guilt that you carry, with direction and
seeing what I needed to see, I found what I carried for 30 years. Find
and realize what the root of it all is. From there, you may see all the
weeds that branched out from and grown from that root(the cause)over all
these years and created what is today.

two and jeff, no one can, nor will they want to love you if you can't
love yourself first.

The mirror has two faces. It always has, and always will. The one
looking in. And the one looking back at you.

Not that long ago, I was looking in that mirror, seeing only the face.
Conscience brought my eyes to see who was looking back at me. It was the
eyes that told me I was in trouble.

Life for me has been one mistake after another. I learn from them.
Sooner or later... I hurt,I grow,I recognize.

Forgivness is essential to growth. For not only someone else, but for
ourselves as well.

And since I'm not sure what we are talking about, I will quit now.
Luv ya girl.
Ka

I just have a hard time getting over past mistakes and failures

jeff, we all make mistakes. I posted earlier that someone dear told me
it was ok to make mistakes. But, what isn't ok, is to keep making the
same mistakes expecting different results each time.

I find truth in what many have posted in these threads. OleJebe has an
amazing thread, How To Forgive. Many who know much more than I do and
have experienced what other's are just now finding. Read what other's
have posted for us to see and to understand, is a good place to
start.

jane

yea i read it

but the problem is not me forgivein myself

its others

once a lady ask me why me n my ex divorced i tell them

thats the last i see them

they see it as
once a cheater allways a cheater

they cant see the man i became since

i guess i will allways lonely

but its ok i guess

i got the LORD

what else do i need


party on...

Jane!! Oh Jaaaaaaane...Over here. Lvslife, Kat. Woo hooo.
Kat

my thing is i can forgive others easily.. its myself whom im hardest
on.. i guess i always suspect others of hurting me so i forgive them..
but if i do something to myself its harder

jeff....looking in the mirror, and seeing inside the person looking back
at you is a hard thing to do. I saw that regardless of the guilt you
carry, being hard on yourself and not forgiving will only lead you in
circles.

lol kat.....How nice and surprising to see you here

hi jane. Nxt Thyme reckons god wont dish out more to us than we can
handle. well in my case she is so right ihave to use tweezers to have a
snakes hiss on a cold day,laff laff laff.

Pardon my canuck karizman, lol.....I'm not sure what you said! But I
guess it's the thought that count's.

sorry for your loss bright
i have to say its not just god i know he forgives me but forgiving
yourself is way harder to do the what ifs always run in my mind and
probably allways will . i blamed god for a long time because he let it
happen or was i supposed to do more to stop it . see thats the guilt
that rips you inside everyday this one would be 10 this yr. wonder what
it would have been like to have a child of my own.

great topic Jane!! Indeed i have forgiven myself for what i now call my
'past life'. I did some really baaaaaaaad things in that past life and
for years i was ashamed. Not cheating on my spouse or ex but other
really bad things. My life is good now and i learned how to put
gratitude into my attitude.