Topic: will wal-mart kill us all
catwoman96's photo
Sat 12/06/08 03:32 PM
seems when people tell us we need to buy to stimulate the economy...

we arent stimulating OUR economy.

we are killing our own selfs

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/06/08 03:34 PM
Actually Sam Walton was a good man.If you ask any of the employees who worked for him when Walmart first started ,they will tell you.A lot of them have retired on the stock options alone.His kids are the ones who expanded to fast cause they were greedy..

Winx's photo
Sat 12/06/08 03:37 PM
Edited by Winx on Sat 12/06/08 03:38 PM


Mr. Walton started something great in my city. He paid most of it too.

Our city schools lost their accreditation.

Walton made a financial scholarship program for the low income city children. It's pays $1,500 a year per child to attend a school of their choice. It covers kindergarten through 8th grade.

I think it was offered to 100 children in a lottery. Thousands applied for it.

This also helped the private schools that were losing attendance. The kids are getting a better education.





I remember When John Gotti gave a huge amount of money to help build a childrens hospitol in N.Y.
Everyone loved him for it.
did that make him a good person?


I didn't know Gotti did that. Good person - I don't think so.laugh

Walton wasn't a bad person as far as I know. His kids started messing things up.


Mindsi's photo
Sat 12/06/08 05:23 PM



It seems a lot of people don't like the fact that Walmart sells mostly items made in China.. What about the other things Walmart does.. such as not making it possible for most of it's employees to get health insurance so they are on government assistance for it? plus the average Walmart employee makes $13k a year.. Could they afford it anway? A class action lawsuit by 69,000 employees that were forced to work off the clock without pay...Deleting time from employees time cards.. Class action lawsuits for discrimination against women.. federal allegations it used illegal immigrants to clean its stores.. Right now there is 26,699,678 square feet of empty Walmarts wasting space in the US... Walmart imported $18billion from China in 2004..


Where do you get your info? In Kansas the average Wal-mart associate starts at about $7 an hour. 40 hour week, so that's about $280 a week before taxes. 52 weeks a year, so that's 14560. That's starting. Before taxes, granted, but there's also associates that have been there 10 plus years making 16 to 20 plus an hour. If you want more money make planes or cars. There's not enough margin in retail.

On health insurance, I work for Wal-Mart (as if you haven't guessed yet) and I have a Health savings account through the company that I pay 8 dollars a paycheck to have maintained, I put an additional $40 that the company matches. It goes into an account that earns interest that I can use to pay medical expenses. Once I've paid the deductible with that, the plan pays up to 80% of the other expenses. It's worked pretty good for me. I don't have kids though, so that might change the math a bit.

You do realize that some of those lawsuits are decades old now? Doesn't mean that they didn't happen, but it could mean that there are policies in place to make sure that it doesn't happen any more often than it does in the local grocery store, or Denny's, or Burger King?


I get a little bitter when everyone is happy to bash the place I work because it makes a good target. How many of you have studied sociology or economics? What do you think of it?




There is no way I believe someone working at walmart that isn't a manager or anything is making that much money..
The median pay for a walmart employee being there 10-19 years is $14

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Walmart.com/Hourly_Rate



You don't have to believe me. I know them. And actually the overnight stockers are paid more than the managers. Managers get salary. Stockers are hourly.

no photo
Sat 12/06/08 06:16 PM
Edited by zaphodbebleebrox on Sat 12/06/08 06:25 PM
OKAY MINDSI - here is the problem


I am china - you are america


you come to me and borrow money so you can run your household

i charge you interest on what you borrow from me

you then come to my store and buy products from me and spend the money that i have loaned to you on interest

I AM GETTING YOUR MONEY COMING AND GOING

a nation cannot function if it sends all of its resources
out of the country.

china allows the U.S. government to fucntion by buying
our treasury notes, which the U.S. has to pay interest on. Then we go to wal-mart and buy chinese crap. if you dont see
the problem with that then i dont know what to tell you.

actually a few have mentioned the movie about wal-mart
and i believe the government is going to step in by
declaring wal-mart a monopoly.

it is the only thing that will stop this monster. in communist countries , wal-mart is the perfect store.

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 12/06/08 06:27 PM
Edited by ArtGurl on Sat 12/06/08 06:27 PM

OKAY MINDSI - here is the problem


I am china - you are america


you come to me and borrow money so you can run your household

i charge you interest on what you borrow from me

you then come to my store and buy products from me and spend the money that i have loaned to you on interest

I AM GETTING YOUR MONEY COMING AND GOING

a nation cannot function if it sends all of its resources
out of the country.


actually a few have mentioned the movie about wal-mart
and i believe the government is going to step in by
declaring wal-mart a monopoly.

it is the only thing that will stop this monster. in communist countries , wal-mart is the perfect store.



True and this is so much bigger than Wal-Mart ...

it is about what has become an acceptable way to do business ...

it is about everyday people trying to make ends meet...

it is about a culture of consumerism...

it is about a government that keeps selling you out to foreign countries as a way to balance the books...

it is no longer about the American dream and the American people ...

fundamental changes in attitude are necessary at all levels ...

martymark's photo
Sat 12/06/08 06:34 PM


OKAY MINDSI - here is the problem


I am china - you are america


you come to me and borrow money so you can run your household

i charge you interest on what you borrow from me

you then come to my store and buy products from me and spend the money that i have loaned to you on interest

I AM GETTING YOUR MONEY COMING AND GOING

a nation cannot function if it sends all of its resources
out of the country.


actually a few have mentioned the movie about wal-mart
and i believe the government is going to step in by
declaring wal-mart a monopoly.

it is the only thing that will stop this monster. in communist countries , wal-mart is the perfect store.



True and this is so much bigger than Wal-Mart ...

it is about what has become an acceptable way to do business ...

it is about everyday people trying to make ends meet...

it is about a culture of consumerism...

it is about a government that keeps selling you out to foreign countries as a way to balance the books...

it is no longer about the American dream and the American people ...

fundamental changes in attitude are necessary at all levels ...
what she said in that last linefrustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated smokin

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 12/06/08 06:37 PM



OKAY MINDSI - here is the problem


I am china - you are america


you come to me and borrow money so you can run your household

i charge you interest on what you borrow from me

you then come to my store and buy products from me and spend the money that i have loaned to you on interest

I AM GETTING YOUR MONEY COMING AND GOING

a nation cannot function if it sends all of its resources
out of the country.


actually a few have mentioned the movie about wal-mart
and i believe the government is going to step in by
declaring wal-mart a monopoly.

it is the only thing that will stop this monster. in communist countries , wal-mart is the perfect store.



True and this is so much bigger than Wal-Mart ...

it is about what has become an acceptable way to do business ...

it is about everyday people trying to make ends meet...

it is about a culture of consumerism...

it is about a government that keeps selling you out to foreign countries as a way to balance the books...

it is no longer about the American dream and the American people ...

fundamental changes in attitude are necessary at all levels ...
what she said in that last linefrustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated smokin



do you not think so?

lanne's photo
Sat 12/06/08 06:48 PM
I thought that wayback years ago,when Wal-Mart started they were awesome!But,as Sam Walton past away,things changed big time!They have completely changed there policy.I mean in a BAD way.I could go on and on,but I think you all know what I mean?Wal-Mart now is built on greed,and is soooo shameful,that I hate to go into the store[only if I have to],let alone drive by it.I think Sam would turn over in his grave!!!!:cry:

Mindsi's photo
Sat 12/06/08 06:54 PM

OKAY MINDSI - here is the problem


I am china - you are america


you come to me and borrow money so you can run your household

i charge you interest on what you borrow from me

you then come to my store and buy products from me and spend the money that i have loaned to you on interest

I AM GETTING YOUR MONEY COMING AND GOING

a nation cannot function if it sends all of its resources
out of the country.

china allows the U.S. government to fucntion by buying
our treasury notes, which the U.S. has to pay interest on. Then we go to wal-mart and buy chinese crap. if you dont see
the problem with that then i dont know what to tell you.

actually a few have mentioned the movie about wal-mart
and i believe the government is going to step in by
declaring wal-mart a monopoly.

it is the only thing that will stop this monster. in communist countries , wal-mart is the perfect store.


So when you've slain the great beast wal-mart are you going to go after Target and Kmart and sears who get there stuff from china as well?

Americans can't manufacture stuff cheaply enough that Americans can afford them. This includes the cost of shipping things over here and tariffs that have to be paid on imports when they come in. This is Wal-Mart's fault?

miranda3's photo
Sat 12/06/08 08:37 PM


Don't shop Wal-Mart.

You can buy lotsa cheap $hit from China or a few quality things from elsewhere. You can do without so much stuff too...really you can.

Personal responsibility...Wal-Mart isn't killing us we are.


This is the most true statement of all. Most of what we buy is junk and totally unnecessary.


Amen. I weep when I see a story like the WalMart employee who was killed on Black Friday. Apparently, it WAS worth his life, in some people's opinions, for them to be able to save a buck on cheap, mostly ugly, useless garbage.

Honestly, I want to die and pull the dirt over me when I see the evidence of how hypnotized this country is by greed for material things. Nothing means anything any more, next to that.

thePatriot's photo
Sat 12/06/08 09:45 PM

to grocery shop at walmart...most food products are american made.


its everything else we should boycott, not jsut walmart.

. victoria secrets:cry:


so dose that mean all you ladies well be panty less?

miranda3's photo
Sat 12/06/08 10:05 PM

to grocery shop at walmart...most food products are american made.


its everything else we should boycott, not jsut walmart.

best buy. kohls. cirfcuit city. meijers. victoria secrets:cry: macys sears probably even home depot.
yup


Well, Victoria's Secret more than anything. They make American women look like sluts!

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 12/07/08 02:41 PM


to grocery shop at walmart...most food products are american made.


its everything else we should boycott, not jsut walmart.

best buy. kohls. cirfcuit city. meijers. victoria secrets:cry: macys sears probably even home depot.
yup


Well, Victoria's Secret more than anything. They make American women look like sluts!

Excuse me?I wear my undies under my clothes and i see nothing wrong with a little lacy something.Looking sexy does not equate with slut.

SamaraNJ's photo
Sun 12/07/08 02:47 PM



to grocery shop at walmart...most food products are american made.


its everything else we should boycott, not jsut walmart.

best buy. kohls. cirfcuit city. meijers. victoria secrets:cry: macys sears probably even home depot.
yup


Well, Victoria's Secret more than anything. They make American women look like sluts!

Excuse me?I wear my undies under my clothes and i see nothing wrong with a little lacy something.Looking sexy does not equate with slut.


Im sure the men would agree that VS is a great thing...
and I think it feels good to have a nice set on.. even if no one sees through my clothes...

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 12/07/08 02:48 PM




to grocery shop at walmart...most food products are american made.


its everything else we should boycott, not jsut walmart.

best buy. kohls. cirfcuit city. meijers. victoria secrets:cry: macys sears probably even home depot.
yup


Well, Victoria's Secret more than anything. They make American women look like sluts!

Excuse me?I wear my undies under my clothes and i see nothing wrong with a little lacy something.Looking sexy does not equate with slut.


Im sure the men would agree that VS is a great thing...
and I think it feels good to have a nice set on.. even if no one sees through my clothes...


exactly .

 ☮️ Coolchic Dee 💟's photo
Sun 12/07/08 02:53 PM

with our government debt being propped-up by chinese investors
(chinese buy majority of U.S. treasury bonds)thus putting us
seriously into debt with the Chinese.

Then we go to Wal-Mart and buy Chinese crap, We are paying
interest to China, while sending our money to China at the same time.

EXAMPLE - If i opened a store, but you had to borrow money from
me to purchase anything in my store, I would have the dream situation.

I URGE EVERYONE TO AVOID WAL-MART LIKE THE PLAGUE IT IS.

AM I WRONG ?








I AGREE!!!

miranda3's photo
Sun 12/07/08 03:15 PM



to grocery shop at walmart...most food products are american made.


its everything else we should boycott, not jsut walmart.

best buy. kohls. cirfcuit city. meijers. victoria secrets:cry: macys sears probably even home depot.
yup


Well, Victoria's Secret more than anything. They make American women look like sluts!

Excuse me?I wear my undies under my clothes and i see nothing wrong with a little lacy something.Looking sexy does not equate with slut.


Exactly! You don't take off your clothing and parade up and down a runway in your lacy little somethings. On TV! In prime time. Wearing Angel wings! (What does this tell those who think Americans are absolutely Godless heathens?)

I've known many young male Arab students who actually believed that those lacy little somethings were going to be lined up waiting for them, on blonde prostitutes, as they stepped off the plane in every American airport.

Victoria's Secret, and their customers, can have their lacy little somethings as long as they keep their (softcore) pornography out of my face.

Do you have children? Do you enjoy it when they walk down the mall and see huge photos of the kind they have in the windows of the VS store?

SamaraNJ's photo
Sun 12/07/08 03:26 PM




to grocery shop at walmart...most food products are american made.


its everything else we should boycott, not jsut walmart.

best buy. kohls. cirfcuit city. meijers. victoria secrets:cry: macys sears probably even home depot.
yup


Well, Victoria's Secret more than anything. They make American women look like sluts!

Excuse me?I wear my undies under my clothes and i see nothing wrong with a little lacy something.Looking sexy does not equate with slut.


Exactly! You don't take off your clothing and parade up and down a runway in your lacy little somethings. On TV! In prime time. Wearing Angel wings! (What does this tell those who think Americans are absolutely Godless heathens?)

I've known many young male Arab students who actually believed that those lacy little somethings were going to be lined up waiting for them, on blonde prostitutes, as they stepped off the plane in every American airport.

Victoria's Secret, and their customers, can have their lacy little somethings as long as they keep their (softcore) pornography out of my face.

Do you have children? Do you enjoy it when they walk down the mall and see huge photos of the kind they have in the windows of the VS store?


So are they just evil cause they are lace?
Because if they were wearing bikinis in those posters it would be covering just as much.. do you stay clear from the beach also?

And it's not Victoria Secrets fault that some Arab kid watches a TV program and thinks a WHOLE COUNTRY and all the people in it are that way...

miranda3's photo
Sun 12/07/08 04:02 PM





to grocery shop at walmart...most food products are american made.


its everything else we should boycott, not jsut walmart.

best buy. kohls. cirfcuit city. meijers. victoria secrets:cry: macys sears probably even home depot.
yup


Well, Victoria's Secret more than anything. They make American women look like sluts!

Excuse me?I wear my undies under my clothes and i see nothing wrong with a little lacy something.Looking sexy does not equate with slut.


Exactly! You don't take off your clothing and parade up and down a runway in your lacy little somethings. On TV! In prime time. Wearing Angel wings! (What does this tell those who think Americans are absolutely Godless heathens?)

I've known many young male Arab students who actually believed that those lacy little somethings were going to be lined up waiting for them, on blonde prostitutes, as they stepped off the plane in every American airport.

Victoria's Secret, and their customers, can have their lacy little somethings as long as they keep their (softcore) pornography out of my face.

Do you have children? Do you enjoy it when they walk down the mall and see huge photos of the kind they have in the windows of the VS store?


So are they just evil cause they are lace?
Because if they were wearing bikinis in those posters it would be covering just as much.. do you stay clear from the beach also?

And it's not Victoria Secrets fault that some Arab kid watches a TV program and thinks a WHOLE COUNTRY and all the people in it are that way...


*sigh*