I bow before his greatness

...hey you...question ?...has all this redundant anti Israel middle east...2000 years ago back and forth...about run it's course ?...in my opinion...it's killed this board...how have you been ?...

yes it has killed this board.I am fine ,how are you?

doin' well...I agree...you just keep beating a dead horse...over and over and over again...on this subject...on this board...to defend Israel...is a losing proposition...

I quit and will stay out of Israel threads....though it's nice to see you here.

it's always good to see you too...ummmm...were you and Fanta once husband and wife ?....lol...just kiddin'...

I think I'll heed that advice...let me jot that down on my Yellow note pad..." stay out of Israel threads "...duly noted...

"Verry simplistic and off target. Who said I voted for them? and when they were running for office did they say they planned to violate international law? of course not. I did sign the petition to impeach Bush by the way to no effect. Are you suggesting "gasp" I become a terrorist since I have no other means to address the issues? I realy do not even think your comments were worthy of a reply but it may get interesting eventualy"


Your inability to perceive things from the bigger picture was anticipated. I'll try to simpify things even further for you. IF you live in the US, ANYTHING that you do here (career/collecting welfare, paying taxes, purchasing goods and services) as a citizen- contributes to the actions you are so opposed to. On the flipside, they also contibute to your failed socialistic experiments/beliefs (which I did not sign off on either, nor supported/voted for politicians who do/did). That is called "reality". No matter who you voted for (if you voted), those elected still represent you, regardless if you agree with them or not. Liberal myopic selectivism, typical of your breed. Obviously you aren't familiar with a little obsolete term called "sedition" either. Was it not the liberal enviormentalists who suggested those who purchased SUV's were supporting terrorists as well? As they say "What's good for the goose...".

There's no shame in you admitting you're guilty of crimes against humanity as being part of one of, if not the biggest terrorist organization in the world according to socialist liberals. You reap the benefits of this terrorist organization every single day. The same farmers that feed these American "terrorists"... feed you. The same terrorists that provide you with everything you have... including safety and security from those who would rather chop off your head than to look at you twice (just ask the late Daniel Pearl).

"Are you suggesting "gasp" I become a terrorist since I have no other means to address the issues?". Not become one, you are one already by your residency in the US and funding your fellow terrorists. Granted, you're not quite Bill Ayres caliber when it comes to addressing issues you disagree with, yet, or that I am aware of. That crushing weight you feel is the weight of your own hypocrisy and double standards collapsing upon you and your ilk.

Thank you for your kind considerations and deeming my post worthy of your reply, I'm touched and honored.



I am greatly amused at your off topic rant thanks for the

thats it!!...round #2 BeeOrganic...talk about a " slaughter "...hmmmmm ***where have I heard that word before***...

Oh please. His entire argument is laughable. How would I as an average "JOe" have any idea my government would secretly sell drugs to finance the contra terrorists, it was after all top secret stuff. Is it real my fault? shame on me for paying my taxes to support this. however congress did cut the funding as stated in the thread to them so my money was not used to finance the contra terrorists it was the drugs/missle deals, Realy its grade school level stuff hardly worthy of any meaningfull responce beyond entertainment.

snork!!

By that logic then, everyone is responsible for everything. Fire at will.

BTW, this is how gangs and socialists organize. Centralize the profits, decentralize the responsibility.

In July 1985, President Reagan denounced Iran as part of a "confederation of terrorist states" which had committed "outright acts of war" against the U.S. He declared Iran to be an enemy of the United States:


"Iran, Libya, North Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua -- continents away, tens of thousands of miles apart, but the same goals and objectives. I submit to you that the growth in terrorism in recent years results from the increasing involvement of these states in terrorism in every region of the world. This is terrorism that is part of a pattern, the work of a confederation of terrorist states. Most of the terrorists who are kidnapping and murdering American citizens and attacking American installations are being trained, financed, and directly or indirectly controlled by a core group of radical and totalitarian governments -- a new, international version of Murder, Incorporated. And all of these states are united by one simple criminal phenomenon -- their fanatical hatred of the United States, our people, our way of life, our international stature."
And yet only 39 days after making that speech, Reagan's men began furnishing some of these fanatical America haters with what would eventually amount to 107 tons of anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles. These shipments continued for more than a year. They even continued beyond August 1986, when President Reagan signed into law a federal ban on arms sales to terrorist nations, which included Iran.

That's how he committed treason. But if Ronald Reagan's a traitor, he also had a whole bunch of accomplices. Like his Vice President, George HW Bush. But thanks to some convenient Presidential pardons, everybody got away scot-free.

http://www.rotten.com/library/history/political-scandal/iran-contra/

During WWII the German People were silent. Allowing the Nazi's to commit genocide against the Jews, Russians, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and such without saying a word. In fact they even made excuses for allowing it and not getting involved. They went about their daily lives and were happy, feeling privileged that they were not bothered with it all! They were not targeted after all!
When the concentration camps were discovered by Allied soldiers they went into the local villages to recruit grave diggers. Villages which bordered the camps and of which the residents must have known. When they did the residents still denied knowing and many felt insulted that they should be required to bury the bodies.
Complacency! That is what I see three people here committing, and even though those Germans were not prosecuted for their in-actions, I think they and you three are just as guilty as those who commit the atrocities.
Not Madman who so righteously speaks out against them while doing so makes him the butt of your uninformed and complacent shame!

Live with your shame sheep!
BAaaaaa,,BAaaaaaaa.......

Round two!!! FANTA!!!!

Nevermind that the Contra affair runs hand in hand with the CIA providing "FreeWay" Ricky Ross with millions in Coke which he turned into crack, creating the Crack scourge which hit epidemic levels and hasn't backed down since, contrary to the pathetic attempts of the "war" on drugs.

Ok "average JOe". You have no idea what your government does secretly, join the club Einstein... neither do I and most likely everyone here. I'll try this from a different angle then to perhaps enlighten you by shrinking the geographic playing field and providing an analogy you may more readily comprehend. You know openly that the city of your namesake ("Madison", I'm going to assume Wisconsin)is a "sanctuary city" for harboring illegal aliens. Openly breaking federal law. EVERY crime committed against a US citizen by an illegal alien there is due to YOUR elected officials who represent YOU (regardless if you support this illegal policy or not). Last I checked, Wisconsin is still a part of the US.

If you want to selectively pick a topic that furthers your "attempt to make conservatives/republicans look bad" agenda, that's your perogative. It only exposes your own socialist hypocrisy further.

On a more personal note as per your "Realy its grade school level stuff hardly worthy of any meaningfull responce beyond entertainment." comment. Not that I was ever was a spelling bee champion and commit my share of typographical errors; However, I will agree with you about one thing- something is grade school level here in this dialogue. I should be demanding an apology from the Madison teachers union at very least.

round #3 is on...MadMan...you're up !!...and...on the clock...

Have you ever been in a position where you actually saw the things the Sandunistas did...

sometimes terrorists are needed to stop a larger and much more nasty organization...

elections at the point of a gun are not reflective of the true will of the people...

hamas taking over gaza in 2007...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtsvjB8efKE

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgCYkzLWFrk&feature=related