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Topic: More Stripping in the News
Lynann's photo
Sat 01/17/09 08:42 AM
Dunno about you but I would be pretty pissed if some school official strip searched my kid over Advil.

Justices to rule on school strip search
January 17, 2009

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court said yesterday that it will review whether a strip search for prescription-strength Ibuprofen violated a 13-year-old Arizona student's constitutional rights.

The justices said they will hear arguments in April. The court also will consider whether, even if it upholds an appeals court decision that the girl was subjected to an unconstitutional search, a school vice principal is financially liable for damages.

Last year, the federal appeals court in San Francisco ruled, 8 to 3, in favor of Savana Redding, who was subjected to the strip search based on a classmate's uncorroborated accusation that she was hiding the pills. The court split, 6 to 5, in favor of allowing her to sue the school official who ordered the search.

Redding was an eighth-grade student at the Safford Middle School in Safford, Ariz., when she was ordered to the school nurse's office and searched. No pills were found. School officials contend that the search was reasonable because pills had been found on campus and another student linked them to Redding.

Officials said they were justifiably anxious because in an earlier incident, a student had to be hospitalized after taking a prescription drug he had been given by a classmate.

But the US Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit called Redding's ordeal "a grossly intrusive search of a middle-school girl to locate pills with the potency of two over-the-counter Advil capsules."

The court found that the vice principal, Kerry Wilson, is liable for damages and ordered a federal magistrate to determine the amount.

Earlier, a three-judge panel of the appeals court ruled, 2 to 1, that the search was constitutional, upholding the magistrate's dismissal of Redding's civil rights lawsuit.

ASSOCIATED PRESS

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Sat 01/17/09 08:52 AM
Edited by littleredhen on Sat 01/17/09 08:57 AM
Our children are being raised to accept lack of privacy & total submission to authority figures. My kid would not have allowed this, she would have raised such a fuss they would have needed 4 big men & a soundproof room, & when Momma arrived, LOOKOUT!

Lynann's photo
Sat 01/17/09 09:00 AM
Littlered I agree.

We are now raising a generation of children who will believe that it is completely normal to be subjected to constant video monitoring as well.

Makes me want to puke.

Giocamo's photo
Sat 01/17/09 09:13 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sat 01/17/09 09:14 AM

Littlered I agree.

We are now raising a generation of children who will believe that it is completely normal to be subjected to constant video monitoring as well.

Makes me want to puke.


what are friends for (.)(.)




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Sat 01/17/09 09:18 AM

Littlered I agree.

We are now raising a generation of children who will believe that it is completely normal to be subjected to constant video monitoring as well.

Makes me want to puke.



My daughter & I had this discussion after Columbine. I told her if she ever felt she was in danger at school she was to LEAVE, go to the nearest phone & call me. I told her to trust her own judgement about where she is safest. I'd rather have her suspended than in danger. She knew I'd back her up.

You would not believe the fire drills where I work! They have the herd trained to head down a hall, away from the nearest exit, past 2 rooms full of chemicals, pass 2 more exits & all go through the same double door at the end of the hall. I head in the opposite direction, get out, walk around the OUTSIDE of the building & meet them in the parking lot.

They are worried about people falling out back because it's not shoveled & salted. SCREW THAT! I am getting out of the building! I am not being crushed at that designated exit, I am not staying in a building with cyanide or smoke. People are getting STUPID!

HasidicEnforcer's photo
Sat 01/17/09 10:43 AM
I believe Americans are being trained to become Lemmings.

The government uses the Terror Alert Color Charts and repeatedly uses 9/11 to scare us into submission.

Makes me wonder...

Giocamo's photo
Sat 01/17/09 10:45 AM
have our prayers been doing their job in regards to your daughter ?...waving

SkyHook5652's photo
Sat 01/17/09 11:41 AM
To me, the most insane thing about this situation is that if the child had been found dead from an overdoes of some drug, the school would likely have been sued for not doing the strip search.

This obsession with blaming anyone and everyone but ourselves for our troubles cannot ever result in true justice. It only results in trying to manipulate the justice system into being a tool of vengeance.

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Sat 01/17/09 11:43 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sat 01/17/09 11:43 AM
on one hand they were looking for prescription strength drugs and the child was linked to them

on the other hand NO one has my permission to strip search my child without my prior consent

Lynann's photo
Sat 01/17/09 11:48 AM
They were looking for Advil!

Peanuts are dangerous too to some.

Guess they should be able to strip search a kid for those too.

damnitscloudy's photo
Sat 01/17/09 12:01 PM
Damnit i clicked the thread and thought it would be about strippers, but NO! its a serious news story about a kid being stripped searched AND NO STRIPPERS!

Lyann, i cannot trust you anymore :cry: :tongue:

HasidicEnforcer's photo
Sat 01/17/09 12:49 PM

have our prayers been doing their job in regards to your daughter ?...waving


yes, she is safe, thank you.


Right now I get to hear about the pleasant things a mommy wants to hear, she has a wiggly tooth. biggrin

Winx's photo
Sat 01/17/09 01:38 PM
I wouldn't want that to happen to my child. I'd be furious.

I do wonder why they didn't call the parents to have them present for the search. They makes it even more worse in my eyes.

TheLastNiceGuy's photo
Sat 01/17/09 04:45 PM
The least they could have done was have the parents notified and asked if it was ok. and if it werent ok they could have set it up for the parent to come pick them up...

In my high school days if a teacher tried to strip search me I would have busted their mouth. and if someone strip searched my sister they would have been busted up too.

It is amazing how much the whole terror thing makes people listen to suspected authority figures. But this isnt o new thing by any means.

Look up the milgram experiment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Most people pretty much need someone to lead them. It is up to the parents to teach their children to be free thinking. And its sad but most people who are free thinking arent accepted into society by regular means.

Lynann's photo
Sat 01/17/09 06:03 PM
Don't get me wrong...I don't think kids should be unaccountable.

Like the last poster said...give the parents a chance to come in. Some will counter rightfully that parents might not step up or worse might not care to show up. I won't argue that many parents abdicate parental responsibility and then cry foul when other adults step in. We all know it happens.

So, here's what I think would be right in this situation. Physically supervise the child, call in the parents and then have an officer of the same sex conduct a search of it is deemed necessary.

Opening the door to allow school officials to strip search children at their discretion based on hearsay or random observations is...well scary.

Winx's photo
Sat 01/17/09 06:11 PM

Don't get me wrong...I don't think kids should be unaccountable.

Like the last poster said...give the parents a chance to come in. Some will counter rightfully that parents might not step up or worse might not care to show up. I won't argue that many parents abdicate parental responsibility and then cry foul when other adults step in. We all know it happens.

So, here's what I think would be right in this situation. Physically supervise the child, call in the parents and then have an officer of the same sex conduct a search of it is deemed necessary.

Opening the door to allow school officials to strip search children at their discretion based on hearsay or random observations is...well scary.


It is scary. :angry:

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Sat 01/17/09 06:23 PM
Edited by littleredhen on Sat 01/17/09 06:26 PM

Don't get me wrong...I don't think kids should be unaccountable.

Like the last poster said...give the parents a chance to come in. Some will counter rightfully that parents might not step up or worse might not care to show up. I won't argue that many parents abdicate parental responsibility and then cry foul when other adults step in. We all know it happens.

So, here's what I think would be right in this situation. Physically supervise the child, call in the parents and then have an officer of the same sex conduct a search of it is deemed necessary.

Opening the door to allow school officials to strip search children at their discretion based on hearsay or random observations is...well scary.


I can't see that happening to my kid, she was writing letters to the editor & speaking at a county commisoner's meeting at 10. They wouldn't DARE do that to her, because they know she & I would NEVER let it go. She told me her teachers were afraid of me. She's only 26 now & editing for the Baltimore Sun.

Winx's photo
Sat 01/17/09 06:59 PM


Don't get me wrong...I don't think kids should be unaccountable.

Like the last poster said...give the parents a chance to come in. Some will counter rightfully that parents might not step up or worse might not care to show up. I won't argue that many parents abdicate parental responsibility and then cry foul when other adults step in. We all know it happens.

So, here's what I think would be right in this situation. Physically supervise the child, call in the parents and then have an officer of the same sex conduct a search of it is deemed necessary.

Opening the door to allow school officials to strip search children at their discretion based on hearsay or random observations is...well scary.


I can't see that happening to my kid, she was writing letters to the editor & speaking at a county commisoner's meeting at 10. They wouldn't DARE do that to her, because they know she & I would NEVER let it go. She told me her teachers were afraid of me. She's only 26 now & editing for the Baltimore Sun.


drinker

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 01/17/09 07:09 PM
I would be down there and kicking someone's butt.

Thomas3474's photo
Mon 01/19/09 01:12 AM
How about the priciple of the high school making girls lift their dresses up checking for thongs?You think it can't happen?Think again.

...Teal's daughter made it in and claims to have witnessed faculty lifting the skirts of girls to assure that the offending underwear was going nowhere near the dance floor."Well, I just saw ... a line of people and the vice principal, Mrs. Wilson, she was checking to see what the girls were wearing under their dresses. And she was literally lifting up their skirts and embarrassing them in front of everyone else," one student told KGTV...


http://www.clickorlando.com/sh/education/stories/education-142540820020430-080452.html

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