Topic: Hidden Messages in the Bible...
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Mon 01/19/09 04:44 PM
I'm sure some of you already know this, but the Bible is full of hidden messages. The one that always comes to my mind is that the story of Jesus is told early on in Genesis.

Genesis 5 has the genealogy from Adam to Noah, but when you translate what each name means, you find something interesting.


Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enosh - Mortal
Kenan - Sorrow;
Mahalalel - The Blessed God
Jared - Shall come down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah - His death shall bring
Lamech - The Despairing
Noah - Rest, or comfort.

Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the Blessed God shall come down teaching; His death shall bring (the) despairing rest.

Read more here: http://www.khouse.org/articles/1996/44/

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Mon 01/19/09 05:19 PM
I am not sure I buy all that. But I may, at some point, check out the article.

Sometimes we have a tendency to read more into the Word of God than what is really there. The truth of the word is actually quite simple. So simple in fact that we often have to have someone help us to misunderstand it.

The point you were making is one of Jesus being hidden in the early chapters of Genesis. Actualy, Jesus is revealed rather openly not only in Genesis, but throuthout the entire Old Testament. The Old testament itself is only a type and shadow of the real thing, which is Christ.

Jesus Himself said this in John 5:39
"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

All scripture points to Jesus.

Think about this, Jesus said, "I am the light of the world", right? So when God said, "let there be light", was he speaking of Jesus?

And consider Genesis 1:26
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. "

Let "us"? In "our image"? Who would you suggest God was takling to?

In the beggining was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God! And, the Word became flesh and dwelt among us!

My friend, please do not take my reply the wrong way. There may in fact be some truth behind the idea you presented from the link you provided. But what I am saying is that we do not have to look for some secret hidden message or buy a limited edition decoder ring to understand that Jesus existed in the very beginning and that through Him and by Him all things now exist.

He is the same yesterday(creation). Today(this realm) and forever (The new earth)!

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Mon 01/19/09 05:26 PM
Oh, I agree. The Jews insist that the first mention of the Messiah is Genesis 1:2 (Let there be light), so you are right that some believe that. I don't know that I believe that, because John wrote "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning." It would seem to me that if God created Jesus on the first day, that John wouldn't have been accurate.

But I have taken a course on Christology, so I know that Jesus is referenced throughout the Old Testament. But that doesn't take away from the fact that God included messages within the text for his believers to find.

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Mon 01/19/09 05:31 PM
okay...


Now I have more studying to go do...


Hopefully I'll be back soon when I have an intelligent question to ask or something to contribute.

You guys keep me soooo busy...

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Mon 01/19/09 08:47 PM
I took a Bible study class in 2002 where we researched the names in the OT. It was one of the most interesting classes that I had ever taken and have thought about it several times over the years. Every name has meaning behind it (even the town names) and points to something in the Word whether it is an event, a person, or the Messiah. It was the meat of the Word and a lot to chew on(I had only been born again 2 years)…makes me want to find those old notes! Thanks for posting this.


Evidence of Design

The implications of this discovery are more wide spread than is evident at first glance.

It demonstrates that in the earliest chapters of the Book of Genesis, God had already laid out His plan of redemption for the predicament of mankind. It is a love story, written in blood on a wooden cross which was erected in Judea almost 2,000 years ago.

The Bible is an integrated message system, the product of supernatural engineering. Every number, every place name, every detail every jot and title is there for our learning, our discovery, and our amazement. Truly, our God is an awesome God.

It is astonishing to discover how many Biblical controversies seem to evaporate if one simply recognized the unity the integrity of these 66 books, penned by 40 authors over thousands of years.

It is remarkable how many subtle discoveries lie behind the little details of the text. Some of these become immediately obvious with a little study; some are more technical and require special helps.



Spider, I am interested in what you think about the possibility of the Bible Code. I have heard that a lot of the world events are inscripted in the Bible from every President to the Twin Towers and beyond. Also, that the first codes in each of the 5 books of the Torah point to Jehovah God.

Genesis – Torah
Exodus – Torah
Leviticus – Jehovah God
Numbers – harot
Deuteronomy – harot

What are any of your thoughts on this?

flowerforyou

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Mon 01/19/09 10:52 PM

Oh, I agree. The Jews insist that the first mention of the Messiah is Genesis 1:2 (Let there be light), so you are right that some believe that. I don't know that I believe that, because John wrote "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning." It would seem to me that if God created Jesus on the first day, that John wouldn't have been accurate.

But I have taken a course on Christology, so I know that Jesus is referenced throughout the Old Testament. But that doesn't take away from the fact that God included messages within the text for his believers to find.



flowerforyou

I took a look at that site, I shall need to look into it further, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

There is always something new to learn every time we look at the scriptures.


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Tue 01/03/12 06:24 PM
The Bible states that we are to study to show ourselves approved, subsequently; THERE ARE NO MYSTERIES IN GOD'S WORD...:tongue:

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Wed 01/04/12 02:27 AM
Edited by CeriseRose on Wed 01/04/12 02:34 AM

The Bible states that we are to study to show ourselves approved, subsequently; THERE ARE NO MYSTERIES IN GOD'S WORD...:tongue:



Welcome to the Christian Singles Forum, doc!

Interesting topic you mentioned.

The "Mysteries in God's Word".

But there ARE mysteries in the scriptures which are only understood by Spiritual revelation.


Jesus told His disciples:


..." Unto you it is given

to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God:

but to others in parables;

that seeing they might not see,

and hearing they might not understand."


Luk_8:10



The Apostle Paul and others taught the believers/Church the mysteries of the kingdom:


Rom_11:25, For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom_16:25, Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

1Co_2:7, But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

1Co_15:51, Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

Eph_1:9, Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

Eph_3:3, How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

Eph_3:4, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Eph_3:9, And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Eph_5:32, This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Eph_6:19, And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

Col_1:26, Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Col_1:27, To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Col_2:2, That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

Col_4:3, Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:

2Th_2:7, For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

1Ti_3:9, Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

1Ti_3:16, And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Rev_1:20, The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Rev_10:7, But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Rev_17:5, And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Rev_17:7, And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.