This topic is posted for anyone who would like to see Iran get the bomb.
It is an excerpt from an interesting article and I've included a link to
the whole thing, which is much more complex than just the excerpt.

If anyone has comments on this I'd be interested in hearing them.

"The following is adapted from a speech delivered on February 13, 2007,
in Fort Myers, Florida, at a Hillsdale College National Leadership
Seminar on the topic, “National Security: Short- and Long-Term
Assessments.”

“The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The
outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land.
As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map.” So rants Iran’s
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

It is understandable why Ahmadinejad might want an arsenal of nuclear
missiles. It would allow him to shake down a constant stream of rich
European emissaries, pressure the Arab Gulf states to lower oil
production, pose as the Persian and Shiite messianic leader of Islamic
terrorists, neutralize the influence of the United States in the
region—and, of course, destroy Israel. Let no one doubt that a nuclear
Iran would end the entire notion of peaceful global adjudication of
nuclear proliferation and pose an unending threat to civilization
itself."

End of excerpt... here is the link if you want to ready the whole thing.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823904/posts

maybe we should just have world wide nuk sites all around the world say
every 1000sq miles

in this area set aside an area

and every country that has nuks sets up a silo with a multiple
warhead on it

then if one has an itchy trigger finger they are in range of everyone
else

and then when it happens it will only be a short period of suffering and
misory

instead of maybe a couple degades b4 the anilation actually happens

hey it is a thought

no matter how stupid it is
at least its an idea

better than no idea

even if it just scare some into thinking

but hey what do i know

I don’t know what the answer is, but do we really want to live in a
world where we invade every country that we think might be a threat?

Where does the paranoia stop?

it doesn't thats the point

invade other countries no...i'm tired of the fighting...but do we want
nukes in the hands of leaders who will no doubt use them?

let me see

hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm

who has used them in the past

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmm

i wonder

do we want them in the hands of those that

have prolonged a war just to get to use them

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

who would that be?

Adj4u your post confuses me

the only country to use them

was the united states

and truman has been accused of extending wwII
to use them to intimadate the world powers with them

Yes the United States used them to end the war that we were losing I
believe. Accusations always fly during conflict, that was the 1st and
last time nukes were used.

if you think united states was losing maybe a history
read is in order

japan tried to surrender when the soviets invaded manchura

and truman would not let them

not sure of the exact ordre of events

but was on either history channel or discovery

that truman wanted to use the atomic blast to put fear
in the minds of those that would oppose the united states

I have read the history...never have i heard anything of the sort. We
did not even want to enter that war...until we were attacked by Japan.

adj4u wrote:
“and truman has been accused of extending wwII
to use them to intimadate the world powers with them”

Yes, I listened to a program about that some time ago. It’s sad but
certainly appears to be true. We had virtually won the war against
Japan, and Japan was actually negotiating their surrender. There are
records that indicated that Truman purposefully held up the negotiations
for the sole purpose dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The
reason he wanted to drop them was to intimidate the Russians (Soviets
U.S.S.R.)

I don’t know whether it’s historically true, but the show was very
convincing. If it is true that’s unbelievably depressing to think that
a human being who held the position of president of a free country could
actually drop atomic bombs on people just to intimidate another country.
It’s unfathomable for me to even imagine that. Yet the report was very
convincing.

And no, we definitely weren’t losing the war with Japan! Like adj4u
said, the Japanese were negotiating surrender and Truman was stalling
them for political reasons associated with Russia (the Soviets at that
time, the U.S.S.R)

http://www.centurychina.com/wiihist/hiroshima/ytruman.htm

I don't place any confidence in anything i read from the past simply
because people like to twist things around to suit themselves but theres
a link to what i've found on it.

and yes I was wrong about the U.S losing to Japan...we were apparently
losing but I still feel we were justified in dropping the bombs. I had
family that were in some of their concentration camps....horrible what i
was told about it.

Steve wrote:
“I don't place any confidence in anything i read from the past simply
because people like to twist things around to suit themselves but theres
a link to what i've found on it.”

Well, presidents themselves like to twist things around to suit
themselves. And those are the things that actually get recorded into
history as the ‘official record’. So I’m sure that Truman’s story is
not going to say that he was stalling a surrender just to drop the
A-bomb.

Here’s snippet from the site you provided a link to”
“This is what the Americans President Truman, Secretary of War Stimson
and Gen. Marshall knew the day before the first atom bomb fell on Japan.
Confronted by an enemy leadership that was self-deluded, neither
prepared to surrender nor to negotiate seriously, the Americans decided
that the only way to end the war quickly would be to use overwhelming
force: nuclear weapons.”

So the official story is that the enemy (the Japanese were self-deluded,
neither prepared to surrender nor to negotiate seriously)

That’s Truman’s side of the story.

The accusation is that the Japanese were prepared to surrender, and all
they were asking was that their Emperor be spared his life and placed
only under house arrest. They asked this because the Japanese viewed
their Emperor almost like a god. That simple request was what Truman
claimed to be (Not seriously ready to negotiate a complete unconditional
surrender)

At least that’s how the accusation goes.

Adj4u DID SAY that it was an accusation. Not a proven fact.

I can only tell you that I heard the same accusation. I know it was on
NPR radio where I heard it. Possibly on “All Things Considered” but I
can’t be sure about the exact program. I remember listening to the
program sometime last summer.

You might be able to find it on an NPR archive site, and actually listen
to it. I think it was like an hour long. It was pretty convincing, but
then it’s all hear-say to me. I have no clue whether it’s true or not.
But the accusation has been made. I do know that.

I hope it isn't true! That would really be sad.

yes it would be...who knows what happened for sure

it was a costly war for everyone

Steve wrote:
“and yes I was wrong about the U.S losing to Japan...we were apparently
losing but I still feel we were justified in dropping the bombs. I had
family that were in some of their concentration camps....horrible what i
was told about it..”

Yes, I agree that the war was horrible. Most wars are.

And I certainly hope that we were justified in dropping the bombs.

I certainly didn’t mean to sound like I’m supporting the accusations
against Truman. I have no clue whether or not they are true. I only
know that the show was convincing (assuming that all the supposed
‘facts’ they claimed to be stating were true). I mean, there were
citing memos and documents of conversations that Truman was having with
his staff. I imagine a lot of important people monitor those shows and
if those memos were bogus someone would complain about them.

So I have no clue. I’m merely confirming that the accusations were
broadcast on NPR radio. I vividly remember listening to that show. But
I can’ t even recall the name of the man or group that was making the
accusations. I just know that the show was broadcast on NPR radio when
I heard it. I can’t even remember precisely which show, but I’m
thinking it was most likely “All Things Considered”. And that doesn’t
imply that the accusations are true, but it does seem to imply that they
must have had at least some merit because NPR doesn’t normally broadcast
completely crackpots.

So I'm reading this as a mixed response. partly anti-American in
rhetoric and spirit, partly apathetic (oh my nothing can be done),
partly skeptical (anything I read in print may be a fabrication and
biased and probably is).

I'm very surprised. As an American I have this take. Nuclear
proliferation is not a good thing generally. Its better to reduce the
amount of countries who have the capability rather than to increase it.
Nuclear weapons in the hands of religious fanatics is worse than in the
hands of stable governments.

I also think people here should take the time to think about how much
the government and our stable lifestyle has helped to enhance your lives
personally. We have many fundamental freedoms and capitalistic and
economic opportunities which make for nice lives. We generally share
values for truth and integrity. We try to export our best values to the
rest of the world.

Strong values and a good work ethic makes this country important morally
as well as militarily and economically. We benefit the world in myriad
ways.

Contrast this with exporting of terrorist support to countries around
the world and trying to destabilize regions. If you can still be
unbiased in favor of America, or you still prefer to run your own
country down (speaking to Americans here) I have to be disappointed in
you. Show a little gratitude for those who have worked hard through
their lives to make your homeland pleasant. Have a little respect for
your ancestors.

Never under any circumstances would I run my country down..I'm very
proud to be an American...we have our problems yes but it's my country
and i'd fight to the death for it.

Steve wrote:
“Never under any circumstances would I run my country down..I'm very
proud to be an American...we have our problems yes but it's my country
and i'd fight to the death for it.”

Neither would I, but right now America’s number one enemy is holding the
office of the President!

That’s not running down America! That’s just a fact.

Talking about accusations that were made against Truman isn’t running
down America either. Even if they were true, the American people didn’t
have anything to do with it. It also wouldn’t mean that any of our
soldiers had ever done anything wrong. It would have simply be one
person in a public office doing a terrible thing.

The vast majority of Americans disprove of the policies of our current
president. Acknowledging that fact is not running the country down. On
the contrary it’s a compliment to the country as a whole.