Topic: Death Row
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Thu 02/12/09 07:50 AM
Do you believe in the Death Row?

Do you believe two wrongs make one right?

What are your thoughts about this?

ReddBeans's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:19 AM
I am for the death penalty. If you commit a cold blooded murder than you forfeit your life. I also believe pedophiles have no place in our society. There is no 'curing' a true pedophile.

elwoodsully's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:30 AM
You tell me.. This is a story about one of the guys I babysat at Cook County Jail..

http://www.skcentral.com/readarticle.php?article_id=3

TristanBru's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:31 AM
Edited by TristanBru on Thu 02/12/09 08:32 AM
Hell, you might see me there before the days over.

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Thu 02/12/09 08:34 AM
An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

FreeToB's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:43 AM
I'm for taking sociopathic multiple killers out of the world. But I like Russias way.

No 15 years in a cell with a TV, radio and a serial killer fan club. They just take them in a room like a drunk tank with a drain hole in the floor and say "Please don't turn around"..and put a bullet in the back of their head.

I am however concerned, as everyone should be, about innocent people being executed. It happens.

Guys like Richard Ramirez, John Wayne Gacy, BTK and other unrepentant, evil people should be taken out of our misery. And they should know, without a doubt, that it isn't going to take long.

I'm not so sure about the 19 year old kid who goes out with some friends and kills one person in a botched robbery attempt. If our prisons were not criminal colleges, I'd say give them a chance. But once a guy spends 10 or 20 years in a level 4 or 5 institution, he is dangerous no matter what he started as.





stonekeeper's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:44 AM
i think the death penalty should exist...but death row as we know it should not...it should be a short term thing...perhaps 6 months...time enough for one appeal..then let em fry.

nogames39's photo
Thu 02/12/09 09:20 AM
Smiles, good one, I ve heard people asking that too...


The Death Row:

I would make (more) absolutely sure that they have exhausted their appeals.

Then, release with a "O.K. to be killed" status. Let the people take shots and swings, drive em over, take their organs out, whatever.

In other words, simply make them feel how they made their victims feel, and worse.

The Two Wrongs Don't Make Right Principle:

I too, have heard people actually thinking of this! This is the most stupid idea I've heard, to apply "two wrongs" concept to a murderer. Have people already lost their mind?

They take the idea that belongs to entirely different situation and try to blindly apply it to everything.

"Two wrongs" concept is only applicable where you have made a mistake, and now thinking of making another wrong to repair the first one. (Does this really needs to be explained...???)

You have broken a car that you borrowed, by hitting a three. Now you intend to steal money to pay for the repair. This is the case, where we teach kids to "stop digging", by simply illustrating this with "two wrongs don't make right" principle. This principle suggest that to repair something bad, we need to do something good. Like silently repairing and upgrading that car on our own money, and returning it with thanks.

In case of a murderer, there is no two wrongs stacked together. We are not attempting to repair anything. What is done is done. There is one wrong, the thing that a murderer has done, and then there is justice. In this case, justice is to be ready to give up what you take from others. A murderer has decided to take away somebody's life. It's o.k., but he must be just, i.e., ready to give up his own. You want to apply the "two wrongs" principle here? How about dedicating your life to every whim of that murderer?

Sayings and principles like this mean nothing. This is only for dumb kids to make them remember which way it is, until they grow up and are able to think for themselves. "Two wrongs don't make right" is no different than teaching to count by use of fingers. Fingers are not math, but an escape from stupidity. So are the principles of justice wrapped in sayings. Why do adults pay attention to this, is beyond me.

Are some people simply born irreparably mentally deficient or do they get educated into thinking that way?

stonekeeper's photo
Thu 02/12/09 09:23 AM
i also think the insanity plea..or unfit for trial status has to be abolished...if youre too crazy to understand that murder or other horrible crimes are wrong...then you are also too crazy to live.

nogames39's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:18 AM

i also think the insanity plea..or unfit for trial status has to be abolished...if youre too crazy to understand that murder or other horrible crimes are wrong...then you are also too crazy to live.


Perfectly correct, imo.
An insanity plea simply tells us "I am not human enough to know right from wrong".