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Topic: Training others to do my work.
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Mon 02/23/09 06:31 AM
There's nothing like starting work on a Monday morning and finding out I may be going to India in a bit over a month to train a team to do my team's work. I know many out there are into outsourcing, but it's different when you have to directly deal with it.

I think my job will be fine for a while, but still. Nothing like training another team to take my work.

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Mon 02/23/09 06:34 AM
I trained others to do my work and then they took my job.(Mexico)

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Mon 02/23/09 06:36 AM
Well, yes. That's what will eventually happen.

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Mon 02/23/09 06:40 AM
Ouch that pretty much sucks but it's all part of business.

All business are into are profits, no such thing as job security anymore.

Good luck sing!!!


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Mon 02/23/09 06:41 AM
The place was so much worse then the place I worked it made me wonder how they made any money there.

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Mon 02/23/09 06:44 AM
I've done that numerous times. What part of India?


There's nothing like starting work on a Monday morning and finding out I may be going to India in a bit over a month to train a team to do my team's work. I know many out there are into outsourcing, but it's different when you have to directly deal with it.

I think my job will be fine for a while, but still. Nothing like training another team to take my work.

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Mon 02/23/09 06:47 AM

Ouch that pretty much sucks but it's all part of business.

All business are into are profits, no such thing as job security anymore.

Good luck sing!!!




Thing is, the quality of the work goes down. Of course, those making more money don't really care about that, as long as work eventually gets done.

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Mon 02/23/09 06:48 AM

I've done that numerous times. What part of India?


There's nothing like starting work on a Monday morning and finding out I may be going to India in a bit over a month to train a team to do my team's work. I know many out there are into outsourcing, but it's different when you have to directly deal with it.

I think my job will be fine for a while, but still. Nothing like training another team to take my work.



Pune

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Mon 02/23/09 06:49 AM


Ouch that pretty much sucks but it's all part of business.

All business are into are profits, no such thing as job security anymore.

Good luck sing!!!




Thing is, the quality of the work goes down. Of course, those making more money don't really care about that, as long as work eventually gets done.


Definitely, but business must acknowledge ultimately you get what you pay for.

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Mon 02/23/09 07:07 AM

There's nothing like starting work on a Monday morning and finding out I may be going to India in a bit over a month to train a team to do my team's work. I know many out there are into outsourcing, but it's different when you have to directly deal with it.

I think my job will be fine for a while, but still. Nothing like training another team to take my work.
HEY JUST DONT TRAIN THEM RIGHT, TEACH THEM ALL THE WROUNG THINGS SO THEY SCREW UP..........

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Mon 02/23/09 07:15 AM
:smile: welcome to this Brave New World IMO, most jobs will be outsourced within 5-10 years and The United States will become a 3rd world nation see you all in the bread lines be seeing you

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Mon 02/23/09 07:17 AM
wow thats a tough one. flowerforyou
helping to outsource your OWN job.


cant be a fun situation to be in, good luck to ya

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Mon 02/23/09 07:35 AM



Ouch that pretty much sucks but it's all part of business.

All business are into are profits, no such thing as job security anymore.

Good luck sing!!!




Thing is, the quality of the work goes down. Of course, those making more money don't really care about that, as long as work eventually gets done.


Definitely, but business must acknowledge ultimately you get what you pay for.


Even if we're constantly retraining the team since there is such a high turnover rate? I know it isn't working as well as they had wanted. And, it's taking much longer than they had wanted.

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Mon 02/23/09 07:36 AM


There's nothing like starting work on a Monday morning and finding out I may be going to India in a bit over a month to train a team to do my team's work. I know many out there are into outsourcing, but it's different when you have to directly deal with it.

I think my job will be fine for a while, but still. Nothing like training another team to take my work.
HEY JUST DONT TRAIN THEM RIGHT, TEACH THEM ALL THE WROUNG THINGS SO THEY SCREW UP..........


lol. Good way to lose my job quickly.

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Mon 02/23/09 07:37 AM

wow thats a tough one. flowerforyou
helping to outsource your OWN job.


cant be a fun situation to be in, good luck to ya



Thanks!

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Mon 02/23/09 09:48 AM

There's nothing like starting work on a Monday morning and finding out I may be going to India in a bit over a month to train a team to do my team's work. I know many out there are into outsourcing, but it's different when you have to directly deal with it.

I think my job will be fine for a while, but still. Nothing like training another team to take my work.


That kind of crap's been going on in my line of work for the better part of a decade-and-a-half now, starting with the passage of NAFTA.

Example- I was working on a show that was filming in San Diego about eleven years ago. It had all the standard-fare comic-book TV show stuff going on- pyro, site gags, cable-and-fly rigging, etc. and was a well-paying show for what it was. We had the show for the better part of a season.

However, the powers that be decided that they could "save money" (meaning "skim even MORE money" from the show's budget) by moving to Canada, which they did after leaving the U.S. crew in limbo for the better part of three months. And THAT meant all the sets, props, picture vehicles, wardrobe and other goodies had to be trucked up north. Since the show had pretty much bought a lot of our cable-rigging and fly-harness equipment, all that stuff went along with them as well (but not without their signing a disclaimer absolving us of any liability from their use of our equipment, first).

About two weeks after the show got settled in, my boss at the time started getting calls from the production in Canada- apparently the "techs" up there couldn't figure out how to work the equipment the were shipped, claiming it was "too complicated" or something. As a result, they wanted my boss to fly up there to "train" said techs up there on how to use our stuff.

The training stuff was surprising, the stuff was designed so that a toddler could operated it without trouble- in other words, there's little (if any) training required. Since my boss was still rather steamed at losing what was a pretty lucrative paycheck, he refused out of principle- if they're gonna take a job away from someone with over twenty-years experience (at the time), then they should know how to operate the equipment, right?

Well... the head effects dude up in Canada decided to get creative and decided to whack on one rather important (not to mention) large piece of equipment, thinking he was going to improve the design. Unfortunately, the equipment in question was was mathematically balanced as it was (it was designed by a former-JPL engineer), and the effects dude up there created more problems by ham-fistedly whacking on it.

In the end, his actions ended up injuring several stunt people who were testing out said equipment at the time.

For all I know, that item is probably rusting out there in Vancouver as I speak. laugh

So yeah- I'm not a big fan of outsourcing.

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Mon 02/23/09 09:54 AM
I replace people.

I like helping to streamline efforts so that each person can achieve more and therefore to need fewer people to keep output levels at max.

The other upside is that the people who are freed up to move up also can do better, training themselves to achieve higher goals than the former ways enabled.

So, the line workers get their production goals; supervisory and management people get their goals boosted upwards, too.

Be successful. drinker

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Mon 02/23/09 09:56 AM
scared

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Mon 02/23/09 10:02 AM
HEY LETS BRING BACK FORIEGN BASSHING.........

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Mon 02/23/09 10:02 AM

I replace people.

I like helping to streamline efforts so that each person can achieve more and therefore to need fewer people to keep output levels at max.

The other upside is that the people who are freed up to move up also can do better, training themselves to achieve higher goals than the former ways enabled.

So, the line workers get their production goals; supervisory and management people get their goals boosted upwards, too.

Be successful. drinker


"Freed up" as in laid off? Sure, if someone's laid off because they're replaced, they'll have free time to learn more. However in times like these, where it's hard to find new jobs, it's not really a welcome situation.

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