Topic: Ladies..hear my rant
MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 03/26/09 01:26 PM

maybe they dont know what else to say???
:thumbsup: Good point Dottieflowerforyou

Atlantis75's photo
Thu 03/26/09 01:37 PM
Ok...let me go into this topic a bit deeper.


It's (almost) universally accepted, that men makes first contact with the women..let it be a bar, on street or even on a dating site.

It's been on like this for thousands of years, perhaps cavemen were doing the same thing, I would suspect so. There are of course exception for whatever culture or tradition at certain points in the world, but it's a small percentage and really doesn't make an impact or alter the rest of the world on dating and making a relationship.

Men finds it "normal" not to get accepted, or at least they should, especially if there are more other men competing for the same woman.

So we get to the point, when a man tries to make a contact and gets thrown off and he moves on to find someone else or tries again and again until he is successful with the female and a relationship develops. It's the same in the animal world.

Then we come to when a woman is making a contact to the male, and that's - if you ask me - entirely different.

When a woman tries to make a contact, it is - correct me if i'm wrong- supposed to be a bit more meaningful, coming from the fact, that women has a bit of a different mindset than men and us men should take the woman's interest more seriously than women should with men.

This is really nothing complicated and not something outrageous and men who protest that we are equal with women, should take a deep breath and accept the fact, that we aren't equal, when we get asked about dating and relationships, because from the single fact, that a woman might have to bear a child and needing support for a lifetime is makes it a more serious decision for her than for a guy, you can't fight this...a mother is more important to a child than a father, although I'm not going into a debate about just how important a father is (very), because I can already feel the onslaught I might get from single moms who feel better of by themselves raising their child, than having a man around.

So..anyway.
I just think it is important to keep in mind - again, it's my opinion- that even just a small email coming from a woman to a man, is actually more meaningful - or at least I think so - than a man's e-mail going to a woman. Looks small and insignificant, but the difference is still there...and i can't believe I spent 20 minutes writing this.whoa

feistybaby's photo
Thu 03/26/09 01:41 PM

Ok...let me go into this topic a bit deeper.


It's (almost) universally accepted, that men makes first contact with the women..let it be a bar, on street or even on a dating site.

It's been on like this for thousands of years, perhaps cavemen were doing the same thing, I would suspect so. There are of course exception for whatever culture or tradition at certain points in the world, but it's a small percentage and really doesn't make an impact or alter the rest of the world on dating and making a relationship.

Men finds it "normal" not to get accepted, or at least they should, especially if there are more other men competing for the same woman.

So we get to the point, when a man tries to make a contact and gets thrown off and he moves on to find someone else or tries again and again until he is successful with the female and a relationship develops. It's the same in the animal world.

Then we come to when a woman is making a contact to the male, and that's - if you ask me - entirely different.

When a woman tries to make a contact, it is - correct me if i'm wrong- supposed to be a bit more meaningful, coming from the fact, that women has a bit of a different mindset than men and us men should take the woman's interest more seriously than women should with men.

This is really nothing complicated and not something outrageous and men who protest that we are equal with women, should take a deep breath and accept the fact, that we aren't equal, when we get asked about dating and relationships, because from the single fact, that a woman might have to bear a child and needing support for a lifetime is makes it a more serious decision for her than for a guy, you can't fight this...a mother is more important to a child than a father, although I'm not going into a debate about just how important a father is (very), because I can already feel the onslaught I might get from single moms who feel better of by themselves raising their child, than having a man around.

So..anyway.
I just think it is important to keep in mind - again, it's my opinion- that even just a small email coming from a woman to a man, is actually more meaningful - or at least I think so - than a man's e-mail going to a woman. Looks small and insignificant, but the difference is still there...and i can't believe I spent 20 minutes writing this.whoa




And would you like to explain why you do the same thing you just accused this woman of????? Or does it not count that for 2 days we exchanged friends mail then poof you just stop writing even though you are online? How do you feel you deserve to go on a rant when you treat people exactly the same way? I mean it's no biggie to me but if you want to be throwing stones you need to move out of that glass house~

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 01:48 PM

Ok...let me go into this topic a bit deeper.


It's (almost) universally accepted, that men makes first contact with the women..let it be a bar, on street or even on a dating site.

It's been on like this for thousands of years, perhaps cavemen were doing the same thing, I would suspect so. There are of course exception for whatever culture or tradition at certain points in the world, but it's a small percentage and really doesn't make an impact or alter the rest of the world on dating and making a relationship.

Men finds it "normal" not to get accepted, or at least they should, especially if there are more other men competing for the same woman.

So we get to the point, when a man tries to make a contact and gets thrown off and he moves on to find someone else or tries again and again until he is successful with the female and a relationship develops. It's the same in the animal world.

Then we come to when a woman is making a contact to the male, and that's - if you ask me - entirely different.

When a woman tries to make a contact, it is - correct me if i'm wrong- supposed to be a bit more meaningful, coming from the fact, that women has a bit of a different mindset than men and us men should take the woman's interest more seriously than women should with men.

This is really nothing complicated and not something outrageous and men who protest that we are equal with women, should take a deep breath and accept the fact, that we aren't equal, when we get asked about dating and relationships, because from the single fact, that a woman might have to bear a child and needing support for a lifetime is makes it a more serious decision for her than for a guy, you can't fight this...a mother is more important to a child than a father, although I'm not going into a debate about just how important a father is (very), because I can already feel the onslaught I might get from single moms who feel better of by themselves raising their child, than having a man around.

So..anyway.
I just think it is important to keep in mind - again, it's my opinion- that even just a small email coming from a woman to a man, is actually more meaningful - or at least I think so - than a man's e-mail going to a woman. Looks small and insignificant, but the difference is still there...and i can't believe I spent 20 minutes writing this.whoa


So, are you saying that you think a woman is interested in you if she makes first contact? I email people for all kinds of reasons. However, me emailing someone does not necessarily mean I'm interested in them.

Atlantis75's photo
Thu 03/26/09 01:57 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Thu 03/26/09 01:59 PM


So, are you saying that you think a woman is interested in you if she makes first contact?


Unless she got any other reason to contact someone on a dating site, she should say so maybe? Ask a guy who gets a "hi how are you?" message and give him a multiple choice question of what he thinks why a woman is contacting him on a dating site.

a. she might saw me with my shoes untied
b. she wants to warn me of bad weather
c. she might be interested in me.

guess which answer will be picked.

I email people for all kinds of reasons. However, me emailing someone does not necessarily mean I'm interested in them.


but you do state your reason why you are emailing them if it's not because you are interested in them?


And would you like to explain why you do the same thing you just accused this woman of????? Or does it not count that for 2 days we exchanged friends mail then poof you just stop writing even though you are online? How do you feel you deserve to go on a rant when you treat people exactly the same way? I mean it's no biggie to me but if you want to be throwing stones you need to move out of that glass house~


hon, i'm talking about 1st contact, we had a convo going on and the last time i emailed you was 1 day ago. flowerforyou

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Thu 03/26/09 02:01 PM



So, are you saying that you think a woman is interested in you if she makes first contact?


Unless she got any other reason to contact someone on a dating site, she should say so maybe?

I email people for all kinds of reasons. However, me emailing someone does not necessarily mean I'm interested in them.


but you do state your reason why you are emailing them if it's not because you are interested in them?



This is more than a dating site. So, I don't feel the need to start every email with "I'm emailing you because _______, not because I'm interested in you." I contact people because of what they say in the forums, because something in their profile was interesting, because they seemed like an interesting person and so on. That doesn't necessarily mean I want to date everyone I email.

Atlantis75's photo
Thu 03/26/09 02:09 PM


This is more than a dating site. So, I don't feel the need to start every email with "I'm emailing you because _______, not because I'm interested in you." I contact people because of what they say in the forums, because something in their profile was interesting, because they seemed like an interesting person and so on. That doesn't necessarily mean I want to date everyone I email.


Who is talking about dating here? I'm talking about responding to emails.

Read the first post again...what was I talking about.

When you email someone , especially you are asking something with a "?" question mark...do you expect a response coming or no?

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 02:10 PM
I was commenting on:

Unless she got any other reason to contact someone on a dating site, she should say so maybe?

Atlantis75's photo
Thu 03/26/09 02:43 PM
Ok so in a summary:



1. If anyone gets an email and it's "hey how are you?" or similar... that does not mean the person is interested in the other?

2. There is such an interest between members, that only goes as far as liking each other profile, doesn't want any further and closer relationship?

3.If I get an email I never talked to before..should i not treat it seriously, the person might be just "window shopping"?


GG2's photo
Thu 03/26/09 02:48 PM

Ok so in a summary:



1. If anyone gets an email and it's "hey how are you?" or similar... that does not mean the person is interested in the other?

2. There is such an interest between members, that only goes as far as liking each other profile, doesn't want any further and closer relationship?

3.If I get an email I never talked to before..should i not treat it seriously, the person might be just "window shopping"?





1. I always figured it meant they were interested.

2. It all depends if they're willing to make a move. Figuratively and possibly literally.

3. Sure treat it seriously, why not?

Atlantis75's photo
Thu 03/26/09 03:06 PM

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3. Sure treat it seriously, why not?


Well read through the thread...accordingly to some there is this window shopping going on..whatever that is...and if i get an email it doesn't have much meaning anyway.

justme659's photo
Thu 03/26/09 03:09 PM
I must be a real odd ball on this site. I answer my email, even if after checking out the senders profile and I dont feel its going to work out, with a polite reason why and either a good luck with your continued search or no thanks. Most times I dont send blind emails to guys, unless its to comment on a funny post the person left. 8 times out of 10 I get a quick thank you and then its done, no reason to respond to that. I guess its just a matter of how you were raised with or without manners. Male or female. It can be frustrating to be in a middle of a conversation and never hear back from the other person, but at some point you have to let it go and say adios.

GG2's photo
Thu 03/26/09 03:17 PM


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3. Sure treat it seriously, why not?


Well read through the thread...accordingly to some there is this window shopping going on..whatever that is...and if i get an email it doesn't have much meaning anyway.


Window-shopping is just perving, you know, checking out your page. I agree with you that any e-mail SHOULD be taken seriously, as long as it isn't like the one I just got, "Hey I"m looking for someone naughty to talk with, if you are interested let me know." rofl

Any email that is respectful, no matter whom it's from, should be replied to and should let the other know whether they would like to continue chatting or not. If not, just tell them thanks and you hope they find that special someone. Any emails after that from the same person have the right to be deleted without being read. You just have to get to the point and let them know you're interested instead of the usual "Hi how are you" stuff.


Cinderella75's photo
Thu 03/26/09 03:35 PM
She got sidetracked with another dude.
Most guys start off with some sort of small talk..sometimes I have 10 IM windows up at the same time, and I usually stick w/ the conversations I find most interesting. (And no, "Hows it going" and "Hows your day?" ain't gonna cut it!)

Change it up a little. Next time say something clever, not cheesy tho, something other than the usual, something totally random. Keep it interesting!!
It gets old having to reply: "Good n u?" to your:" Hows it going?"
Especially when she has 10 windows open (and if she is remotely hot, she prolly has at least that)
I like to have big discussions usually, and it is hard carrying on a good convo with 10 guys at the same time..the ones that are just too usual, will get left behind/ignored... whatever.

Don't take it personal, just learn from it, to just be a lil' different than everyone else she is currently talking to.:wink:

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Thu 03/26/09 03:39 PM


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3. Sure treat it seriously, why not?


Well read through the thread...accordingly to some there is this window shopping going on..whatever that is...and if i get an email it doesn't have much meaning anyway.


You can't expect each person or every email to mean the same thing. Just handle it on an individual basis.

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 03:40 PM
if you were better looking you might get more responses



(just kidding)

Atlantis75's photo
Thu 03/26/09 04:51 PM

She got sidetracked with another dude.
Most guys start off with some sort of small talk..sometimes I have 10 IM windows up at the same time, and I usually stick w/ the conversations I find most interesting. (And no, "Hows it going" and "Hows your day?" ain't gonna cut it!)

Change it up a little. Next time say something clever, not cheesy tho, something other than the usual, something totally random. Keep it interesting!!
It gets old having to reply: "Good n u?" to your:" Hows it going?"
Especially when she has 10 windows open (and if she is remotely hot, she prolly has at least that)
I like to have big discussions usually, and it is hard carrying on a good convo with 10 guys at the same time..the ones that are just too usual, will get left behind/ignored... whatever.

Don't take it personal, just learn from it, to just be a lil' different than everyone else she is currently talking to.:wink:



Well I guess I have to stay away from hot women

less competition = more chance.

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Thu 03/26/09 04:53 PM
I have no idea what could have happened.

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Thu 03/26/09 05:13 PM


She got sidetracked with another dude.
Most guys start off with some sort of small talk..sometimes I have 10 IM windows up at the same time, and I usually stick w/ the conversations I find most interesting. (And no, "Hows it going" and "Hows your day?" ain't gonna cut it!)

Change it up a little. Next time say something clever, not cheesy tho, something other than the usual, something totally random. Keep it interesting!!
It gets old having to reply: "Good n u?" to your:" Hows it going?"
Especially when she has 10 windows open (and if she is remotely hot, she prolly has at least that)
I like to have big discussions usually, and it is hard carrying on a good convo with 10 guys at the same time..the ones that are just too usual, will get left behind/ignored... whatever.

Don't take it personal, just learn from it, to just be a lil' different than everyone else she is currently talking to.:wink:



Well I guess I have to stay away from hot women

less competition = more chance.



Categorizing is not the answer either. Ok so maybe you thought you found the one you would like to get to know, and they aren't on the same page. That happens to all of us. We just lick our wounds and bounce back.

HasidicEnforcer's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:54 PM
Edited by HasidicEnforcer on Thu 03/26/09 05:56 PM
Wow, um, hate to say this, but you are a bit too analytical, hon.

Women hate that.

I hate being and having everything I do analyzed. I am human, I make mistakes, but I hate having people analyze them.

Just accept the fact that some people just stop emailing. Period.

I do it, and I am sure others have too. I hate one liner emails asking me how I am doing.

Talk to me.

When I get one liners, I give one-liners. When asked how I am doing, I tell you "Fine" and that's it.

Don't stress about and don't bother yourself so much to post about it.

After all, this is Mingle. MANY people have asked the same question you have and NO ONE has found the answer yet.


BTW, I have noticed a few of my emails I have sent on this site have gone unread because they never make it to the designated person. They get lost in MingleSpace and never get read. Trust me, cause I have asked and had people say they never got that email or whatever.

So, analyze that. Maybe she never got it?