I would seem to me that every time something is deregulated we suffer some form of abuse, yet you want more deregulation? that confuses me.

Nope, don't think so. I think they hid behind fiscal conservative ideals, but they rarely ever executed them.

Be careful not to commit a very common critical thinking fallacy and assume that because we happened to fall on a good time when Clinton was in office, all republicans are bad, and democrats are good.

In order to make an intelligent opinion of this you must look at the policies passed, the outcomes of these policies (take into account outside influences) and who was responsible for passing them.

This takes a LOT of time and reading. It also takes a great deal of independent thought and analysis of situations.

I know that Bush spent alot but we are talking about 8 years of him being in office.I heard on the radio today that Obama has already spent roughly 4 trillion dollars.I think what some people are getting upset about is Obama has probably spent more in three months than Bush did in a year.Since we all follow politics we already know that more than likely spending is going to get far worse.He is spending like the world is coming to a end I know that record high taxes is coming our way very soon.At least with Bush we knew where the money was going.I have no idea where Obamas money went.

The question still is...Aww hell, see OP.

I didn't actually mention this earlier, but yes,i am for deregulation. But it only works if all regulation is removed. You can't pick at certain ones.

When a regulation passes it gives advantages to companies in the free market, by taking away from others. Unfortunately, 9 times out of 10 when a regulation passes a corporate giant funds it in some way. Usually they end up sactioning their business making it harder for others to compete which is essential in a free market environment.

In a completely, totally free market, with no regulations, the consumers have most of the power. Add a regulation it displaces that power and gives it to a government official who can be bought.
A company can't price gouge for very long since the market itself decides the value of a product. If they charge 20$ for a 5$ product they will sell less of these. In fact it will be so much less that a company would natually benefin from producing and selling 5 of these 5$ products as apposed to 1 $20 product. It self adjusts. If people become dependent on lets say, oil. Then eventually when it becomes too expensive someone will see profit in inventing and fully exploiting another form of energy.

The difference here, is the fact that people would be finding the "need" of the population, and filling it. Providing the population needed this, it would be profitable. The market is a natural and the most accurate way of finding this need.

I could use more numbers to support this, but it is kinda late, and my mind isn't that clear right now. You can look some of this up though, i encourage so.

I tried on the last page at the bottom. Was i not specific enough?

Poor accountibility, and two wars?

Definitely would explain and increase in deficit i would think...

Yes, things got worse when they were deregulated.

Obama's spending the TARP money that Bush left him.

HOW??? What happened?

Like drivin and myself have said Republican != fiscal conservative. that used to be a basis of the party but has gone to hell with the neocons taking over. there are a few in the party that really believe that principle but they are becoming few and far between and the largest group that now follows that would be us in the libertarian camp.

Here you go.


"I find it strange to hear Republicans now raging against budget deficits. These same Republicans sat silent for 8 years while G.W. Bush took us from budget surpluses to the largest deficits in history.

Why didn't they speak up then?"

I lived those good money times, Driven. I was in my 30's.

I remember that money.

Did i not answer the question Winx? I thought i gave an honest answer...

''Be careful not to commit a very common critical thinking fallacy and assume that because we happened to fall on a good time when Clinton was in office, all republicans are bad, and democrats are good.''

I myself will never make that mistake, because it's too clear that both republicans and democrats have failed too many times. So I don't automatically assume that either are good or bad individually, though I have to say that I am often confused by republicans because for a while I got them mixed up with conservative and neocon and geeezuz, how many ...ugh never mind, too tired to rant.. lol

I know. Things were more financially comfortable back then for my family as well... Not much, but they were.

You're explaining well.
I think there's even more to it then that.

Guess I'm the only person here that's doing better right now than any time in the past.

I remember Bush passing a bill for 700 billion before Obama took office.Where the other 3.3 trillion came from is anyones guess.

LOL...

I hear ya. My family used to be republicans for the most part. The wealthier and the poorer. It was more fiscal conservative ideas that they liked. But they definitely aren't happy as of the last 10 years or so.

Face it, the majority of repubs and dems are screwed up... It is good to see that you don't blind yourself by picking sides...

Thank you. I do try. And you are right, there is definitely more to it than i mentioned. But i think i touched on a few key parts...