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warmachine's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:04 AM
Is Swine Flu A Race-Specific Virus?

First death in U.S. is Mexican toddler, prompting questions about why only hispanics have died despite outbreak spreading to at least ten countries

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, April 29, 2009

The first swine flu death in the United States has been confirmed, but the victim is a Mexican toddler who caught the illness in Mexico before traveling to Texas. Serious questions must now be asked about why a virus that has spread across at least 10 countries and is suspected in many others has only killed hispanics, and whether a race-specific bio-weapon is being beta-tested.

Scientists are still baffled as to the contrast between the lethality of the virus in Mexico compared to the rest of the world. Despite the virus being confirmed in the United States, Canada, the UK, Spain, New Zealand, Germany, Costa Rica, and Austria, with probable cases also occurring in France, South Korea and Slovakia, the virus has killed only Mexicans.

We are also told that the virus which sickened students at a school in Queens is the same strain as the one found in Mexico.

How can it be that the only fatalities are Mexican hispanics nearly a week into the outbreak?

Race-specific viruses can occur naturally, but this is a rare phenomenon. Is the swine flu virus a synthetically manufactured race-specific bio-weapon being beta-tested in preparation for more deadly pandemics in the future?

The U.S. military-industrial complex’s interest in race-specific bio-weapons as a tool of warfare is not a paranoid conspiracy theory - it’s outlined in their own public documents.

“Advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool,” stated the September 2000 Rebuilding America’s Defenses report released by the Project For A New American Century - the ideological framework of the Bush administration.

In 2006, Armed Forces Journal, a mouthpiece for the military-industrial complex, carried a military strategy plan written by retired Major Ralph Peters which called for “ethnic cleansing” to be instituted in the Middle East so that the region could easily be dominated by the joint interests of Israel and the United States.

As far back as 1998, Wired Magazine, citing the London Times, carried a report detailing the fact that Israel was already readying race-specific weapons for this very purpose.

“Israel is reportedly developing a biological weapon that would harm Arabs while leaving Jews unaffected, according to a report in London’s Sunday Times,” stated the article.

“The report, citing Israeli military and western intelligence sources, says that scientists are trying to identify distinctive genes carried by Arabs to create a genetically modified bacterium or virus.”

Wikipedia - that bastion of credibility - claims that the story was debunked but fails to provide conclusive evidence.

Strong speculation that recently constructed bio-defense facilities in the United States are being used to conduct with race-specific bio-weapons has also come from credible sources.

A 1999 UK Sunday Herald piece highlighted a report by the British Medical Association which concluded that race-specific bio-weapons would be ready within 5 years, “enabling governments to target victims solely on their genetic make-up.”

“Genetic weapons capable of wiping out specific ethnic groups are no longer the stuff of science fiction, military and scientific advisers with the British and American governments have admitted,” states the report.

“Professor Vivienne Nathanson, head of the BMA’s health policy research, said: “Biological weapons had limited use due to the shortcoming of being unspecific in targeting. “However, genetic targeting is now possible. Probably in the next five to 10 years we will see the manufacture of relatively specific biological weapons which are lethal in small volumes.”

The article explains how FBI crime labs have stumbled across genetic markers specific to blacks, whites, hispanics and native Americans during routine work. The same markers have been discovered in Palestinians, setting them apart from Israelis.

“If you add together a number of different markers for different populations you can start to be specific to a target population,” states Nathanson.

Lest we forget the innumerable instances where pioneering eugenicists and members of the global elite have publicly called for the earth’s population to be reduced to “sustainable” levels.

Perhaps the most infamous example of this is Prince Philip, the husband of the Queen of England, who has repeatedly expressed his desire to return to earth as a “particularly deadly virus” to “cull” the surplus human population.

As Alex Jones documents in his seminal documentary End Game, this mind set is endemic amongst the elite.

So having established the fact that race-specific bio-weapons have already been produced and are ready for use, and having confirmed that the elite have repeatedly expressed a desire to use them, it’s necessary to ask whether or not hispanics are being targeted by the swine flu outbreak as a beta-test of these weapons.

Since the common flu virus does kill people every year, a handful of non-hispanic deaths attributed to swine flu will not disprove this hypothesis, which will remain a possibility unless we see a significant number of fatalities of non-hispanics.


warmachine's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:14 AM
Swine Flu Smoking Gun? CDC was Combining Flu Viruses in 2004


Sherry Baker
Natural News
Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Last week, when what is now called a “swine flu” was first reported to be infecting and killing some people in Mexico, health officials noted it was a strain of flu never before seen. In fact, it is technically incorrect to call this simply a “swine” flu. Analyses showed it’s a mixture of swine, human and avian viruses, according to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Moreover, it is genetically different from the fully human H1N1 seasonal influenza virus that has been circulating globally for the past few years. Bottom line: the new flu virus contains DNA from avian, swine viruses (including elements from European and Asian viruses) and human viruses.

So did this curious mixture just develop naturally, out of the blue? Is it the result of inhumane farming practices, as the Humane Society of the United States (http://www.hsus.org/) has suggested, that exposes immune-compromised pigs to all sorts of animal and human feces?

Well, maybe. But let’s go back and look at the facts to see if any other scenario could be possible.

First of all, there’s the troublesome detail that the virus has elements that come from multiple continents. Then there’s the fact that true swine flu is only rarely transmissible to humans — this flu is spreading human-to-human, most likely because it contains DNA from human flu.

Could someone have deliberately mixed these viruses together? Is that possible? Absolutely.

Was this virus mixing being done artificially in the lab, or had it already been done? Yes.

Who was blending potentially viruses in labs? Were those horrible generic boogie men known to Americans far and wide as “terrorists” doing it? There’s no proof of bioterrorism at work here yet. However, there is evidence the United States government has been working on concocting new flu virus blends.

So could the hysteria-provoking, new swine flu have escaped from a lab? Or was it deliberately released as some kind of test? When these kinds of questions are asked, the knee-jerk reaction of the mainstream media (MSM) is to giggle and talk about “conspiracy theories” and to joke about wearing tinfoil hats.

But here’s the potential smoking gun, the facts that suggest a potential source of the pandemic could be CDC labs. And at the very least, this possibility deserves thoughtful examination and research.

The University of Minnesota Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) is hardly a place most Americans have heard about and, apparently, the Center’s web site has news the MSM isn’t familiar with, either. But information they published years ago has now taken on an urgent importance. CIDRAP, along with the Canadian newspaper Canadian Press (CP), revealed back in 2004 that the CDC was launching experiments designed to mix the H5N1 (avian) virus and human flu viruses. The goal was to find out how likely it was such a “reassortant” virus would emerge and just how dangerous it might be. Of course, it’s logical to wonder if they also worked with the addition of a swine flu virus, too.

Here’s some background from the five-year-old report by the University of Minnesota research center: “One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world. That could happen, scientists predict, if someone who is already infected with an ordinary flu virus contracts the avian virus at the same time. The avian virus has already caused at least 48 confirmed human illness cases in Asia, of which 35 have been fatal. The virus has shown little ability to spread from person to person, but the fear is that a hybrid could combine the killing power of the avian virus with the transmissibility of human flu viruses. Now, rather than waiting to see if nature spawns such a hybrid, US scientists are planning to try to breed one themselves — in the name of preparedness.”

And CDC officials actually confirmed the government had plans for the research. The CIDRAP News folks did a great job covering this important issue, which was apparently mostly ignored by the MSM back in 2004, and CIDRAP News wrote to the CDC for information. This e-mail produced an answer from CDC spokesman David Daigle who admitted the CDC was working on the project in two ways. “One is to infect cells in a laboratory tissue culture with H5N1 and human flu viruses at the same time and then watch to see if they mix. For the human virus, investigators will use A (H3N2), the strain that has caused most human flu cases in recent years,” the CIDRAP story stated. This co-infection approach was described as slow and labor-intensive. However, it was a way to produce a new virus that appeared to be closer to what develops in nature.

There was another, faster way CDC scientists could create the mix, too. Called reverse genetics, it involves piecing together a new virus with genes from the H5N1 and H3N2 viruses. Reverse genetics had already been used successfully to create H5N1 candidate vaccines in several laboratories, the CDC’s Daigle wrote. “Any viable viruses that emerge from these processes will be seeded into animals that are considered good models for testing how flu viruses behave in humans… The aim will be to observe whether the animals get sick and whether infected animals can infect others,” he revealed in his e-mail.

What’s more, the CP reported the CDC had already made hybrid viruses with H5N1 samples isolated from patients in Hong Kong in 1997, when there was the first outbreak of that virus, dubbed the “Hong Kong flu”. It is not clear if the results of that research were ever published. Back in 2004, Dr. Nancy Cox, then head of the CDC’s influenza branch, would tell the CP only: “Some gene combinations could be produced and others could not.”

The CP’s report noted that the World Health Organization (WHO) had been “pleading” for laboratories to do this blending-of-viruses research. The reason? If successful, these flu mixes would back up WHO’s warnings about the possibility of a flu pandemic. In fact, Klaus Stohr, head of the WHO’s global flu program at the time, told the CP that if the experiments were successful in producing highly transmissible and pathogenic viruses, the agency would be even more worried — but if labs couldn’t create these mixed flu viruses, then the agency might have to ratchet down its level of concern.

The 2004 CIDRAP News report addressed the obvious risks of manufacturing viruses in labs that, if released, could potentially spark a pandemic. However, the CDC’s Daigle assured the Minnesota research group the virus melding would be done in a biosafety level 3 (BSL-3) laboratory. “We recognize that there is concern by some over this type of work. This concern may be heightened by reports of recent lab exposures in other lab facilities,” he told CIDRAP. “But CDC has an incredible record in lab safety and is taking very strict precautions.”

Five years later, we must ask more questions. Were those safety measures enough? Was the CDC creating or testing any of these virus mixes in or near Mexico? What other potentially deadly virus combinations has the US government created? Don’t US citizens, as taxpayers who funded these experiments, have a right to know? And for all the residents of planet earth faced with a potentially deadly global epidemic, isn’t it time for the truth?

New flu is a genetic mix”,

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKTRE53N4ZC20090424

CDC to mix avian, flu viruses”,

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/jan1404hybrids.html

tanyaann's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:20 AM
Maybe because Mexian has sub par health care?

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:27 AM

Maybe because Mexian has sub par health care?



ya think what about those that are not mexican and have no health care

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Nearly 46 million Americans, or 18 percent of the population under the age of 65, were without health insurance in 2007, the latest government data available.

http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml

warmachine's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:27 AM

Maybe because Mexian has sub par health care?


Our system isn't exactly a gleeming, sterling example of caring and quality healthcare.

We have about 50 million uninsured and 10's of millions more underinsured. We have huge swaths of land that are considered slums, we have tent cities.

What's the common demoninator? Not one white or black person has died, only Mexicans... seems odd.

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Wed 04/29/09 10:29 AM
Another thing. It is very rare to find a Mexican who practices healthy diets. Many don't eat veggies.
Their staples are, corn, beans, rice, flour, corn meal, tomato sauce and meat, when they can afford it.
Might check on what income level of the folks in Mexico who are dying is also. Level of income could determine how healthy they lived and how susceptible they were.

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:32 AM

Another thing. It is very rare to find a Mexican who practices healthy diets. Many don't eat veggies.
Their staples are, corn, beans, rice, flour, corn meal, tomato sauce and meat, when they can afford it.
Might check on what income level of the folks in Mexico who are dying is also. Level of income could determine how healthy they lived and how susceptible they were.


huh huh huh


corn, beans, rice, flour, corn meal, tomato sauce

those are veggies are they not

what what

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:35 AM
huh Did BHO do it?huh

FreeToB's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:35 AM
While a race specific virus could be created, and probably already has, I find it improbable that one was deliberately introduced into a population. There are too many variables in DNA to ensure that it would only affect one race, or even one species.

That elitists think of the population that works as sheep is not a new, or wrong idea,in my opinion. But they also have to realize that they themselves would be reduced to the same level if we were not here.

I would not be surprised if the Chinese government or Muslim extremists tried something like that on a limited population...perhaps islanders, but cannot believe that OUR government, no matter how corrupt they are, would be so arrogant or stupid as to put forth a virus to infect a selected population. Especially when they won't even put up a wall to keep the illegals out and insist on giving them free health care, food stamps, etc.

We only hear how many people died in Mexico, not how many were exposed. Mexico is an agricultural country with a much larger rural layout than the US. But the food generated by these rural folk are sold in markets in cities for the most part, where people gather en-masse. There is minimal inspection. They also lag in sanitation, health care and disease control. I have not heard that Latinos were the ones affected here in the US anyway.

I tend to steer away from a conspiracy theory and more towards natural selection. If you're filthy, have open sewers, don't wash your hands from the point of butchering a pig to shaking hands with the mayor, don't have a doctor or medication, then you're probably going to get sick.

warmachine's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:35 AM
Maybe he meant green veggies... like bell peppers, jalapenos, cilantro... maybe onions?

Then again, if they're monsanto creatures, then they're not really veggies anyway, they're Chimera.

tanyaann's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:36 AM

Another thing. It is very rare to find a Mexican who practices healthy diets. Many don't eat veggies.
Their staples are, corn, beans, rice, flour, corn meal, tomato sauce and meat, when they can afford it.
Might check on what income level of the folks in Mexico who are dying is also. Level of income could determine how healthy they lived and how susceptible they were.


Actually that diet is well-balanced.

willing2's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:36 AM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 04/29/09 10:37 AM


Another thing. It is very rare to find a Mexican who practices healthy diets. Many don't eat veggies.
Their staples are, corn, beans, rice, flour, corn meal, tomato sauce and meat, when they can afford it.
Might check on what income level of the folks in Mexico who are dying is also. Level of income could determine how healthy they lived and how susceptible they were.


huh huh huh


corn, beans, rice, flour, corn meal, tomato sauce

those are veggies are they not

what what

More specifically, green vegs. and fruits. And lots of Lard.

warmachine's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:39 AM

While a race specific virus could be created, and probably already has, I find it improbable that one was deliberately introduced into a population. There are too many variables in DNA to ensure that it would only affect one race, or even one species.

That elitists think of the population that works as sheep is not a new, or wrong idea,in my opinion. But they also have to realize that they themselves would be reduced to the same level if we were not here.

I would not be surprised if the Chinese government or Muslim extremists tried something like that on a limited population...perhaps islanders, but cannot believe that OUR government, no matter how corrupt they are, would be so arrogant or stupid as to put forth a virus to infect a selected population. Especially when they won't even put up a wall to keep the illegals out and insist on giving them free health care, food stamps, etc.

We only hear how many people died in Mexico, not how many were exposed. Mexico is an agricultural country with a much larger rural layout than the US. But the food generated by these rural folk are sold in markets in cities for the most part, where people gather en-masse. There is minimal inspection. They also lag in sanitation, health care and disease control. I have not heard that Latinos were the ones affected here in the US anyway.

I tend to steer away from a conspiracy theory and more towards natural selection. If you're filthy, have open sewers, don't wash your hands from the point of butchering a pig to shaking hands with the mayor, don't have a doctor or medication, then you're probably going to get sick.


Really? Conspiracy theory?
Didn't I post the article about the CDC combining flu types?

Did I not post the evidence of the "think tanks" calling for creation and use of these genome specific bioweapons?

Then there is this little factoid that happened just before people started popping up sick:

http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/23/2722712-3-vials-of-virus-missing-from-fort-detrick-the-us-armys-primary-biodefence-resarch-facility

Vials of Virus Missing From Fort Detrick, The US Army's Primary Biodefence Resarch Facility

Missing vials of a potentially dangerous virus have prompted an Army investigation into the disappearance from a lab in Maryland.

The Army's Criminal Investigation Command agents have been visiting Fort Detrick in Frederick, Maryland, to investigate the disappearance of the vials. Christopher Grey, spokesman for the command, said this latest investigation has found "no evidence of criminal activity."

The vials contained samples of Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis, a virus that sickens horses and can be spread to humans by mosquitoes. In 97 percent of cases, humans with the virus suffer flu-like symptoms, but it can be deadly in about 1 out of 100 cases, according to Caree Vander Linden, a spokeswoman for the Army's Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. There is an effective vaccine for the disease and there hasn't been an outbreak in the United States since 1971.


warmachine's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:40 AM
Naaa... couldn't be, it's all just an whacko theory by some guy in a tinfoil hat. And Government loves us all.

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:45 AM
Typical Mexican food derives from Indian, Spanish, French and even Moorish and Chinese influences. Many dishes are hot and spicy, and even familiar foods taste distinctive when cooked with the Mexican touch. The nation's favorite festive dish is mole de guajolote. Guajolote is turkey, and mole (MOH-leh) is a rich, thick sauce made from various chiles, ground peanuts, spices, sesame seed and chocolate. More prevalent dishes are those made of either frijoles (beans) cooked in various ways or rice combined with vegetables, chicken livers, plantains or eggs. Guacamole is a salad that consists of mashed avocado seasoned with onion, hot peppers and tomato. It is often served with granada (pomegranate) and totopos (fried tortillas). Corn, is a staple of the Mexican diet. The tortilla, also common in Central America, is a thin pancake made of coarse cornmeal and appears in many guises on a Mexican menu. Tacos, tortas, pozole, quesadillas, enchiladas and others. Typical Mexican desserts are fruit pastes called ates (AH-tehs); cajetas (kah-HEH-tahs), chongos and jamoncillos, cocadas. Mexican beers are appreciated throughout the worlsd, and the domestic wines are becoming quite good. From the several varieties of the maguey (mah-GAY) plant, a cactus-like jack-of-all-trades, are produced aguamiel and pulque (central Mexico), mezcal (Oaxaca), tequila (Jalisco), comiteco (Chiapas), charanda (Michoac�n), zotol (Chihuahua) and bacamora (Sonora).

http://www.mexconnect.com/en/articles/3230-facts-about-mexico

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seems to be a variety of foods listed

and if it was truly a fruit and veggie issue would there not be other diseases involved such as scurvy

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Wed 04/29/09 10:48 AM


Maybe because Mexian has sub par health care?


Our system isn't exactly a gleeming, sterling example of caring and quality healthcare.

We have about 50 million uninsured and 10's of millions more underinsured. We have huge swaths of land that are considered slums, we have tent cities.

What's the common demoninator? Not one white or black person has died, only Mexicans... seems odd.


Where exactly did you hear that ONLY Mexicans have died from this? Oh yeah, the convict!!!

Only ONE person in the US has died from it, a 2 year old boy. He was Mexican but he CAME from Mexico. "Health officials in Texas said the child had traveled with his family from Mexico, to Brownsville on April 4 and was brought to Houston >>>after becoming ill<<<. He died Monday night". Naturally, in Mexico, statistically speaking, it will likely be Mexicans affected. duh!

Germany became the latest country to report swine flu infections. It reported four cases on Wednesday. (Not many Mexicans in Germany)

New Zealand's total rose to 14. (Not many Mexicans in NZ)

Britain had earlier reported five cases, Spain four. There were 13 cases in Canada, two in Israel and one in Austria.

Hw many Mexican Jews do you know???

The deaths in Mexico were OBVIOUSLY due to the fact that this is where it originated and there is virtually no health care or sanitation in most of the country. And by the time Mexican authorities saw a problem, it was epidemic.

When only Mexicans that have NOT been to Mexico start kicking off in all these other countries, I will give your conspiracy theory some credit. Until then..its total BS. Some crap written by a Mexican prisoner in some US penitentiary.

warmachine's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:52 AM
How many white and black people have actually died from this, not just infected, but died?

I'm still looking and I'm not finding any deaths where the persons skin was much lighter than Cheech Marins.

You're reporting infections, not people who have died from it. Big difference.

FreeToB's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:54 AM


While a race specific virus could be created, and probably already has, I find it improbable that one was deliberately introduced into a population. There are too many variables in DNA to ensure that it would only affect one race, or even one species.

That elitists think of the population that works as sheep is not a new, or wrong idea,in my opinion. But they also have to realize that they themselves would be reduced to the same level if we were not here.

I would not be surprised if the Chinese government or Muslim extremists tried something like that on a limited population...perhaps islanders, but cannot believe that OUR government, no matter how corrupt they are, would be so arrogant or stupid as to put forth a virus to infect a selected population. Especially when they won't even put up a wall to keep the illegals out and insist on giving them free health care, food stamps, etc.

We only hear how many people died in Mexico, not how many were exposed. Mexico is an agricultural country with a much larger rural layout than the US. But the food generated by these rural folk are sold in markets in cities for the most part, where people gather en-masse. There is minimal inspection. They also lag in sanitation, health care and disease control. I have not heard that Latinos were the ones affected here in the US anyway.

I tend to steer away from a conspiracy theory and more towards natural selection. If you're filthy, have open sewers, don't wash your hands from the point of butchering a pig to shaking hands with the mayor, don't have a doctor or medication, then you're probably going to get sick.


Really? Conspiracy theory?
Didn't I post the article about the CDC combining flu types?

Did I not post the evidence of the "think tanks" calling for creation and use of these genome specific bioweapons?

Then there is this little factoid that happened just before people started popping up sick:

http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/23/2722712-3-vials-of-virus-missing-from-fort-detrick-the-us-armys-primary-biodefence-resarch-facility

Vials of Virus Missing From Fort Detrick, The US Army's Primary Biodefence Resarch Facility

Missing vials of a potentially dangerous virus have prompted an Army investigation into the disappearance from a lab in Maryland.

The Army's Criminal Investigation Command agents have been visiting Fort Detrick in Frederick, Maryland, to investigate the disappearance of the vials. Christopher Grey, spokesman for the command, said this latest investigation has found "no evidence of criminal activity."

The vials contained samples of Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis, a virus that sickens horses and can be spread to humans by mosquitoes. In 97 percent of cases, humans with the virus suffer flu-like symptoms, but it can be deadly in about 1 out of 100 cases, according to Caree Vander Linden, a spokeswoman for the Army's Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. There is an effective vaccine for the disease and there hasn't been an outbreak in the United States since 1971.




What you posted is the fact that viral studies and genetic manipulation is done...NOT that our goverment or some group has purposly (or inadvertantly) released it on a population. I call BS.

FreeToB's photo
Wed 04/29/09 10:58 AM
Edited by FreeToB on Wed 04/29/09 11:07 AM

How many white and black people have actually died from this, not just infected, but died?

I'm still looking and I'm not finding any deaths where the persons skin was much lighter than Cheech Marins.

You're reporting infections, not people who have died from it. Big difference.


Thats exactly the opposite of what the truth is in Mexico. We hear how many DIED but not how many were infected. Mexico is a backward country with nearly no health care or sanitation.

Im curious as to where you "see" all these Mexicans dying of this outside of Mexico, cause I have not seen it anywhere..and I've sure been looking for it. One Mexican kid who is frail and two years old who JUST left Mexico, where he was apparently infected. Where else???

Oh yeah...definately a white mans conspiracy to eliminate Mexicans, and our fruit pickers. Having lived in Phoenix and Houston, areas inundated by illegals and CRIMINALS, I think we should put up that fence and electrify it with fatal voltages. Much more effectve and efficient than some random pig virii.

FreeToB's photo
Wed 04/29/09 11:09 AM

.....it's all just an whacko theory by some guy in a tinfoil hat. And Government loves us all.


Thank you. I agree with the first sentence. Actually the guy is some Mexican convict writing for a prison newspaper. It's ridiculous.

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