I was at the original Woodstock Festival

& i retain a lot of the Hippie & Flower Child Ways ...

I like to sew & make leather stuff & candles & clothes

& get back to nature with gardens as much as possible

I've felt that way since I was little

& I see the need for it more & more each day ...

Especially with the horrors that are going on around us

one of which is a huge one

what monsanto has done to the world's seeds



in fact , i am thinking of posting a thread in regards to it...



look up Monsanto Seeds online




this one & there are many others...



http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_16844.cfm




Monsanto is Putting Normal Seeds Out of Reach
GM Watch, February 12, 2009
Straight to the Source


1. The great seed monopoly
2. The Multiple Ways Monsanto is Putting Normal Seeds Out of Reach

NOTE: Two pieces on the ruthless concentration of corporate power in the seed industry that's allowing Monsanto to drive up costs and aggressively undercut the rights of farmers.
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1. The great seed monopoly

Extracts from ETC Group's report 'Who Owns Nature?'
http://www.etcgroup.org/en/materials/publications.html?pu...

In the first half of the 20th century, seeds were overwhelmingly in the hands of farmers and public-sector plant breeders. In the decades since then, Gene Giants have used intellectual property laws to commodify the world seed supply - a strategy that aims to control plant germplasm and maximize profits by eliminating Farmers' Rights.

Today, the proprietary seed market accounts for a staggering share of the world's commercial seed supply. In less than three decades, a handful of multinational corporations have engineered a fast and furious corporate enclosure of the first link in the food chain.

The world's largest seed company, Monsanto, accounts for almost one-quarter (23%) of the global proprietary seed market.

The top 3 companies (Monsanto, DuPont, Syngenta) together account for $10,282 million, or 47% of the worldwide proprietary seed market.

ETC Group conservatively estimates that the top 3 seed companies control 65% of the proprietary maize seed market worldwide, and over half of the proprietary soybean seed market.

Based on industry statistics, ETC Group estimates that Monsanto's biotech seeds and traits (including those licensed to other companies) accounted for 87% of the total world area devoted to genetically engineered seeds in 2007.

"The lack of competition and innovation in the marketplace has reduced farmers' choices and enabled Monsanto to raise prices unencumbered." - Keith Mudd, Organization for Competitive Markets, following Monsanto's decision to raise some GM maize seed prices by 35%.
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2. The Multiple Ways Monsanto is Putting Normal Seeds Out of Reach
By Linn Cohen-Cole
http://tinyurl.com/db7fnf

People say if farmers don't want problems from Monsanto, just don't buy their GMO seeds.

Not so simple. Where are farmers supposed to get normal seed these days? How are they supposed to avoid contamination of their fields from GM-crops? How are they supposed to stop Monsanto detectives from trespassing or Monsanto from using helicopters to fly over spying on them?

Monsanto contaminates the fields, trespasses onto the land taking samples and if they find any GMO plants growing there (or say they have), they then sue, saying they own the crop. It’s a way to make money since farmers can’t fight back and court and they settle because they have no choice.

And they have done and are doing a bucket load of things to keep farmers and everyone else from having any access at all to buying, collecting, and saving of NORMAL seeds.

1. They’ve bought up the seed companies across the Midwest.

2. They've written Monsanto seed laws
<http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/monsanto/news/10040.htm> and gotten legislators to put them through, that make cleaning, collecting and storing of seeds so onerous in terms of fees and paperwork and testing and tracking every variety and being subject to fines, that having normal seed becomes almost impossible (an NAIS approach to wiping out normal seeds). Does your state have such a seed law? Before they existed, farmers just collected the seeds and put them in sacks in the shed and used them the next year, sharing whatever they wished with friends and neighbors, selling some if they wanted. That's been killed.

In Illinois, which has such a seed law, Madigan, the Speaker of the House, his staff is Monsanto lobbyists.

3. Monsanto is pushing anti-democracy laws (Vilsack's brainchild, actually) that remove community control over their own counties so farmers and citizens can't block the planting of GMO crops even if they can contaminate other crops. So if you don't want a GM-crop that grows industrial chemicals or drugs or a rice growing with human DNA in it, in your area and mixing with your crops, tough luck.

Check the map of just where the Monsanto/Vilsack laws are <http://www.environmentalcommons.org/image/seed-preemption...> and see if your state is still a democracy or is Monsanto’s. A farmer in Illinois told me he heard that Bush had pushed through some regulation that made this true in every state. People need to check on that.

4. For sure there are Monsanto regulations buried in the FDA right now that make a farmer's seed cleaning equipment illegal (another way to leave nothing but GM-seeds) because it’s now considered a "source of seed contamination." Farmer can still seed clean but the equipment now has to be certified and a farmer said it would require a million to a million and half dollar building and equipment … for EACH line of seed. Seed storage facilities are also listed (another million?) and harvesting and transport equipment. And manure. Something that can contaminate seed. Notice that chemical fertilizers and pesticides are not mentioned.

You could eat manure and be okay (a little grossed out but okay). Try that with pesticides and fertilizers. Indian farmers have. Their top choice for how to commit suicide to escape the debt they have been left in is to drink Monsanto pesticides.

5. Monsanto is picking off seed cleaners across the Midwest. In Pilot Grove, Missouri, <http://www.grain.org/bio-ipr/?id=548> in Indiana (Maurice Parr), and now in southern Illinois (Steve Hixon). And they are using US marshals and state troopers and county police <http://www.opednews.com/articles/MONSANTO-investigator-in...> to show up in three cars to serve the poor farmers who had used Hixon as their seed cleaner, telling them that he or their neighbors turned them in, so across that 6 county areas, no one talking to neighbors and people are living in fear and those farming communities are falling apart from the suspicion Monsanto sowed. Hixon’s office got broken into and he thinks someone put a GPS tracking device on his equipment and that’s how Monsanto found between 200-400 customers in very scattered and remote areas, and threatened them all and destroyed his business within 2 days.

So, after demanding that seed cleaners somehow be able to tell one seed from another (or be sued to kingdom come) or corrupting legislatures to put in laws about labeling of seeds that are so onerous no one can cope with them, what is Monsanto's attitude about labeling their own stuff? You guessed it - they're out there pushing laws against ANY labeling of their own GM-food and animals and of any exports to other countries. Why?
http://nonais.org/index.php/2008/02/15/monstersanto-in-ka...

We know, and they know, why.

As Norman Braksick, the president of Asgrow Seed Co. (now owned by Monsanto) predicted in the Kansas City Star (3/7/94) seven years ago, "If you put a label on a genetically engineered food, you might as well put a skull and crossbones on it."

And they've sued dairy farmers for telling the truth about their milk being rBGH-free, though rBGH is associated with an increased risk of breast, colon and prostate cancers.
http://www.keepmainefree.org/suesuesue.html

I just heard that some seed dealers urge farmers to buy the seed under the seed dealer's name, telling the farmers it helps the dealer get a discount on seed to buy a lot under their own name. Then Monsanto sues the poor farmer for buying their seed without a contract and extorts huge sums from them.

Here’s a youtube video that is worth your time. Vandana Shiva is one of the leading anti-Monsanto people in the world. In this video, she says (and this video is old), Monsanto had sued 1500 farmers whose fields had simply been contaminated by GM-crops. Listen to all the ways Monsanto goes after farmers.
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/pubs/CFSMOnsantovsFarm...

Do you know the story of Gandhi in India and how the British had salt laws that taxed salt? The British claimed it as theirs. Gandhi had what was called a Salt Satyagraha, in which people were asked to break the laws and march to the sea and collect the salt without paying the British. A kind of Boston tea party, I guess.

Thousands of people marched 240 miles to the ocean where the British were waiting. As people moved forward to collect the salt, the British soldiers clubbed them but the people kept coming. The non-violent protest exposed the British behavior, which was so revolting to the world that it helped end British control in India.

Vandana Shiva has started a Seed Satyagraha - nonviolent non-cooperation around seed laws - has gotten millions of farmers to sign a pledge to break those laws.
http://www.myhero.com/myhero/hero.asp?hero=Shiva

American farmers and cattlemen might appreciate what Gandhi fought for and what Shiva is bringing back and how much it is about what we are all so angry about - loss of basic freedoms.

The Seed Satyagraha is the name for the nonviolent, noncooperative movement that Dr. Shiva has organized to stand against seed monopolies. According to Dr. Shiva, the name was inspired by Gandhi’s famous walk to the Dandi Beach, where he picked up salt and said, “You can’t monopolize this which we need for life.” But it’s not just the noncooperation aspect of the movement that is influenced by Gandhi. The creative side saving seeds, trading seeds, farming without corporate dependence–without their chemicals, without their seed.

” All this is talked about in the language that Gandhi left us as a legacy. We work with three key concepts.”

” (One) Swadeshi…which means the capacity to do your own thing–produce your own food, produce your own goods….”

“(Two) Swaraj–to govern yourself. And we fight on three fronts–water, food, and seed. JalSwaraj is water independence–water freedom and water sovereignty. Anna Swaraj is food freedom, food sovereignty. And Bija Swaraj is seed freedom and seed sovereignty. Swa means self–that which rises from the self and is very, very much a deep notion of freedom.

“I believe that these concepts, which are deep, deep, deep in Indian civilization, Gandhi resurrected them to fight for freedom. They are very important for today’s world because so far what we’ve had is centralized state rule, giving way now to centralized corporate control, and we need a third alternate. That third alternate is, in part, citizens being able to tell their state, ‘This is what your function is. This is what your obligations are,’
and being able to have their states act on corporations to say,
‘This is something you cannot do.’”

” (Three) Satyagraha, non-cooperation, basically saying,
‘We will do our thing and any law that tries to say that
(our freedom) is illegal… we will have to not cooperate with it.
We will defend our freedoms to have access to water,
access to seed, access to food, access to medicine.’”

Mmmmmm Dandelion tea.

I'll find it rather difficult to mow around the dandelions on my lawn.... anyone else??? yes

& they all eat very healthy mostly vegetarian diets


My Grandchildren are healthy too, and eat only the very best foods mostly


they are trim & beautiful with clean clear eyes, hair & skin



they are not products of the fast food industry w/ a myriad of health problems including acne & obesity

It's quite amusing sometimes how closed some peoples minds are to things. I've changed my outlook on food entirely, I try to eat everything in as natural a form as possible and have eliminated red meat from my diet. My health has improved dramatically, I'm no longer piling on weight as I was with processed foods and, through the new lifestyle, combined with the use of herbal products (including dandelion), my NAFLD has been eliminated within the space of 3 months. 3 months!! And there's no medicine for it. I find milk thistle quite good too, I've switched from coffee/tea to green tea, eliminated dairy. Well done on bringing up your children, I'm sure they're more content and at peace with themselves than most children these days.

Rapunzel, some of my favorite boquets were a fist full of Dandelions. I always leave them. You never know when a child needs a present for mom.

Its true my grandma used to fix them for us

It's quite amusing sometimes how closed some peoples minds are to things. I've changed my outlook on food entirely, I try to eat everything in as natural a form as possible and have eliminated red meat from my diet. My health has improved dramatically, I'm no longer piling on weight as I was with processed foods and, through the new lifestyle, combined with the use of herbal products (including dandelion), my NAFLD has been eliminated within the space of 3 months. 3 months!! And there's no medicine for it. I find milk thistle quite good too, I've switched from coffee/tea to green tea, eliminated dairy. Well done on bringing up your children, I'm sure they're more content and at peace with themselves than most children these days.

lol - epic fail ITT

can't give up red meat. i love it way too much.

but i will spend the extra change to buy the naturally raised meat.

but still.. meat.

OH NOTHING MAKES ME HAPPIER THAN BBQ'D STEAK!

mmmm....

to each their own huh.

can't give up red meat. i love it way too much.

but i will spend the extra change to buy the naturally raised meat.

but still.. meat.

OH NOTHING MAKES ME HAPPIER THAN BBQ'D STEAK!

mmmm....

to each their own huh.

ohhh, that is right ...i remember that too


thank you for the sweet mental picture you painted

of a tiny innocent child with a bouquet of yellow dandelions

being offered up to Mommy or Daddy


with such love & excitement


from his or her little tiny fist

I remember when they were little, but mine didn't stop there.

Last year, two of my sons (both in their 20's) came into the house on Mother's Day, both with their hands behind their backs. Out from behind one son's back came a large bouquet of dandelions and from the other, a pretty bouquet of mixed flowers from the store. They laughed, I laughed, everyone in the house laughed. The store bought bouquet went into a vase. The dandelions went into a glass of water. I kept them until they wilted and had to be thrown out. Every time I looked at them, I could picture my son's yard and see my two boys running around and laughing, picking dandelions as a joke on Mom.

I wonder, do they realize the joy that silly act brought me and even today, still brings?