Robbert the Bugger was the popes right hand man back in the anuls of
time nothing has changed much only the pope

Miles,

I find 28 references to "Cross" in the Bible, in reference to Jesus and
his message.

I find 3 references to "Tree" in the Bible, in reference to Jesus. The
interesting thing is that the word used is "xulon", which is Greek for
"Wood", but it's sometimes used to mean "tree". A cross would be made
out of wood, so I believe it's probable that the translation was just
done incorrectly.

Let me ask you a question, are you a JW?

no way am i a JW. if you look up the 2nd 1/2 of Je-hovah it will show
you that hovah means rebel mischief and as the scriptures say don't even
let it be on your tongue. Do you or would you worship someone whose name
means mischief? Miles

Milesoftheusa,

No, I was just asking the question, because part of JW beliefs is that
Jesus was crucified on a tree. I don't use the word Jehovah, if I
wanted to, I would just use Yahweh instead.

Jehovah is a mistranslation of the word used to describe the name of
god.

It was used in various ways at different times in history.

1530 & later: The first early modern English Bible translators to
transcribe God's name into English did not contact Jewish scholars, and
did not know of the Q're perpetuum custom, but transcribed "יְהֹוָה"
into English as they saw it. It therefore became Iehouah in 1530
(Tyndale's translation of the Pentateuch), Iehovah in 1611, and Jehovah
in 1769, the spelling gradually settling down as Roman alphabet J and V
became distinct letters from I and U. The transcription Iehouah was used
in the 16th century by many authors Roman Catholic and Protestant, but
not Coverdale's Bible translation in 1535. [5]


Even the use of Yahwae as the name of god is disputed.

In the P. Ryl. 458 (perhaps the oldest extant Septuagint manuscript)
there are blank spaces ,leading some scholars to believe that the
Tetragrammaton must have been written where these breaks or blank spaces
are.[18]

Josephus, who as a priest knew the pronunciation of the name, declares
that religion forbids him to divulge it.

Philo calls it ineffable, and says that it is lawful for those only
whose ears and tongues are purified by wisdom to hear and utter it in a
holy place (that is, for priests in the Temple); and in another passage,
commenting on Lev. xxiv. 15 seq.: "If any one, I do not say should
blaspheme against the Lord of men and gods, but should even dare to
utter his name unseasonably, let him expect the penalty of death." [19]

Desire to prevent abuse of the name in magic. If so, the secrecy had the
opposite effect; the name of the god of the Jews was one of the great
names, in magic, heathen as well as Jewish, and miraculous efficacy was
attributed to the mere utterance of it.

The letter j was not in any language untill around the end of the
1400's. The hebrew word associated with hovah is the meaning mischief. I
do not believe Yahweh (YHWH which is in the hebrew scriptures 6900 times
as LORD for YHWH) the name being of great importance. To intentionally
use a false name is breaking of the 3rd commandment. the word vain means
to bring to (desolation,meaningless of no importance) of which our
scriptures have done. Ministers know the real names and yet choose to
use false name which makes them a false diety (anti-messiah) in which we
are commanded not to have on our lips. The 3rd commandment is the only
command that says he will not hold him guiltless which would mean
sinless. The name Yahshua is the true Hebrew saviors name meaning Yahweh
is salvation. Yahweh is the only one who saves. He declares consistantly
"Everyone who calls on the name of Yahweh (YHWH) shall be saved. Hence
our saviors name Yahshua. As acts 4:12 tells us no other name can man be
saved. going on Yahshua said that sins against him would be forgiven but
sins against the Holy Spirit would not. This agrees with the 3rd
commandment of not " holding you guiltless." In Heb. 4:8 the translators
got mixed up when translating the name. Joshua the son of nun had the
same name as he lead Isreal into the promice land as Yahshua leads us.
Yet they had no problem using joshua the son of nun but dilibertly
substatuted JC for Yahshua.
notice for hundreds of years untill the last 40 years or so what this
scripture said...
Heb 4:8

8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have
spoken of another day.
KJV
now the correction...
Heb 4:8

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have
spoken of another day.
NKJV
This is correct Joshua the son of nun could not give them rest. Any
scholar through out history would of known this. What does this mean.
That Yahshua was used through out the New Testament and they
deliberately took it out. As mentioned above of the Jews thinking of if
we do not use it then we can not blaspheme it. Yet the christians have
not wanted anything to do with the Jews and many today don't still. So
if you read the 1st 3 commandments of what Yahweh says about his name
then using a false name you are blaspheming the name. Since the
scriptures say that you are the temple of Yahweh now since the Holy
spirit has come I conclude you are blaspheming the Holy Spirit. And your
sins will not be forgiven. JC is the one fortold by Yahshua himself that
you would believe.
John 5:43
43 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if
another comes in his own name, him you will receive.
NKJV
JC has come in his own name. names do not change. If you were born John
or mark in the USA then your name transliterates in any language as the
same sounds in that language. Yahshua said of moses and John..

John 5:36-47
6 But I have a greater witness than John's; for the works which the
Father has given Me to finish — the very works that I do — bear witness
of Me, that the Father has sent Me. 37 And the Father Himself, who sent
Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time,
nor seen His form. 38 But you do not have His word abiding in you,
because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the
Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are
they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that
you may have life.

41 "I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not
have the love of Yahweh in you. 43 I have come in My Father's name, and
you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will
receive. 44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another,
and do not seek the honor that comes from the only Elohim? 45 Do not
think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses
you — Moses, in whom you trust. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would
believe Me; for he wrote about Me. 47 But if you do not believe his
writings, how will you believe My words?"
NKJV
Very true words today as the Law you have done away.

Mal 3:16-18
Then those who feared Yahweh spoke to one another,
And Yahweh listened and heard them;
So a book of remembrance was written before Him
For those who fear Yahweh
And who meditate on His name.

17 "They shall be Mine," says Yahweh of hosts,
"On the day that I make them My jewels.
And I will spare them
As a man spares his own son who serves him."
18 Then you shall again discern
Between the righteous and the wicked,
Between one who serves Elohim.
And one who does not serve Him.
NKJV
And again as John was a for runner to prepare the way before Yahshua
began his ministry the scriptures tell us ALL things must be restored
before he returns again with vengence.
Mal 4:1-3

"For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,"
Says Yahweh of hosts,
"That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,"
Says Yahweh of hosts.
NKJV
Then just look at his mercy to you that he tells you directly what to
remember just as Yahshua said..

Mal 4:4-5

4 "Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgments.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of YAHWEH.
NKJV
What a blessing that he tells us plainly what to remember. The Question
is will you believe it or will you hold on to your tradition and make
the Torah ( the 5 books of moshe) something done away with calling
people legalists,cultist,and other names for standing up for the word of
Yahweh.
The choice is yours Repent of your sins and recongonize that you and the
whole world has been lied to. Or go on your way and fullfill the lies of
satan/helel. You know Elijah must come but his real name is EliYah
meaning My Elohim Is Yahweh will be his message. Don't believe me
believe the scriptures and see if you have eternal life for yourself.
Miles

Here is an interesting bit.

the first letter of Yahway( or how ever you say it)

translates as YOD.... God?

im going with wonderman on this one HOLY SIR IT.i dont think name
calling matters much.if ya have a good heart and know there is a higher
power ineffable to us all then a name means diddly to ya.

AdventureBegins
Yes and without going deep into the vowels points I will just say that
the vowel points determine the sound in hebrew.But YHWH is where LORD
came from in our bible. Note the capitol letters for LORD to let the
reader know this is Yahweh. Many bible prefaces have this in them
explaining it. Now I know and I do not condemn as I can not or will not
those who refuse to believe. but if your therory is he knows what we
mean and you can call Yahweh another name. then I will leave you with
this..

1 John 4:1-7

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they
are of Yahweh; because many false prophets have gone out into the world
. 2 By this you know the Spirit of Yahweh: Every spirit that confesses
that Yahshua our Messiah has come in the flesh is of Yahweh, 3 and every
spirit that does not confess that Yahshua has come in the flesh is not
of Yahweh. And this is the spirit of the Antimessiah, which you have
heard was coming, and is now already in the world .

4 You are of Yahweh, little children, and have overcome them, because He
who is in you is greater than he who is in the world . 5 They are of the
world . Therefore they speak as of the world , and the world hears them.
6 We are of Yahweh. He who knows Yahweh hears us; he who is not of
Yahweh does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the
spirit of error.
NKJV

1 John 5:1-5

Whoever believes that Yahshua is the Messiah is born of Yahweh, and
everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him.
2 By this we know that we love the children of Elohim, when we love
Yahweh and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of Yahweh, that
we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 4 For
whatever is born of Yahweh overcomes the world . And this is the victory
that has overcome the world — our faith. 5 Who is he who overcomes the
world , but he who believes that Yahshua is the Son of Yahweh?
NKJV
Are you keeping the commandments of men or the commandments of
Yahweh? Miles