There is some interesting news in circulation today

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070525/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

no for America. No, no for the occupation. No, no for Israel,"
Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr





Please no tempered responses ...

Those bastards

The killings raised the American death toll for the month to at least
88. Last month, 104 U.S. troops were killed in Iraq.

Military officials have warned that U.S. casualties were likely to rise
as more troops deployed to Iraq and the military pushed ahead with its
Baghdad security crackdown.

"We have more people on the ground, this leads to an opportunity for
more contact, more conflict, more clashes," said Lt. Col. Christopher
Garver, a U.S. military spokesman.



quoted from the article

'To the Fallen Soldiers'
(Forrest)

"To the Fallen Soldiers"
How do we say thank you to our son's and daughters,
husbands and wives, aunts and uncles, nieces and
nephews, sisters and brothers. How do we say thank you
for putting your lives on the line for us, in a was
that's not ours to fight. After 9/11 you were told
"this is our fight, we must take revenge, because they
have weapons of mass destruction and a plan to use
them on us." But of course the head of State was wrong
about all of that, of course he only wanted to prove a
point. What's the point you say, well his point is
nothing like this was supposed to happen on his shift,
but since it did he must come out victorious. It does
not really matter how many he looses along the way, he
just must be the victor. How many babies won't have
the chance to know their parents, and how many of
those parents won't have the chance to see their
little ones take their first steps, or be there for
their kindergarten promotion. Many father's won't have
the opportunity to walk their little girls down that
wonderful isle of bliss. Think of how many mother's
won't get the help their sons get ready for their
proms or even meet their girl friends. All of this and
why, so that the head of state can be victorious. How
many of his is over there, not the two daughters that
have made the news several times because of their
drunken behavior. So what is he risking, only the
lives of our children, husbands, wives, mothers,
fathers, sisters, brothers, nieces, nephews, aunts,
and uncles. Now they served and died because of the
love they have for God first, for us second and then
for this country, a country that sometimes just don't
care. The time is now to show that we do care, to
thank not only God, but also their families for them
and their sacrifice. You will truly be missed.

To: Dracklag

God Bless You and everyone else in United States Military.

Todd

Come on ppl?

LOL

Reading such articles is more than a frustration, it is an irritant.
The reasons that the US troops became involved at all, seems to have
transpired on two different levels.

level 1 - stack the country in favor of backing an action make it the
peoples ideal:
There was all the hype about terrorism being the new way to wage war.
We were bottle fed information/propagana about weapons of mass
destruction, about poisons, toxins, manufactured diseases. And the UN
who backed this 'information' and required a presence in the areas
believed to harbor such terroist tools.

All bases covered, right? The almost overnight presence of security
within our own country, was shoved in our faces, with what effect? Will
we ever know? How many terrorist attacks were halted due to these
extenuating secure measures? How many citizens were harrassed versus how
many attacks thwarted?

Level 2 - The governments agenda:
We ceased being under the United Nations single sighted objective. We
were suddenly, stretched beyond the goal of finding the threats of
terrorism. Released to the minds of those, already bereaved and daunted
by the attacks of 9/11, were new reports of torture, of oppression in
those lands we sought to make free of harmful weapons of terror. We were
at war.

So are we fighting because there was "suddenly" this new reason, that
we were not aware of. Did our objective become to free the masses from
the reign of terror, of a rich and diabolical source? Are we fighting a
single government foe, whose agenda includes genocide?

These tortures we are suddenly bombarded with, suddenly aware of, are
not new. There were those in Germany in the early days of the holocaust
who were able to get word out, letters sent directly to high powered
officials in our government describing the unthinkable. Yet we took no
action.
This was not an on-going thousand year affiar. These were poeple who
cried out for help when thier country turned against the masses, and we
did nothing. The civil war was not fought to free the slaves, the war
with Germany was not fought to stop the genocide. WHAT ARE WE DOING
IN THE MIDDLE EAST?

In other recent posts there is discussion that attempts to track the
beginnings of the conflicts, the constant battles among the poeple of
these lands we have infiltrated. Folks, we are looking at hundreds of
generations of rivalry, change, oppression, suppression all in the name
of religion. WHY ARE WE SUDDENLY TAKING NOTICE?

Our presence there can only be for one purpose. WHAT IS THAT PURPOSE?

We can not free those who are oppressed without changing the concept
of their religions. They are not, have not ever been ruled by
government free of religious doctrine. They hate us because we do not
follow a government filled with thier morals.

Should we stop any potential take overs from terrorist governments of
peaceful nations - ABSOLUTELY. IS THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING?

ANSWERS that this government is not giving us. Quesitons that are
asked because the issues we should be addressing as a militia are under
scrutiny.

This government had an agenda from the beginning. What has taken
place some years prior to 9/11 through today, has unfolded far too
maticulously to be considered a series of cause and affects.

I have no doubt that if this country was ruled by religious doctrine,
we would be fed some Biblical interpretation that implied a prophecy was
being fulfilled. kariZ is right about this. The false fulfillment of
prophecy is so easy to dictate to those who want to believe.

If this govenment can not provide the answers we need, then we are
sending our troops, some of our best future resouces to their death,
under false rule.

I would kill, if I could, an army of thousands, to protect the
genocide and torture of millions. But millions is beyond the mark at
this point, for hundreds of generations have not, themselves, found a
way to peace.

Perhaps not good news for those with agendas in the small ways of the
world.

Perhaps good news for the World itself.