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| Topic: Scientist: Carbon Dioxide Doesn't Cause Global Warming | |
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the reason we have oil right now is because millenia ago the atmosphere spiked with CO2. the plants and especially the algae and plankton in the oceans thrived and stored all of that carbon. then pressure and heat turned the carbon into coal and oil problem is that the plant life stored that carbon over several hundred thousand years but by burning it at the rate we do, we are releasing that carbon back in to the atmosphere over a period of a hundred years I fully expect that the global warming (indisputable) is prolly man made, even though as they say one volcano will release a thousand times more carbon that the total of the history of mankind problem is unless we can kill of about half the human race, it isnt gonna change. we can convert to a totally green technology and still wont affect the atmosphere for a hundred years. There is a lag time between carbon levels in the atmosphere and the effects we have on it. What we are seeing now is the result of the 60's and 70's pollution levels. The onus on mankind isnt so much to try and modify the climate systems (we always screw stuff like that up) but to adapt to the changing climate and still learn how to thrive as a species in the new climate Quiet, You are dead on with the problem with population. However, the comment about volcanoes is an oft repeated internet myth. The actual contribution of volcanoes to CO2 is small. Here is the real facts from the USGS website. Begin Quote: Gas studies at volcanoes worldwide have helped volcanologists tally up a global volcanic CO2 budget in the same way that nations around the globe have cooperated to determine how much CO2 is released by human activity through the burning of fossil fuels. Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually. This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value." End quote: |
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the reason we have oil right now is because millenia ago the atmosphere spiked with CO2. the plants and especially the algae and plankton in the oceans thrived and stored all of that carbon. then pressure and heat turned the carbon into coal and oil problem is that the plant life stored that carbon over several hundred thousand years but by burning it at the rate we do, we are releasing that carbon back in to the atmosphere over a period of a hundred years I fully expect that the global warming (indisputable) is prolly man made, even though as they say one volcano will release a thousand times more carbon that the total of the history of mankind problem is unless we can kill of about half the human race, it isnt gonna change. we can convert to a totally green technology and still wont affect the atmosphere for a hundred years. There is a lag time between carbon levels in the atmosphere and the effects we have on it. What we are seeing now is the result of the 60's and 70's pollution levels. The onus on mankind isnt so much to try and modify the climate systems (we always screw stuff like that up) but to adapt to the changing climate and still learn how to thrive as a species in the new climate Quiet, You are dead on with the problem with population. However, the comment about volcanoes is an oft repeated internet myth. The actual contribution of volcanoes to CO2 is small. Here is the real facts from the USGS website. Begin Quote: Gas studies at volcanoes worldwide have helped volcanologists tally up a global volcanic CO2 budget in the same way that nations around the globe have cooperated to determine how much CO2 is released by human activity through the burning of fossil fuels. Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually. This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value." End quote: LOL That is cute but we do need to not add anymore to it if possible. |
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the reason we have oil right now is because millenia ago the atmosphere spiked with CO2. the plants and especially the algae and plankton in the oceans thrived and stored all of that carbon. then pressure and heat turned the carbon into coal and oil problem is that the plant life stored that carbon over several hundred thousand years but by burning it at the rate we do, we are releasing that carbon back in to the atmosphere over a period of a hundred years I fully expect that the global warming (indisputable) is prolly man made, even though as they say one volcano will release a thousand times more carbon that the total of the history of mankind problem is unless we can kill of about half the human race, it isnt gonna change. we can convert to a totally green technology and still wont affect the atmosphere for a hundred years. There is a lag time between carbon levels in the atmosphere and the effects we have on it. What we are seeing now is the result of the 60's and 70's pollution levels. The onus on mankind isnt so much to try and modify the climate systems (we always screw stuff like that up) but to adapt to the changing climate and still learn how to thrive as a species in the new climate Quiet, You are dead on with the problem with population. However, the comment about volcanoes is an oft repeated internet myth. The actual contribution of volcanoes to CO2 is small. Here is the real facts from the USGS website. Begin Quote: Gas studies at volcanoes worldwide have helped volcanologists tally up a global volcanic CO2 budget in the same way that nations around the globe have cooperated to determine how much CO2 is released by human activity through the burning of fossil fuels. Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually. This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value." End quote: BUT ONE OF OBAMAS SPEECHES CREATES OVER A TRILLION MEG A TONNES OF CO2 EMMISSIONS........   |
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the reason we have oil right now is because millenia ago the atmosphere spiked with CO2. the plants and especially the algae and plankton in the oceans thrived and stored all of that carbon. then pressure and heat turned the carbon into coal and oil problem is that the plant life stored that carbon over several hundred thousand years but by burning it at the rate we do, we are releasing that carbon back in to the atmosphere over a period of a hundred years I fully expect that the global warming (indisputable) is prolly man made, even though as they say one volcano will release a thousand times more carbon that the total of the history of mankind problem is unless we can kill of about half the human race, it isnt gonna change. we can convert to a totally green technology and still wont affect the atmosphere for a hundred years. There is a lag time between carbon levels in the atmosphere and the effects we have on it. What we are seeing now is the result of the 60's and 70's pollution levels. The onus on mankind isnt so much to try and modify the climate systems (we always screw stuff like that up) but to adapt to the changing climate and still learn how to thrive as a species in the new climate Quiet, You are dead on with the problem with population. However, the comment about volcanoes is an oft repeated internet myth. The actual contribution of volcanoes to CO2 is small. Here is the real facts from the USGS website. Begin Quote: Gas studies at volcanoes worldwide have helped volcanologists tally up a global volcanic CO2 budget in the same way that nations around the globe have cooperated to determine how much CO2 is released by human activity through the burning of fossil fuels. Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually. This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value." End quote: BUT ONE OF OBAMAS SPEECHES CREATES OVER A TRILLION MEG A TONNES OF CO2 EMMISSIONS........ Actually you may be on to something. If we took every politician in the world and threw them into the nearest active volcano we would stop a lot of hot air from being produced... 
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Too bad you are unaware that the "paper" you mentioned was shot down as being one of the worst pieces of science in existence. Mocking adds nothing to your lack of knowledge on the topic. It merely highlights a lack of real information. Where? He make a number of speeches and submitted the speeches as papers (they are on the net) and all defend the "science" he used in his book. They all say the same thing. An analysis of his methods and data show that it was "stacked". He took local data and made global predictions and conclusions based on the data. Here is a website that "debunks" what any legitimate scientific person could tell right off the bat. His data was hand picked to show what he wanted it to show. http://permaculturetokyo.blogspot.com/2006/02/debunking-michael-crichtons-state-of.html Michael Crichton's logic, if you are even familiar with it, includes such statements as "How can we tell we are killing species in the rain forest where we have never been?" The stupidity of this type of thinking is why he was shunned. I did a website on mingle and linked to the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute which in turn has gathered actual sample data from all over the world including historical data from ice cores and ocean bed sentiments. They have the best scientific reputation in the world. So, in effect, I have already "put up". http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=11939 Is this all you have? Insults and a reference to fiction? |
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But really, we should probably have side conversations by email. hahahaha you don't know many ADD's do you the whole world IS a side conversation did you know that magnesium contains its own oxygen source and if it catches on fire its impossible to extinguish? oh! look at the bird! |
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Thu 10/08/09 01:35 PM
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actually I'm semi familiar with Woods Hole
they are pretty credible |
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Ahh thanks for this post!! Although expect some to try and go against this. As Gomer Pyle used to say "Gaaw-aawl-ly" - "Surprise, surprise, surprise C02 is a necessity for living things to survive, those that propose the opposite are biting their own hands off just for their political agenda. To hell with what we need, lets prove ole "righty" wrong, "righty" is bad. Yeah Yeah yeah, talk to the hand. We all exhale carbon dioxide, maybe if we shut up those idiotic polishi*tans we can reduce the C02 emissions drastically.  Maybe this would help... http://mingle2.com/topic/show/250053 |
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But really, we should probably have side conversations by email. hahahaha you don't know many ADD's do you the whole world IS a side conversation did you know that magnesium contains its own oxygen source and if it catches on fire its impossible to extinguish? oh! look at the bird! Elemental magnesium contains it's own oxygen?! |
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Makes you wonder what exactly is going on. You have scientist on both sides telling us different things. Guess it depends on who's pockets they are in. All though it seems more and more are going against the whole global warming thing, or climate change as they are calling it now. What ever happen to the hole in the ozone haven't heard of that in years. Guess it's not the flavor of the day. I don't wonder at all. As long as the government is allowed to continue to unconstitutionally "regulate" the environment(viz a viz the EPA and other unconstitutional agencies and laws), it will continue to be about politics, not real science or environmentalism.  
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