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Topic: Zeitgeist
hellkitten54's photo
Thu 11/26/09 09:56 PM
What are your thoughts? I can give the link, it's a 2 hour doc. I really suggest EVERYONE watch this with a very open mind please. : )

Do not go in with expectations, just think of it as a learning experience.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197#


It all makes sense now.

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 11/26/09 10:00 PM
Seen it..own it..love it!

A new way of thinking indeed..I made my boys watch in several hour increments.
At least to give them a different perspective...
Yes, an open mind is needed, then time to ponder, even meditate some, or pray, which ever is your thing.

causality's photo
Thu 11/26/09 10:43 PM
how did people not realize that was what was happening before all that though?

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 11/26/09 10:57 PM

how did people not realize that was what was happening before all that though?


It's not the only thing out there..many have talked of such things for a very long time. There are some from my generation..(the 70's) who spoke of these things, were thought of as pot smoking freaks back then. What I find interesting about this is it is so many young people who are keeping up on it. I have many my son's age..mid 20's and up that come and tell me things and send me to different sites, then I show them things..and we have great discussions. The young people I know are bright, sharp and on it...
Most of them are Indigo's..some raging Indigo's, like my oldest son.

hellkitten54's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:11 AM

how did people not realize that was what was happening before all that though?


I can't tell you this. But I know that we are screwed.

I wish people would open their eyes and think for themselves. Why do they trust everything the government or the church say to them?

The three parts to this doc are very eye opening. I wrote down names of people they talked about and gonna do my own research. I wish there was something we could do.

Audit the Fed would be GREAT!

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:17 AM
Audit the FED would be..will be tricky. Some believe that is why John Kennedy was murdered..he was working on that. Factual..who knows, has been rumored for along time.

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:30 AM
How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:34 AM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Fri 11/27/09 08:35 AM
I've never seen it. I have time now...I'll go watch it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197#

Edit: Maybe not. frown It says it's not available right now.

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:48 AM
Edited by Ladylid2012 on Fri 11/27/09 08:49 AM

How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

This information has been around long before youtube...it can all be researched if one wanted to do so.


edit to say to Ruth..I think you will find it very interesting.

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:51 AM


How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

This information has been around long before youtube...it can all be researched if one wanted to do so.


edit to say to Ruth..I think you will find it very interesting.



Im sure many of the details have,, my statement was that details(however factual) can be handpicked in such a way as to support what someone believes already and sometimes can even be deceptive in the way they are strung together. Like many accuse bible thumpers of doing,, taking bits and pieces to support a belief,,,the net is full of sites and videos which do the same thing.

hellkitten54's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:53 AM
Edited by hellkitten54 on Fri 11/27/09 08:54 AM



How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

This information has been around long before youtube...it can all be researched if one wanted to do so.


edit to say to Ruth..I think you will find it very interesting.



Im sure many of the details have,, my statement was that details(however factual) can be handpicked in such a way as to support what someone believes already and sometimes can even be deceptive in the way they are strung together. Like many accuse bible thumpers of doing,, taking bits and pieces to support a belief,,,the net is full of sites and videos which do the same thing.


Have you watched it?


Ruth, you can go here to watch.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:53 AM



How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

This information has been around long before youtube...it can all be researched if one wanted to do so.


edit to say to Ruth..I think you will find it very interesting.



Im sure many of the details have,, my statement was that details(however factual) can be handpicked in such a way as to support what someone believes already and sometimes can even be deceptive in the way they are strung together. Like many accuse bible thumpers of doing,, taking bits and pieces to support a belief,,,the net is full of sites and videos which do the same thing.


I understand what you are saying...

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:54 AM



How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

This information has been around long before youtube...it can all be researched if one wanted to do so.


edit to say to Ruth..I think you will find it very interesting.



Im sure many of the details have,, my statement was that details(however factual) can be handpicked in such a way as to support what someone believes already and sometimes can even be deceptive in the way they are strung together. Like many accuse bible thumpers of doing,, taking bits and pieces to support a belief,,,the net is full of sites and videos which do the same thing.



I agree. Which is why you have to watch and read everything. Then apply what you have learned to your own personal experience and make the best decision you can on the combination. And, of course, always staying open to the possibility that new information could come along to change your views.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:54 AM


Ruth, you can go here to watch.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


Thanks! happy

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:56 AM




How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

This information has been around long before youtube...it can all be researched if one wanted to do so.


edit to say to Ruth..I think you will find it very interesting.



Im sure many of the details have,, my statement was that details(however factual) can be handpicked in such a way as to support what someone believes already and sometimes can even be deceptive in the way they are strung together. Like many accuse bible thumpers of doing,, taking bits and pieces to support a belief,,,the net is full of sites and videos which do the same thing.



I agree. Which is why you have to watch and read everything. Then apply what you have learned to your own personal experience and make the best decision you can on the combination. And, of course, always staying open to the possibility that new information could come along to change your views.



This is difficult for Christians to grasp...you will understand why when you see it.

hellkitten54's photo
Fri 11/27/09 08:59 AM




How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

This information has been around long before youtube...it can all be researched if one wanted to do so.


edit to say to Ruth..I think you will find it very interesting.



Im sure many of the details have,, my statement was that details(however factual) can be handpicked in such a way as to support what someone believes already and sometimes can even be deceptive in the way they are strung together. Like many accuse bible thumpers of doing,, taking bits and pieces to support a belief,,,the net is full of sites and videos which do the same thing.



I agree. Which is why you have to watch and read everything. Then apply what you have learned to your own personal experience and make the best decision you can on the combination. And, of course, always staying open to the possibility that new information could come along to change your views.



:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/27/09 09:06 AM




How much of anything on the internet or youtube is 'FACTUAL"?

I take it all with a grain of salt and most of it as selected details to support peoples own pre determined beliefs.

This information has been around long before youtube...it can all be researched if one wanted to do so.


edit to say to Ruth..I think you will find it very interesting.



Im sure many of the details have,, my statement was that details(however factual) can be handpicked in such a way as to support what someone believes already and sometimes can even be deceptive in the way they are strung together. Like many accuse bible thumpers of doing,, taking bits and pieces to support a belief,,,the net is full of sites and videos which do the same thing.



I agree. Which is why you have to watch and read everything. Then apply what you have learned to your own personal experience and make the best decision you can on the combination. And, of course, always staying open to the possibility that new information could come along to change your views.




Thanks, I happen to be a Christian who does just that. My own personal experience along with the good book and other details of life lead me to my conclusions about God. I respect others right to come to their own conclusions based upon THEIR lives and the details they come across to back their belief.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/27/09 09:13 AM

I respect others right to come to their own conclusions based upon THEIR lives and the details they come across to back their belief.


I don't specifically look for details to back my personal beliefs. I examine them all. That's how I ended up where I am. I was a very devout Christian and Catholic for years. I still hold to many of the Catholic rituals/traditions because I came to love them. But, it was through studying and keeping an open mind that I came to where I am now. It was a difficult and scary process. When you become open to challenging your own belief system that you grew up with, it can kind of be like standing on shaky ground in the middle of a major earthquake. It's not a pleasant feeling and it was very scary. But, if you can do it, you'll end up better for it on the other side. Whether you end up changing your beliefs or not, it is an empowering process that will make you that much more comfortable with your belief system. Whatever that may be.

Okay, off to watch the movie. waving

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/27/09 09:15 AM


I respect others right to come to their own conclusions based upon THEIR lives and the details they come across to back their belief.


I don't specifically look for details to back my personal beliefs. I examine them all. That's how I ended up where I am. I was a very devout Christian and Catholic for years. I still hold to many of the Catholic rituals/traditions because I came to love them. But, it was through studying and keeping an open mind that I came to where I am now. It was a difficult and scary process. When you become open to challenging your own belief system that you grew up with, it can kind of be like standing on shaky ground in the middle of a major earthquake. It's not a pleasant feeling and it was very scary. But, if you can do it, you'll end up better for it on the other side. Whether you end up changing your beliefs or not, it is an empowering process that will make you that much more comfortable with your belief system. Whatever that may be.

Okay, off to watch the movie. waving



I agree, its wonderful you kept an open mind but many only claim to and ignore any details that dont support their belief.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/27/09 10:12 AM
Just finished watching part 1. I thought I knew this stuff, but I had no idea. This is mind blowing, even for a Pagan, alien-believing, conspiracy theorist like myself.

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