So I have opened up a thread for those who want to examine the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict in terms of whether it fits or confirms
your Biblical point of view.

AB, Spider, Wonderman37 and whoever else has this belief, please
consider this thread yours.

I look foreward to reading about the Bible and the light it sheds on the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

So, what is this light?

This thread belongs to you.

Oceans

What makes this israeli conflict diffrent from the last 5000 years and
weren't they all foretold in scriptures. Wars and rumors of wars and
time marches on. When the gold dome on the rock is destroyed then the
end is near until then just more wars and sadly more casualties among
the innocent. Gods chosen people have known little or no peace on this
earth.

Rodney, thanks.

Can you say more? What do you mean by the 'end'?

Ezekiel 38-39 tells that Gog and Magog (the leader of Russia and Russia)
and Persia (Iran) will attack Israel and their armies will be destroyed
by fire from the sky. When this happens, we are told that the whole
world will know that God is the LORD.

Why are Russia and Magog equated?

Why is destruction needed before God being the Lord is recognized?

Are God and Lord two different things?

Magog was Japheth's son who went north to Russia. The Greeks call them
the Scythians. The Arabs call the Great Wall of China "the wall of Al
Magog".

Because people have hard hearts.

Lord can mean God, but it doesn't always. LORD always means God. If
you read the mentioned scriptures it says several times (God speaking
here) "and they will know that I am the LORD".

Spider, Are the Palestinians the descendents of the Phillistines?

I don't think so, but some of them might be. From what I understand
(and I haven't studied the subject) the Phillistines were probably
Greeks. It would probably be a good subject to study.

Hi, Rproman

When we say 'Palestinians' we are not referring to a tribe. It refers
simply to the people who live in Palestine or who lived there until they
were refugeed. Some are Muslim, some Christian, some Jewish, some
Orthodox, some agnostic, some aetheist, etc.

I don't know about ancient tribal descendencies. What is the story on
the Philistines?

If you give me the linguistic roots of Philistine, I can compare them to
the roots for Palestine, and we could likely determine whether they are
the same linguistically.

Oceans

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/meaning.html

To take that further, the Philistines and Jews warred, at some point,
the Jews won and the Philistines and Jews became one.

So the origin shows there is no Place called Palestine, there never was,
the modern usage is a political play used by Syria, Egypt, and Jordan.

Why don't you say more of what you think?

This is YOUR thread! Go for it. Don't have the beat about the bushes,
here!

I consider myself an illiterate with regard of what things the bible can
fortell, and we are living nowadays.
I read the bible more in the context of what can I learn that I can
benefit myself in my relation with God, my brothers and sisters, and
myself.
I believe the ISreali-Palestnian conflict, responds more to the constant
hunger the human race have to have more power.
The tenedency this race have dominate and crush its peers.
As any other war regardless what excuses the governments use to justify
war.
Like the bushy guy in WAshington, he can say anything, but the war in
Iraq it's a non-sense that respond to his own financial interests.

Regards.

TLW

God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm a thread killer

Hey, Walker

I asked the Bible experts what the Biblical prophecies have to do with
the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, thinking that there would be a lot to
discuss....but not much after all, I guess.

Maybe the Bible is simply irrelevant to current affairs?

Oceans

my friend oceans, you are asking a question that goes beyond the
"expertise" of most of those "experts."

OK, I'll settle for opinions!

But I hear people who believe if the Bible literally say so much about
Palestine and Israeli, I was hoping for some real posting here....

Also, about the question of whether the Bible is really the word of God.
Opinion seems to be all over the place on this question, and Christians
seem to fight amongst themselves on this, so it is confusing.

So I hope someone will post what they think on this, or any information
they have....

The Bible foretells so many conflicts in that area of the world it would
be hard to pinpoint one single prophesy that relates to this particular
conflict.

Would be an interesting study.

Hello, AB,

That would have been my guess too, but there seem so many people here
who are trying to interpret what is going on there now with some
specific prophecy in the Bible. This leads them to take political
positions on the conflict that seem to have little basis in reality and
to, as I said earlier, 'force-fit' the present conflict into the
Biblical prophecy.

I am trying to find out what the prophecy is that they are referring to,
and then to understand its implications and the expectations it creates
for the future.

But so far no one seems to be able to explain all this.

Oceans

Not being Catholic nor christian, but having been educated as both under
Nuns for the first 15 years of my ife, I think I am at least familiar
with the Bible. But having read many other books, I consider that the
whole thing is interpretative. If not, who can explain to me, how two
very different cultures can share most of the same experiences and
Teachings?

Is like the Law. It is interpretative.

Hi, Alada!

Can you say more about what you mean, interpretive?

Thanks.

Oceans