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Topic: Christian and gay
CandieGirl841's photo
Wed 05/19/10 12:08 PM
Hey all! I know there are a lot of skeptics out there, but it really is possible to be Christian and gay. I'm trying to find a girl who loves God as much as I do, and I've found that it's hard to do. Any suggestions or comments?

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Wed 05/19/10 12:27 PM
I don't know why there should be a seperation between being Christian and gay. Many in the Christian community look down on us as gays but that is their problem. Christ loves everyone!

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Wed 05/19/10 12:43 PM
That's true, and it annoys me so much. I went through a rigorous application process to be a small group leader on my campus, and they offered me the position. After I came out to them, they immediately told me I could not be a leader and that I'm lucky they didn't kick me out of the group all-together, yet they don't have a problem with promiscuous people. I am so tired of being lectured and looked down on for something I cannot control. I'm sure you have experienced similar situations?

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Wed 05/19/10 12:48 PM
Yes I have, I think we all have similar stories. Being in the midwest is difficult because everyone is so up tight about it around, They are so afraid that they might catch being gay if they associate with one. Some people are so uneducated!!!

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Wed 05/19/10 02:09 PM

Hey all! I know there are a lot of skeptics out there, but it really is possible to be Christian and gay. I'm trying to find a girl who loves God as much as I do, and I've found that it's hard to do. Any suggestions or comments?



AS much as one can be an adulterer and christian or an idol worshiper and a christian. There is a difference between being a fallable human who strives to do 'right' but fails, and being a fallable human who strives to continue their mistakes ,,,,,


I do think one can be a christian who is sinning, but I dont think a christian embraces sin or defends it. JMHO

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Wed 05/19/10 04:31 PM

Hey all! I know there are a lot of skeptics out there, but it really is possible to be Christian and gay. I'm trying to find a girl who loves God as much as I do, and I've found that it's hard to do. Any suggestions or comments?


of course someone can be a Christian and still be gay. Kind of an oxymoron but it can happen cause the word christian these days is just a title for the belief in God. It's kind of an oxymoron cause it specifically tells us that homosexuality is an abomination. Kind of along the same lines as a man walking around claiming to be a woman and or vice versa.

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Wed 05/19/10 04:58 PM
I had some friends who were lesbians at the nursing home. They were both nice to me. Was my first encounter with Redneck lesbians as I have been around other lesbians before. One of them referred to the other as her ol' lady but when I asked the other one she said the other was her ol' lady. I told the first one that she was just confusing me now. The first younger ol' lady would hug me and I was worried because I didn't want to make the other one jealous of me. So I confronted the older 'ol lady and told her that the younger 'ol lady said that she the older 'ol lady was her ol' lady. But the older 'ol said the younger 'ol lady had it wrong because the younger 'ol lady was her 'ol lady. So I got up my nerve and hugged the older 'ol lady in front of the younger 'ol lady and the younger 'ol lady smiled. The younger 'ol said that it made her day since she told me the 'ol lady thought that I didn't like her. It made me think of my ex 'ol lady because my ex 'ol lady never liked being called an 'ol lady but to them being called an 'ol lady was okay. They moved away but did write for a while. I still am not sure who the real 'ol lady was though.:smile:

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Wed 05/19/10 05:35 PM
rainbowtrout, I got super confused in all the " 'ol lady"s lol.
gh and ms, I appreciate your opinions, but God is my One and Only. I'm not calling myself a Christian just to look good and not actually follow through with it. He is my reason for breathing and I'm currently studying to go into medical missions so I can devote my life to Him. I'm not saying this to sound "high and mighty" or something, I just don't appreciate being told I'm a "fake" Christian because I'm gay. If being gay was a choice, I definitely would not have chosen it, therefore it cannot be a sin. And even if it is, I know that I am still God's child and He loves me.

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Wed 05/19/10 05:59 PM

rainbowtrout, I got super confused in all the " 'ol lady"s lol.
gh and ms, I appreciate your opinions, but God is my One and Only. I'm not calling myself a Christian just to look good and not actually follow through with it. He is my reason for breathing and I'm currently studying to go into medical missions so I can devote my life to Him. I'm not saying this to sound "high and mighty" or something, I just don't appreciate being told I'm a "fake" Christian because I'm gay. If being gay was a choice, I definitely would not have chosen it, therefore it cannot be a sin. And even if it is, I know that I am still God's child and He loves me.



of course, I was not calling you fake,, just giving my opinion regarding the title of christian vs the life of christianity

feelings arent a choice but actions are. If someone has feelings that are not necessarily in sync with what the bible teaches,,,that is one thing

when someone ACTS in a way that in not in sync with what the bible teaches,, that is quite another

I battle myself with bisexual FEELINGS but I do not lead a bisexual lifestyle or embrace bisexuality

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Wed 05/19/10 06:13 PM

rainbowtrout, I got super confused in all the " 'ol lady"s lol.


Well, God didn't have an 'ol lady and neither did Jesus. But God did have Satan to contend with as did Jesus. Satan didn't tempt God as far as I know. But they did have this fallout in heaven. Of course this was before pants were invented so it would be hard to say who wore the pants in the relationship. Chances are neither wore the pants since pants weren't invented, yet. Satan back then was kinda like Eve in as they neither really did say much.

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Wed 05/19/10 06:33 PM

I had some friends who were lesbians at the nursing home. They were both nice to me. Was my first encounter with Redneck lesbians as I have been around other lesbians before. One of them referred to the other as her ol' lady but when I asked the other one she said the other was her ol' lady. I told the first one that she was just confusing me now. The first younger ol' lady would hug me and I was worried because I didn't want to make the other one jealous of me. So I confronted the older 'ol lady and told her that the younger 'ol lady said that she the older 'ol lady was her ol' lady. But the older 'ol said the younger 'ol lady had it wrong because the younger 'ol lady was her 'ol lady. So I got up my nerve and hugged the older 'ol lady in front of the younger 'ol lady and the younger 'ol lady smiled. The younger 'ol said that it made her day since she told me the 'ol lady thought that I didn't like her. It made me think of my ex 'ol lady because my ex 'ol lady never liked being called an 'ol lady but to them being called an 'ol lady was okay. They moved away but did write for a while. I still am not sure who the real 'ol lady was though.:smile:



?????noway ????noway slaphead slaphead :laughing: :laughing:

RainbowTrout's photo
Wed 05/19/10 06:45 PM
I once thought I was gay but the treatment center told me that was just male bonding. I remember bonding with my dog growing up. He was a good dog.:smile:

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/19/10 07:10 PM

I once thought I was gay but the treatment center told me that was just male bonding. I remember bonding with my dog growing up. He was a good dog.:smile:



lol.. that is kind of how I feel about adolescence,, kids dont know WHAT They feel,, its alot of hormones,,,,and a very impressionable time when they just want to 'fit in' somewhere.

it puzzles me that so many 'expert' speak on behalf of what a teens 'sexuality' is....,,,it takes a whole lot more life to come to those conclusions and a whole lot more experience than just some hormones and confusing emotions...

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Wed 05/19/10 08:08 PM

rainbowtrout, I got super confused in all the " 'ol lady"s lol.
gh and ms, I appreciate your opinions, but God is my One and Only. I'm not calling myself a Christian just to look good and not actually follow through with it. He is my reason for breathing and I'm currently studying to go into medical missions so I can devote my life to Him. I'm not saying this to sound "high and mighty" or something, I just don't appreciate being told I'm a "fake" Christian because I'm gay. If being gay was a choice, I definitely would not have chosen it, therefore it cannot be a sin. And even if it is, I know that I am still God's child and He loves me.


the flesh desires lots of sinful actions, the flesh is sinful. That's where Heaven is a reward, it is a reward for overcoming the flesh. You will be faced with trouble in this area, but still nevertheless is sinful and a discrace. No insult intended, but your logic doesn't make much sence, it is always a choice. For example:

Doing drugs is a sin cause it destroys the temple of God. People get addicted, and with the higher powered drugs a NEED for it, they feel they couldn't live without that drug. They still need to overcome that urge though nevertheless. Same with murdering, alot of people murder for the high and addreniline rush they get from it.

That is what our job is we need to do to receive the great gift of heaven, we have to overcome all fleshly desires, doesn't matter if we entensly enjoy that action, still a discrace nevertheless.

Bottom line, EVERYTHING is a choice. In a sence, we are actually the ones that CHOOSE weather we get into heaven or not but the actions we take on earth. For we know sinning is of Satan and has no heavanly reward and still do it is like chooseing to go to hell in a beat around the bush kinda way of looking at it.

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Wed 05/19/10 08:11 PM
You can be a Christian and do what ever you want but is there any point calling yourself a Christian if you are going to live a life other than what the bible tells you to do?Nobody is perfect and we all have our problems.But if you are going to be a Christian then you should follow the bible,not disobey Christ,and not disobey God.Could you imagine what kind of church we would have if everyone including the pastor just told us to do what ever we wanted including adultery,stealing,blasphemy,sodomy,murder,and everything else just because everyone in the church thought it was the right thing to do and not what the bible said?You are also not going to have me believe that "you were born that way".Millions of gay people have said the same thing only to fall in love and get married to someone of the opposite sex.You have the free will to date and love anyone you please anytime you want.



The reason Christians have such a hard time getting along with the gays and lesbians who are Christians,is because the gays and lesbians knowing they are sinning,know they are going against Gods word,know they are rebelling and not only do not want to stop and in the case of gay marriage make a life long commitment to rebel against God.God and Jesus said over and over that sin must never be accepted and always rejected.You will not find a single verse where God or Jesus accepts sin,embraces sin,or allows sin.Many gays always use the cop out that Jesus will love me no matter what I do.This is not true.God and Jesus never said they will love you no matter what you do.The bible have hundreds of verses that say that when you are sinning and rebelling against God and Jesus then he will turn away from you and not answer your prayers.It is even worse when you are a Christian and you know you are breaking Gods laws but do it anyways.


(1 Corinthians 5:9-11)
"When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin. But I wasn't talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or who are greedy or are swindlers or idol worshippers. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that.What I meant was that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a Christian, yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or a drunkard, or a swindler. Don't even eat with such people."



What would Jesus say to a gay person?The same thing he said to Mary when she was about to be stoned."Sin no more".He would not accept the gay lifestyle because it is a sin.

I'm gay and I will continue to be gay is the same as saying...

I'm a thief and will not stop stealing.
I'm a adultery and want to keep being a adulter my whole life.
I am a murder and want to kill some more.
I'm a blasphemer and will not stop.


If you are a real Christian you will never embrace sin.I don't care if I am unpopular with the political correct crowd.I also don't care what the other so called Christians on this site say.I don't embrace sin.Christians including gay Christians who tell me I should embrace sin are no friends of mine.I don't care if you are the nicest person in the world.


Here is some bible verses for you.

"How terrible that you should boast about your spirituality, and yet you let this sort of thing go on. Don't you realize that if even one person is allowed to go on sinning, soon all will be affected? Remove this wicked person from among you so that you can stay pure." (NLT) - 1 Corinthians 6-7

(I Corinthians 6:9-10) 9 Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortioners, will inherit the Kingdom of God.

(I Corinthians 6:18-20) 18 Flee sexual immorality! “Every sin that a man does is outside the body,” but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or don’t you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought with a price. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

(John 12:43) 43 for they loved men’s praise more than God’s praise.

(Luke 13:3) 3 I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all perish in the same way.


(James 1:15) 15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death.

(John 8:34) 34 Jesus answered them, "“Most certainly I tell you, everyone who commits sin is the bondservant of sin.

(John 8:11) 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” Jesus said, "“Neither do I condemn you. Go your way. From now on, sin no more.”

(Hebrews 13:4) 4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the bed be undefiled: but God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers.

(Ephesians 5:5) 5 Know this for sure, that no sexually immoral person, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and God.

(Galatians 6:7-8) 7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.








CandieGirl841's photo
Wed 05/19/10 08:21 PM
I know that sin separates us from God, but do you know any verses that clearly state that homosexuality is a sin? other than leviticus and the old testament, because that also says that eating shellfish, shaving your beard, and mixing two types of fibers together in your clothes (cotton) are abominations.

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Wed 05/19/10 08:33 PM

I know that sin separates us from God, but do you know any verses that clearly state that homosexuality is a sin? other than leviticus and the old testament, because that also says that eating shellfish, shaving your beard, and mixing two types of fibers together in your clothes (cotton) are abominations.


well why say other then leviticus? What's it matter if more then one verse says homosexuality is an abomination? When you tell your children to do something, shouldn't it only take one time? Don't you get frustrated if you have to repeat yourself? Why wouldn't God feel the same?

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Wed 05/19/10 08:46 PM
I said not leviticus because people tend to pick out that verse as proof, however they ignore the parts that say we cant eat shellfish and guys cant shave their beards. its all in the same section, but no one calls shaving an abomination, so why is homosexuality?

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Wed 05/19/10 08:59 PM

I said not leviticus because people tend to pick out that verse as proof, however they ignore the parts that say we cant eat shellfish and guys cant shave their beards. its all in the same section, but no one calls shaving an abomination, so why is homosexuality?


mind giving me some verses stating the shellfish and shaving in the new testiment? I know the shellfish is in the old testiment, but haven't found it in the new testiment.

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Wed 05/19/10 09:04 PM
they're not found in the new testament, and neither is homosexuality

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