Funny that WE're the ones who continually have to prove who WE are and that we're legal residents and citizens by showing at least ONE ID that's STATE-issued ... but if you're illegal, well ...

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I must show ID when:

01. Pulled over by the police.

02. Making purchases on my department store credit card.

03. When I show up for a doctor's appointment.

04. When filling out a credit card or loan application.

05. When applying for / renewing a driver's license or passport.


06. When applying for any kind of insurance.

07. When filling out college applications.

08. When donating blood.



09. When obtaining certain prescription drugs.



10. When writing a check, especially if out-of-state.



11. When collecting a boarding pass for airline or train travel.

There are other instances but the point is that we, as citizens, are required 
to prove who we are nearly every day. 

Why should people illegally in this country be exempt? For that matter,
 perhaps the Libs and 'Progressives' here can explain why we shouldn't
 guard our borders as closely as every other country in the world does? We'll wait for the answer ... but we won't be expecting one.

02. Making purchases on my department store credit card.

I don't and I wish that they would. People steal credit cards.

03. When I show up for a doctor's appointment.

I've never been asked for an ID when I see my doctors.

09. When obtaining certain prescription drugs.



I'm only asked my address. That way I won't get the wrong prescription.

they are SUPPOSED to ask for ID with a credit card purchase,,,doesnt mean the people they hire adhere to those requirements though

Try this out.
Get a hispanic friend to go to Bank of America to apply for a loan or open an account. Have him talk only in spanish. When they ask for an SSN, have him tell them he doesn't have one.

You will be very shocked to know the results.

Wells Fargo, the same thing.

I don't see how any individual is exempt from showing a form of identification when requested by policy or law.

Google 'matricula consular' ... here's just one link y' might find ... it's a FAKE ID for illegals ...

http://www.cis.org/MatriculaConsular-IDCards

That card has been handed out by the Mex. Gov. for at least the last 4 years, that I'm aware of.

Not true.

You will find that they cannot get accounts.

They aren't.

Snopes and a few others have info if you'd care to goo-goo; Bank of America extends credit and accounts to illegals.

Been going on fer years.

Bank of America to offer bank accounts, credit cards to illegal immigrants

Submitted by WWAY on

Thu, 02/15/2007

LOS ANGELES -- There's increasing outrage over Bank of America's plan to offer bank accounts and credit cards to illegal immigrants.

Many in Congress see it as a dangerous precedent that could open the country up to money laundering and drug money being sent through American banks.

Los Angeles County is one of the largest concentrations of illegal aliens in the country.

Bank of America is "reaching out to the community" to help people open bank accounts and then qualify for a credit card.

Bank of America is tapping a resource of people in our country, knowing that they deal only in a cash economy, is going after that money, and making a profit off of it -- making a profit off of illegal entry into the United States.

For identification Bank of America accepts the Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, a taxpayer ID number that illegal aliens commonly use instead of social security numbers.

Officials at the office of the comptroller of the currency confirmed today anyone with an ITIN, along with name address and date of birth, is allowed to open a bank account.

The bank then has to verify the information with another government-issued photo ID document. But that document can be issued by any government. So illegal immigrants often use matricula consular issued by the Mexican government, easily forged or available on the black market.

No passport is required. No visa is required. And once a bank account is opened, ID doesn't have to be rechecked for a credit card.

Sen. Richard Shelby, the ranking member of the Senate Banking Committee, released a statement saying he wants to ensure that the financial services industry is not offering products or services that facilitate encourage or even reward illegal immigration.

Fifty-one branches of Bank of America in Los Angeles County are launching the promotion.

Bank of America says they are simply going after an existing customer base in the Los Angeles area.

If they are using Tax ID number used in place of the SS, the illegal is documented here.

Making them more likely to be legal immigrants.

You don't get a tax id from anyone but the government. So how illegal are you if you are given a tax id?

HEre is what the IRS site says about ITIN's

Are ITINs valid for identification?
No. ITINs are not valid identification outside the tax system. Since ITINs are strictly for tax processing, IRS does not apply the same standards as agencies that provide genuine identity certification.
ITIN applicants are not required to apply in person, and IRS does not further validate the authenticity of identity documents. ITINs do not prove identity outside the Federal tax system, and should not be offered or accepted as identification for non-tax purposes.

,,so, it doesnt really validate whether someone is here legally or not,,, it just sets up a way for them(or whoever uses that number) to pay taxes,,,,

Please keep it on topic and not personal.

Thanks.

*edit, this means the personal attacks, which i removed, not the post above me.

So you are saying that they pay taxes but they are illegally here? How does that work?

That sure sucks for them since they are accused of the opposite all the time.

And they cannot get the benefits of paying taxes with government help at all so that really sucks for them.

IT works because even those who break some laws have a conscience about others. Many illegal immigrants who are hired by these exploitive companies,, obtain that ITIN and they pay the taxes for the income reported with that number. They dont have to, but the whole purpose of the ITIN is so that those not qualified for a SS number can still earn income,, and pay taxes.