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Topic: Enter, Real Populists
Redykeulous's photo
Wed 06/23/10 09:22 PM

Right ...

"Don't tax you; don't tax me ... tax that feller behind the tree."

What do you think Huey practiced as Governor ... ? Populist demagoguery is what got him elected.

He played to the 'Sheeple Gallery' - just like today's 'populists' do ...

"Vox Populi" - the "Voice of the Sheeple" ...



Do you have some vision you would like to share or are you just a complainer? Have you any solutions beyond the opinion of what you hate? What happens (in your opinion) when what you hate is no longer there?

Dragoness's photo
Wed 06/23/10 09:26 PM


Redy, I do not believe that the corporations are evil per se but I do believe that they should be limited in government. Their interests can make the common man a minority influence in the government.




The point is that wealth has ALWAYS had the greatest influence over power of any kind.

Unlike the private wealth of the past, portions of corpoarte wealth are redistributed in numerous beneficial ways throughout society.

I absolutely agree with you that corporate interests are better served because of that wealth, and often over the interests of us common folk.

But then we have to consider the places from which the interests are coming:

- The common folk, the majority of whom have limited education, and almost no knowledge of cultures beyond our borders, nor trade, nor how we fit into the world economy.

- The wealthy, more educated, and mostly international corporate elites, who understand laws, markets, trade, and economy and with that knowledge and their expereince they are more in tune with what is good for government, for growth and trade and the welfare of the general public.

So yes they have greater influence BUT as the OP suggests, grassroots movements are finding new pathways of influence, organizing - for example consider the many human rights non-profit organizations or the huge and very influential environmental non-profits - all corporate entities and international.

So perhaps non-profits will be the ticket to balance the exchange of influence - after all, including the charitable organizations, the economy of the non-profits of this country is so large that if it were a country it be ranked the 7th largest economy in the world.

So while we cannot easly relieve ourselves of Capitalist Corporate influence - we can find ways to compensate but it takes commitment of both effort (volunteerism) and money (donations). Are we yet a country willing to extend ourselves for the sake of public good above some portion of our own?






I believe that soon more in this country will see.

Corporations who have to receive help from the government, who are too big to let fail, that is a sobering thought.

I believe this will make changes.

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 06/23/10 10:24 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Wed 06/23/10 10:25 PM




I believe that soon more in this country will see.

Corporations who have to receive help from the government, who are too big to let fail, that is a sobering thought.

I believe this will make changes.


Yes, a sobering thought, and even more sobering would be the idea of offending the fortune 500 corporations who employ approximatly one of every 6 working Americans - example, Walmart 1.9 million and McDonalds, 400,000.

This is why the government took the action it did. Even the lesser companies - the fortune 250 and fortune 100's folding would put enough people out of work to affect consumerism to point that the fortune 500s would eventually have to resort to layoffs.

The fact that major corporations employ so many people is a result of our consumerism and our demands for cheap products is the reason we cannot afford (or refuse to purchase) American made products. So Americans have to work somewhere, so they work for the providers of our cheap and convenient cosumer goods and services.

We are an economy dependent on conusmerism - that was the purpose of all the stimulus incentives as well - to keep the dollars flowing.

Yet most Americans have little savings set aside and even less since so many took heavy hits on thier retirement investments.

While it would seem to be logical for the government to invest in the small business owners and diversify the work force they still could not provide goods as inexpensively as larger corporations. Nor would their payroll and benefits be comperable to larger corps.

That's our dilemma.

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