Topic: is this nessesary?
mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:13 PM
New legislation proposed on April 1st will give a whole new meaning to geeks who like to joke that the President has his finger on the button. If the proposed legislation comes to pass, the president will have the ability to shut down public and private networks, including internet traffic should the need arise. This power is part of a new cybersecurity emergency plan that is designed to help protect the US against attack, but also gives the government unprecedented control over our networks.

The critics of this bill however are lining up, and are voicing their concerns over how this power could be abused. According to Leslie Harris of the Center for Democracy and Technology, “This is pretty sweeping legislation. Seems the President could turn off the Internet completely or tell someone like Verizon to limit or block certain traffic. There is a lot to worry about in this bill.”

Since the bill is still in its early stages, it is unclear what amendments will be made, or if it will even be passed at all. West Virginia Democratic Senitor John Rockefeller made it clear to the media that this is the first draft of the proposal, and that they will be in close contact with internet-centric companies who obviously have a lot more at stake here than the average user.

Obama may soon have the power to nuke the real world, and World of Warcraft. Are you comfortable with this?

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:15 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 07/10/10 01:16 PM

New legislation proposed on April 1st will give a whole new meaning to geeks who like to joke that the President has his finger on the button. If the proposed legislation comes to pass, the president will have the ability to shut down public and private networks, including internet traffic should the need arise. This power is part of a new cybersecurity emergency plan that is designed to help protect the US against attack, but also gives the government unprecedented control over our networks.

The critics of this bill however are lining up, and are voicing their concerns over how this power could be abused. According to Leslie Harris of the Center for Democracy and Technology, “This is pretty sweeping legislation. Seems the President could turn off the Internet completely or tell someone like Verizon to limit or block certain traffic. There is a lot to worry about in this bill.”

Since the bill is still in its early stages, it is unclear what amendments will be made, or if it will even be passed at all. West Virginia Democratic Senitor John Rockefeller made it clear to the media that this is the first draft of the proposal, and that they will be in close contact with internet-centric companies who obviously have a lot more at stake here than the average user.

Obama may soon have the power to nuke the real world, and World of Warcraft. Are you comfortable with this?


Truly, the power given to EVERY president to NUKE The real world is about as bad as it gets. I really dont care if they shut down the internet or the television,,,man survived thousands of years without either. It is a luxury,, unlike life, and Im sure it will be a 'power' with just as many checks and balances as the power to 'push the button'.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:19 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Sat 07/10/10 01:20 PM


New legislation proposed on April 1st will give a whole new meaning to geeks who like to joke that the President has his finger on the button. If the proposed legislation comes to pass, the president will have the ability to shut down public and private networks, including internet traffic should the need arise. This power is part of a new cybersecurity emergency plan that is designed to help protect the US against attack, but also gives the government unprecedented control over our networks.

The critics of this bill however are lining up, and are voicing their concerns over how this power could be abused. According to Leslie Harris of the Center for Democracy and Technology, “This is pretty sweeping legislation. Seems the President could turn off the Internet completely or tell someone like Verizon to limit or block certain traffic. There is a lot to worry about in this bill.”

Since the bill is still in its early stages, it is unclear what amendments will be made, or if it will even be passed at all. West Virginia Democratic Senitor John Rockefeller made it clear to the media that this is the first draft of the proposal, and that they will be in close contact with internet-centric companies who obviously have a lot more at stake here than the average user.

Obama may soon have the power to nuke the real world, and World of Warcraft. Are you comfortable with this?


Truly, the power given to EVERY president to NUKE The real world is about as bad as it gets. I really dont care if they shut down the internet or the television,,,man survived thousands of years without either. It is a luxury,, unlike life, and Im sure it will be a 'power' with just as many checks and balances as the power to 'push the button'.


i'm just not sure why he wants to... hackers? what the secuirty risk that it would need to be shut down? does he know something we don't?

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:22 PM
It's all about CONTROL.

It's not that he would " need " to...it's simply the fact that he CAN if he chose to.


Ruth34611's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:22 PM
What a great idea! If I wanted to take an entire country hostage I can't think of a better tool than being able to shut down their means of communication with each other. That way, when they start detaining and arresting people in one state, the other states can't be alerted to start preparing to defend themselves. Sounds like a freaking genius plan to me!

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:24 PM



New legislation proposed on April 1st will give a whole new meaning to geeks who like to joke that the President has his finger on the button. If the proposed legislation comes to pass, the president will have the ability to shut down public and private networks, including internet traffic should the need arise. This power is part of a new cybersecurity emergency plan that is designed to help protect the US against attack, but also gives the government unprecedented control over our networks.

The critics of this bill however are lining up, and are voicing their concerns over how this power could be abused. According to Leslie Harris of the Center for Democracy and Technology, “This is pretty sweeping legislation. Seems the President could turn off the Internet completely or tell someone like Verizon to limit or block certain traffic. There is a lot to worry about in this bill.”

Since the bill is still in its early stages, it is unclear what amendments will be made, or if it will even be passed at all. West Virginia Democratic Senitor John Rockefeller made it clear to the media that this is the first draft of the proposal, and that they will be in close contact with internet-centric companies who obviously have a lot more at stake here than the average user.

Obama may soon have the power to nuke the real world, and World of Warcraft. Are you comfortable with this?


Truly, the power given to EVERY president to NUKE The real world is about as bad as it gets. I really dont care if they shut down the internet or the television,,,man survived thousands of years without either. It is a luxury,, unlike life, and Im sure it will be a 'power' with just as many checks and balances as the power to 'push the button'.


i'm just not sure why he wants to... hackers? what the secuirty risk that it would need to be shut down? does he know something we don't?


I would imagine. I know techs can literally LINK into my computer and run it remotely.. I am sure this type of technology could be used against the US Military(who were the ones who really created the internet for their OWN use). I think some very vital processes and programs are set up electronically to be accessed by computer,,,,,,,,I remember the gridlock on the east coast years back,,, that was pretty scary,,,and a prime time for someone to be able to attack physically once we were shut down electronically

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:27 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Sat 07/10/10 01:28 PM

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:28 PM

What a great idea! If I wanted to take an entire country hostage I can't think of a better tool than being able to shut down their means of communication with each other. That way, when they start detaining and arresting people in one state, the other states can't be alerted to start preparing to defend themselves. Sounds like a freaking genius plan to me!


good point, yoda! --:wink:


offtopic this is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOPsfaQRcbk

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:29 PM

It's all about CONTROL.

It's not that he would " need " to...it's simply the fact that he CAN if he chose to.




He does need to. It's a necessary step in becoming a police state.

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:32 PM


What a great idea! If I wanted to take an entire country hostage I can't think of a better tool than being able to shut down their means of communication with each other. That way, when they start detaining and arresting people in one state, the other states can't be alerted to start preparing to defend themselves. Sounds like a freaking genius plan to me!


good point, yoda! --:wink:


offtopic this is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOPsfaQRcbk


Make fun of Yoda not. Suffer the consequences you will. :tongue:

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:33 PM



What a great idea! If I wanted to take an entire country hostage I can't think of a better tool than being able to shut down their means of communication with each other. That way, when they start detaining and arresting people in one state, the other states can't be alerted to start preparing to defend themselves. Sounds like a freaking genius plan to me!


good point, yoda! --:wink:


offtopic this is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOPsfaQRcbk


Make fun of Yoda not. Suffer the consequences you will. :tongue:

flowers biggrin

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:37 PM

New legislation proposed on April 1st will give a whole new meaning to geeks who like to joke that the President has his finger on the button. If the proposed legislation comes to pass, the president will have the ability to shut down public and private networks, including internet traffic should the need arise. This power is part of a new cybersecurity emergency plan that is designed to help protect the US against attack, but also gives the government unprecedented control over our networks.

The critics of this bill however are lining up, and are voicing their concerns over how this power could be abused. According to Leslie Harris of the Center for Democracy and Technology, “This is pretty sweeping legislation. Seems the President could turn off the Internet completely or tell someone like Verizon to limit or block certain traffic. There is a lot to worry about in this bill.”

Since the bill is still in its early stages, it is unclear what amendments will be made, or if it will even be passed at all. West Virginia Democratic Senitor John Rockefeller made it clear to the media that this is the first draft of the proposal, and that they will be in close contact with internet-centric companies who obviously have a lot more at stake here than the average user.

Obama may soon have the power to nuke the real world, and World of Warcraft. Are you comfortable with this?


I would be interested in hearing what scenerios this would be necessary. Not the fearmongering ones though, thanks.

I will have to do some research on this.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/10/10 01:49 PM


New legislation proposed on April 1st will give a whole new meaning to geeks who like to joke that the President has his finger on the button. If the proposed legislation comes to pass, the president will have the ability to shut down public and private networks, including internet traffic should the need arise. This power is part of a new cybersecurity emergency plan that is designed to help protect the US against attack, but also gives the government unprecedented control over our networks.

The critics of this bill however are lining up, and are voicing their concerns over how this power could be abused. According to Leslie Harris of the Center for Democracy and Technology, “This is pretty sweeping legislation. Seems the President could turn off the Internet completely or tell someone like Verizon to limit or block certain traffic. There is a lot to worry about in this bill.”

Since the bill is still in its early stages, it is unclear what amendments will be made, or if it will even be passed at all. West Virginia Democratic Senitor John Rockefeller made it clear to the media that this is the first draft of the proposal, and that they will be in close contact with internet-centric companies who obviously have a lot more at stake here than the average user.

Obama may soon have the power to nuke the real world, and World of Warcraft. Are you comfortable with this?


I would be interested in hearing what scenerios this would be necessary. Not the fearmongering ones though, thanks.

I will have to do some research on this.


yoda and ms made some good points, something i didn't think of either, but it kinda seems like they are worried about something in paticular, or ruth(yoda) has hit the nail on the head.

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 07/10/10 02:00 PM
Pay no attention to the woman behind the curtain. She's a crazy conspiracy theorist who believes that both the democrats and the republicans are controlled by the same people and we will all be giving up what's left of our rights very soon.

And, just for the record....she prefers eccentric to crazy. shades