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Topic: Arizona OKs Illegal-Worker Restrictions
HillFolk's photo
Tue 07/03/07 07:09 AM
You really make a lot of sense, TLW. If you make as many as you can legal instead of illegal that are here and they contribute in the same way that legal law abiding citizens do then close the door or secure the perimeter then the problem at hand would be made into a nonproblem more than a problem.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 07/03/07 10:59 AM
Hillfolk, The illegals dont protest for fear of being deported. They accept wages no American can live on, and I susoect you make twice what they do.
Your attitude screws American workers that strive for a better life, and if you look around and open your eyes you will see you are in a minority.
The American workers these illegals replace are not paid enough money to buy health insurance, and many times cant even own the house they live in. You justify this while Americans die in Iraq fighting to retain the lifestyle you allow these people to steal.(Illegally, Poor foolish boys!)
Let them come here the legal way, many do, our immigration levels are the highest in the world, (17%, Legally) Ive been to Mexico, many times, and these people's life is not as bad as people portray. If they want to make it better, let them do it there like we do here! Bleeding Hearts are dangerous!
Why dont you take a pay cut, then move with your family into a two bedroom trailer with two other families. I bet you'd be happy to get out everyday as well. You could send your money to Mexico, where its worth 5 times as much, and buy a big peice of property where you could live like a rich man.
Oops, no you couldnt, an American cannot own property in Mexico. Even when hes there legally.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 07/03/07 05:38 PM
fanta u may have been in mexico, but u've not seen the whole thing for what i read in ur post.
u r making a partial judgment.
i've never been in mexico, but i relate it to my country because u know what from mexico to argentina everything is somehow the same.
u r defending ur country and ur rights and i applaud u for that, but u should get a bigger picture first and then make a judgment.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 07/03/07 06:08 PM
I didn't say there were not poor folk in Mexico. I accept that there are, and I have seen some of it in Juarez, but we have poor here too.
I know people, right here where I live, who have no indoor plumbing. People with children that all sleep in one room in the winter, because they heat with a fireplace. Their children often go hungry and live off sustenance farming, and canning every year. All Americans are not well to do either, but these people are generally very proud and very American. They do not think of moving to another country.
Our whole country is not that way though, and neither is Mexico!

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 07/03/07 06:22 PM
agreed

HillFolk's photo
Wed 07/04/07 07:17 AM
'Hillfolk, The illegals dont protest for fear of being deported. They accept wages no American can live on, and I suspect you make twice what they do.'

True. I found that to be true in 1974 when I was working for my uncle in the Grand Hotel as a night clerk during my summer vacation in El Paso, Texas.

'Your attitude screws American workers that strive for a better life, and if you look around and open your eyes you will see you are in a minority.'

True. Except when immigration was called at the plant where I worked which then many openings became available.

'The American workers these illegals replace are not paid enough money to buy health insurance, and many times cant even own the house they live in. You justify this while Americans die in Iraq fighting to retain the lifestyle you allow these people to steal.(Illegally, Poor foolish boys!)'

Can't argue with that.

'Let them come here the legal way, many do, our immigration levels are the highest in the world, (17%, Legally) Ive been to Mexico, many times, and these people's life is not as bad as people portray. If they want to make it better, let them do it there like we do here! Bleeding Hearts are dangerous!'

That may be true now but when I was there which hasn't been since 1974 in Juarez and Ciudad Kunia (sp) where my uncle was a disc jockey it sure looked pretty bad.

'Why dont you take a pay cut, then move with your family into a two bedroom trailer with two other families. I bet you'd be happy to get out everyday as well. You could send your money to Mexico, where its worth 5 times as much, and buy a big peice of property where you could live like a rich man.'

People at the plant I worked did that until the plant open 4 plants in Old Mexico which consisted of illegal immigrants.

'Oops, no you couldnt, an American cannot own property in Mexico. Even when hes there legally.'

This part I disagree with on a technical point. My uncle did own land in Juarez but he was a citizen of Old Mexico and the United States. He did live rich there and had people from Old Mexico build the adobe house which became his.



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