Topic: Cain Now a Frontrunner!
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Wed 09/28/11 06:52 PM
Three September debates have shaken-up the race for the Republican presidential nomination. Herman Cain has jumped into the top tier. Rick Perry’s stumbled. Mitt Romney's holding steady.

And Michele Bachmann is hitting bottom. That’s according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday.

The new poll found Cain’s support has nearly tripled among GOP primary voters to 17 percent.

That’s up from 6 percent before this month’s debates, and puts him in what is essentially a three-way tie with Perry and Romney.


Cain has benefited not only from his debate performances, but also significant media attention after winning the Florida Republican Party’s straw poll on Saturday.

Perry now garners 19 percent, a drop of 10 percentage points from a month ago. That puts Romney back in the top spot with the support of 23 percent. Last month Romney was at 22 percent.

Newt Gingrich recovered some ground and now stands at 11 percent. Ron Paul receives the backing of 6 percent now compared to 8 percent before the September debates.

Bachmann registers 3 percent support, down from 8 percent in late August and a high of 15 percent in July.

The nomination preference question included only the names of announced candidates.

The order is similar when GOP primary voters were asked which candidate they have the most in common with: Perry tops that list at 17 percent, followed by Cain at 14 percent, Romney at 12 percent, Bachmann at 10 percent, Gingrich at 7 percent and Paul at 6 percent.

Republicans are much happier with the GOP field these days. The number saying they are at least somewhat impressed with their slate of candidates has increased 19 points -- from 44 percent in April to 63 percent now.

After much speculation, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said again Tuesday he would not run for president this year. The poll found that by a 7-point margin Republicans thought Christie should run and by a 4-point margin Tea Party folks liked the idea.

What about the other side of the 2012 ballot? By a 66-27 percent margin, Democratic primary voters prefer Obama as their nominee over his former rival, Sec. of State Hillary Clinton. And another 3 percent volunteer they would like someone else altogether.

Hypothetical, Early Matchups

Obama continues to hold a slim edge over Romney and Perry in hypothetical matchups among all voters, but not among those highly interested in this election. That’s driven by relatively higher levels of interest among Republicans as their party picks a candidate and holds debates.

Among all registered voters Obama tops Romney by 3 points, which is within the poll’s margin of sampling error. In July, Obama had a 6-point edge and a year ago it was 1-point. The strength of party support is similar for each, as 85 percent of Democrats back Obama and 83 percent of Republicans support Romney.

Romney tops Obama among independents by a slim 2 points.

In a head-to-head matchup with Perry, Obama bests him by 8 points among all voters, and by 6 points among independents.

Overall, more voters doubt that Obama will be re-elected president than think he will be (by 50-to-40 percent). In May, 57 percent thought Obama would be re-elected. That was soon after the killing of Usama bin Laden. By a better than 2-to-1 margin Democrats think Obama will be re-elected.

While a 56-percent majority sees Obama’s strategy for re-election as bringing people together “with a hopeful message,” a third of voters (32 percent) think his strategy is to drive people apart “with a partisan message.”

Don’t Bother Lunching with Trump

Since Donald Trump toyed with running for president earlier this year, several Republican candidates have made a point of meeting with him. Even so, hardly any voters -- 6 percent -- say they would be more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Trump. In fact, by a 5-to-1 margin a Trump endorsement is more likely to have a negative impact.

Almost twice as many Republicans say a Trump endorsement would make them less likely to vote for a candidate than say it would encourage their support.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/fox-news-poll-gop-race-top-tier-now-romney-perry-and-cain/#ixzz1ZInk4ONw

I think he's a great candidate except for the lack of military experience. He does trump whawe have now though.

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Wed 09/28/11 06:55 PM
All though he did work for the Department of the Navy for a few years which is more experience then Obama there too.

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Wed 09/28/11 07:16 PM
Three September debates have shaken-up the race for the Republican presidential nomination. Herman Cain has jumped into the top tier. Rick Perry’s stumbled. Mitt Romney's holding steady.


Read more: http://www.FOXNEWS.com/politics/2011/09/28/fox-news-poll-gop-race-top-tier-now-romney-perry-and-cain/#ixzz1ZInk4ONw

laugh laugh laugh Sarah Palin thinks his name is Herb Cain. She's "awesome", too, isn't she?


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Wed 09/28/11 07:17 PM

Three September debates have shaken-up the race for the Republican presidential nomination. Herman Cain has jumped into the top tier. Rick Perry’s stumbled. Mitt Romney's holding steady.


Read more: http://www.FOXNEWS.com/politics/2011/09/28/fox-news-poll-gop-race-top-tier-now-romney-perry-and-cain/#ixzz1ZInk4ONw

laugh laugh laugh Sarah Palin thinks his name is Herb Cain. She's "awesome", too, isn't she?




What does that have to do with anything? whoa

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Wed 09/28/11 07:19 PM



I was a big supporter of Herb, then he said he would eliminate the EPA and that was enough for me...Ron Paul all the way. If he aint on the presidential ballot come November I'm writing in Ted Nugent!

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Wed 09/28/11 07:19 PM




I was a big supporter of Herb, then he said he would eliminate the EPA and that was enough for me...Ron Paul all the way. If he aint on the presidential ballot come November I'm writing in Ted Nugent!


Then you basically just voted for Obama.

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Wed 09/28/11 07:22 PM





I was a big supporter of Herb, then he said he would eliminate the EPA and that was enough for me...Ron Paul all the way. If he aint on the presidential ballot come November I'm writing in Ted Nugent!


Then you basically just voted for Obama.


Better Obama then the ******** who hijackled the Tea Party.

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Wed 09/28/11 07:24 PM


If Obama remains in office and republicans keep control of the house and gain one or two more in the senate that will be the best thing for the country and its wallet because nothing will get done and they won't be able to spend any money.

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Wed 09/28/11 07:40 PM



If Obama remains in office and republicans keep control of the house and gain one or two more in the senate that will be the best thing for the country and its wallet because nothing will get done and they won't be able to spend any money.


No, the best thing for the country is getting Obama out of office and if for some act of god on his part that it doesn't happen then I hope Republicans get veto majority and the majority to override a Presidential veto in the Congress and the Senate.

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Wed 09/28/11 07:42 PM






I was a big supporter of Herb, then he said he would eliminate the EPA and that was enough for me...Ron Paul all the way. If he aint on the presidential ballot come November I'm writing in Ted Nugent!


Then you basically just voted for Obama.


Better Obama then the ******** who hijackled the Tea Party.


And who is that? Tea Partiers don't like Ron Paul and it's a myth that he is a founding father of the movement. I am active with people who started the movement here in Northern Nevada and they HATE the guy.

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Wed 09/28/11 07:53 PM







I was a big supporter of Herb, then he said he would eliminate the EPA and that was enough for me...Ron Paul all the way. If he aint on the presidential ballot come November I'm writing in Ted Nugent!


Then you basically just voted for Obama.


Better Obama then the ******** who hijackled the Tea Party.


And who is that? Tea Partiers don't like Ron Paul and it's a myth that he is a founding father of the movement. I am active with people who started the movement here in Northern Nevada and they HATE the guy.


Idiots like Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney and the list goes on. These people are republicans and they need to stay with their party.

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Wed 09/28/11 07:54 PM
If he's nominated I will vote for him in a heartbeat cause he answers question and tell what he would do.
Three September debates have shaken-up the race for the Republican presidential nomination. Herman Cain has jumped into the top tier. Rick Perry’s stumbled. Mitt Romney's holding steady.

And Michele Bachmann is hitting bottom. That’s according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday.

The new poll found Cain’s support has nearly tripled among GOP primary voters to 17 percent.

That’s up from 6 percent before this month’s debates, and puts him in what is essentially a three-way tie with Perry and Romney.


Cain has benefited not only from his debate performances, but also significant media attention after winning the Florida Republican Party’s straw poll on Saturday.

Perry now garners 19 percent, a drop of 10 percentage points from a month ago. That puts Romney back in the top spot with the support of 23 percent. Last month Romney was at 22 percent.

Newt Gingrich recovered some ground and now stands at 11 percent. Ron Paul receives the backing of 6 percent now compared to 8 percent before the September debates.

Bachmann registers 3 percent support, down from 8 percent in late August and a high of 15 percent in July.

The nomination preference question included only the names of announced candidates.

The order is similar when GOP primary voters were asked which candidate they have the most in common with: Perry tops that list at 17 percent, followed by Cain at 14 percent, Romney at 12 percent, Bachmann at 10 percent, Gingrich at 7 percent and Paul at 6 percent.

Republicans are much happier with the GOP field these days. The number saying they are at least somewhat impressed with their slate of candidates has increased 19 points -- from 44 percent in April to 63 percent now.

After much speculation, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said again Tuesday he would not run for president this year. The poll found that by a 7-point margin Republicans thought Christie should run and by a 4-point margin Tea Party folks liked the idea.

What about the other side of the 2012 ballot? By a 66-27 percent margin, Democratic primary voters prefer Obama as their nominee over his former rival, Sec. of State Hillary Clinton. And another 3 percent volunteer they would like someone else altogether.

Hypothetical, Early Matchups

Obama continues to hold a slim edge over Romney and Perry in hypothetical matchups among all voters, but not among those highly interested in this election. That’s driven by relatively higher levels of interest among Republicans as their party picks a candidate and holds debates.

Among all registered voters Obama tops Romney by 3 points, which is within the poll’s margin of sampling error. In July, Obama had a 6-point edge and a year ago it was 1-point. The strength of party support is similar for each, as 85 percent of Democrats back Obama and 83 percent of Republicans support Romney.

Romney tops Obama among independents by a slim 2 points.

In a head-to-head matchup with Perry, Obama bests him by 8 points among all voters, and by 6 points among independents.

Overall, more voters doubt that Obama will be re-elected president than think he will be (by 50-to-40 percent). In May, 57 percent thought Obama would be re-elected. That was soon after the killing of Usama bin Laden. By a better than 2-to-1 margin Democrats think Obama will be re-elected.

While a 56-percent majority sees Obama’s strategy for re-election as bringing people together “with a hopeful message,” a third of voters (32 percent) think his strategy is to drive people apart “with a partisan message.”

Don’t Bother Lunching with Trump

Since Donald Trump toyed with running for president earlier this year, several Republican candidates have made a point of meeting with him. Even so, hardly any voters -- 6 percent -- say they would be more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Trump. In fact, by a 5-to-1 margin a Trump endorsement is more likely to have a negative impact.

Almost twice as many Republicans say a Trump endorsement would make them less likely to vote for a candidate than say it would encourage their support.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/fox-news-poll-gop-race-top-tier-now-romney-perry-and-cain/#ixzz1ZInk4ONw

I think he's a great candidate except for the lack of military experience. He does trump whawe have now though.

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Wed 09/28/11 08:57 PM








I was a big supporter of Herb, then he said he would eliminate the EPA and that was enough for me...Ron Paul all the way. If he aint on the presidential ballot come November I'm writing in Ted Nugent!


Then you basically just voted for Obama.


Better Obama then the ******** who hijackled the Tea Party.


And who is that? Tea Partiers don't like Ron Paul and it's a myth that he is a founding father of the movement. I am active with people who started the movement here in Northern Nevada and they HATE the guy.


Idiots like Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney and the list goes on. These people are republicans and they need to stay with their party.


Last I checked Ron Paul is a Republican and well your boy Ted Nugent is one of the biggest Republicans there is.

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Wed 09/28/11 08:58 PM

If he's nominated I will vote for him in a heartbeat cause he answers question and tell what he would do.
Three September debates have shaken-up the race for the Republican presidential nomination. Herman Cain has jumped into the top tier. Rick Perry’s stumbled. Mitt Romney's holding steady.

And Michele Bachmann is hitting bottom. That’s according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday.

The new poll found Cain’s support has nearly tripled among GOP primary voters to 17 percent.

That’s up from 6 percent before this month’s debates, and puts him in what is essentially a three-way tie with Perry and Romney.


Cain has benefited not only from his debate performances, but also significant media attention after winning the Florida Republican Party’s straw poll on Saturday.

Perry now garners 19 percent, a drop of 10 percentage points from a month ago. That puts Romney back in the top spot with the support of 23 percent. Last month Romney was at 22 percent.

Newt Gingrich recovered some ground and now stands at 11 percent. Ron Paul receives the backing of 6 percent now compared to 8 percent before the September debates.

Bachmann registers 3 percent support, down from 8 percent in late August and a high of 15 percent in July.

The nomination preference question included only the names of announced candidates.

The order is similar when GOP primary voters were asked which candidate they have the most in common with: Perry tops that list at 17 percent, followed by Cain at 14 percent, Romney at 12 percent, Bachmann at 10 percent, Gingrich at 7 percent and Paul at 6 percent.

Republicans are much happier with the GOP field these days. The number saying they are at least somewhat impressed with their slate of candidates has increased 19 points -- from 44 percent in April to 63 percent now.

After much speculation, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said again Tuesday he would not run for president this year. The poll found that by a 7-point margin Republicans thought Christie should run and by a 4-point margin Tea Party folks liked the idea.

What about the other side of the 2012 ballot? By a 66-27 percent margin, Democratic primary voters prefer Obama as their nominee over his former rival, Sec. of State Hillary Clinton. And another 3 percent volunteer they would like someone else altogether.

Hypothetical, Early Matchups

Obama continues to hold a slim edge over Romney and Perry in hypothetical matchups among all voters, but not among those highly interested in this election. That’s driven by relatively higher levels of interest among Republicans as their party picks a candidate and holds debates.

Among all registered voters Obama tops Romney by 3 points, which is within the poll’s margin of sampling error. In July, Obama had a 6-point edge and a year ago it was 1-point. The strength of party support is similar for each, as 85 percent of Democrats back Obama and 83 percent of Republicans support Romney.

Romney tops Obama among independents by a slim 2 points.

In a head-to-head matchup with Perry, Obama bests him by 8 points among all voters, and by 6 points among independents.

Overall, more voters doubt that Obama will be re-elected president than think he will be (by 50-to-40 percent). In May, 57 percent thought Obama would be re-elected. That was soon after the killing of Usama bin Laden. By a better than 2-to-1 margin Democrats think Obama will be re-elected.

While a 56-percent majority sees Obama’s strategy for re-election as bringing people together “with a hopeful message,” a third of voters (32 percent) think his strategy is to drive people apart “with a partisan message.”

Don’t Bother Lunching with Trump

Since Donald Trump toyed with running for president earlier this year, several Republican candidates have made a point of meeting with him. Even so, hardly any voters -- 6 percent -- say they would be more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Trump. In fact, by a 5-to-1 margin a Trump endorsement is more likely to have a negative impact.

Almost twice as many Republicans say a Trump endorsement would make them less likely to vote for a candidate than say it would encourage their support.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/fox-news-poll-gop-race-top-tier-now-romney-perry-and-cain/#ixzz1ZInk4ONw

I think he's a great candidate except for the lack of military experience. He does trump whawe have now though.



It's a come behind like McCain pulled in the primaries for 2008.

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Wed 09/28/11 09:02 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Wed 09/28/11 09:05 PM







I was a big supporter of Herb, then he said he would eliminate the EPA and that was enough for me...Ron Paul all the way. If he aint on the presidential ballot come November I'm writing in Ted Nugent!


Then you basically just voted for Obama.


Better Obama then the ******** who hijackled the Tea Party.


And who is that? Tea Partiers don't like Ron Paul and it's a myth that he is a founding father of the movement. I am active with people who started the movement here in Northern Nevada and they HATE the guy.

These so-called "tea partiers" (whom those of us who remember the original movement now call tea-o-cons) who hate RP ought to give up their "tea party" name-as the whole tea party movement was STARTED by RP supporters. :wink:

Some historical video for ya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJnGlp3VKu0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvGS12EoZUE

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Wed 09/28/11 09:42 PM
These straw polls are going to drive Republicans nuts.
And, while Cain’s victory in Florida was a nice moment for his campaign — and will absolutely help him raise money — it seems unlikely that the businessman will follow in the footsteps of the last four winners of the Sunshine State straw poll who went on to win the GOP nod.

The reasons given for the straw poll victories by these long-shot candidates run the gamut.

Straw polls in which only a few thousand people (at most) vote tend to reward candidates with the most loyal, not necessarily the largest, vote bases. The more attention a candidate lavishes on a straw poll, the more likely he or she is to win it. Only the most conservative portion of the Republican base shows up at these events, skewing the results to the most ideological candidate, not the most electable one.

If even the biggest straw polls — and there are lots and lots of smaller one, almost all of which have been won by Paul — are robbed of both their meaningfulness and predictive power, it’s easy to see why candidates in the future won’t spend the time and money to compete in them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-end-of-straw-polls/2011/09/25/gIQA7zTfyK_blog.html

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Wed 09/28/11 11:22 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 09/28/11 11:24 PM




I was a big supporter of Herb, then he said he would eliminate the EPA and that was enough for me...Ron Paul all the way. If he aint on the presidential ballot come November I'm writing in Ted Nugent!



Im pretty turned off by his attitude of what 'black' is ,and his blanket bigotry towards muslims, to be honest. I would wait to see how he measures up next to President OBama in how he addresses issues and how he carries himself.