No, the Kung Flu was developed in a Level Four Biolab right by Wuhan.

I have met Senator and Vice President Biden a few times. He was always a nice, polite gentleman. I like him as a person and he does care for people. I saw it in his eye and how he talked to people.

The problem is his policies will tank our country, but I do agree with you he's a good guy and in it for the right reasons.

He already tried. Right before this COVID mess he negotiated a withdrawal with Biden as long as Biden took care of his supporters. That never came to happen because COVID hit and everything got put on hold.

Game over. Mathematically he is done. The only thing he can do is block Biden from getting the Delegates needed for the first round ballot. Which would force a second round where the Supersaturates come in to play and that wont help either Sanders or Biden. It will go to a brokered convention and they are already talking about forcing a brokered convention and nominating Como because he has showed strong leadership these past two months.

I know there are a lot of mob enthusiasts on here. Wanted to create a thread on all thing Mafia related. Swap stories, theories and talk about some of the greatest Wiseguys in history.

I'll start. I think other then Lucky Luciano that Tony Accardo was probably the greatest Mob Boss in history. He worked for Capone and then ran the Chicago Outfit and represented them on the Commission until his death in 1992. He never even spent a day in jail. He was a calculating planner. He learned early on from Capone that publicity was bad for business and the moment he became boss he put a knucklehead nobody (Sam Gianciana) as street boss to take the heat. Hell, Giancana wasn't allowed to make a move without Accardo's say. He was behind JFK's win in Illinois and most certainly had a role in the Assassination since the Outfit was working with the CIA for several years on the Cuban and Communist mess. Even though the Commission headed by Carlo Gambino and Joe Bonnano, (the Commission is all 5 New York Families, The Outfit. Trafficante out of Florida and Marcillo out of Louisiana) all had to make a unanimous decision on something this major.

It's pretty fascinating when you really learn about the Commission and their strict rules, but I am getting off subject. Tony Accardo in my opinion was one of the Greatest Men of Honor in the history of the orginization.

My father is also a Veteran of the Coast Guard and was stationed at Coast Guard Island in the Bay Area in California.

I was thinking since a lot of us have talked for a long time, years in fact that we could do a meet up singles, couples and friends cruise for December to the Caribbean. We had six people in our group when we went this past December and eight the year before that. We have found that the more people in your group the more fun you have. Also you don't need a passport! It would be great to have our mingle friends get together!

The one for this coming December is going to be on Carnival's newest and largest ship. the Mardi Gras. It goes into service at the end of November, we will be it's third cruise, and there's nothing like sailing on a brand new ship! It's got six themed zones including the French Quarter themed after New Orleans! This ship has a roller coaster (the first ever on a cruise ship), Zipline, Ropes courses, Miniature Golf, several restaurants and bars, several pools and hot tubs (including one salt water pool), water park, Dive In Movies nightly, night clubs, shows and themed parties every night. If you have kids they have Camp Carnival from 7AM until 10PM and there is no charge, it is included. Also all of the meals are included.

It goes out of Orlando and goes to the Caribbean. Cozumel, Costa Maya and Mahogany Bay Roatan. There are a ton of shore excursions to choose from. We did the Dolphin swim in Cozumel. It was a blast. Your actually in the water swimming with and playing with Dolphins. Then after your done being pulled around the Lagoon and playing with the Dolphins, you get to go in and swim with Stingrays and the exotic fish in their second lagoon. The stingers are removed and they will swim right up to you and along the side of you. When your done with that you have full use of their infinity pool that overlooks the ocean and lunch and drinks are included. After that we had time to kill so we went parasailing and hit up Jimmy Buffet's MargaritaVille and Ron Jon's Surf Shop and the other cool little shops they have there.

In Mahogany Bay we did the Monkeys and Sloths excursion. It was pretty awesome. You get to go play with the Sloths and Monkeys. You also stop by an Iguana sanctuary that has over 3,000 Iguanas and a tour of the city. The Sloths are really amazing and friendly little animals This year I think were going to do the Ziplining and Cave Tubing excursion. Also there is a large beach where we dock and you can go parasailing, get towed behind a speed boat on a banana boat, take the chair lift and see the views or visit Fort Consolation which has the best food on the island and some really neat zip lines.

In Costa Maya were going to Maya, Lost Kingdom. It's a waterpark with an ancient Mayan theme with Slides going out of and through a replica of a Mayan temple. It has a ton of water slides, a jungle zipline roller coaster that goes over the jungle, zip lines, zip lines with water landings, bungee jumping, an artificial river and a lot more. It's rated as one of the top waterparks in the world and looks pretty exciting.

A few of us are going in a few days early and going to Disneyworld. We got a great package price for the cruise (my friend works as a booking agent for Carnival and we got a really good deal at Disneyworld).

Would anyone here be interested in something like this?

I don't buy for one minute that he killed himself. I don't believe it was a Clinton conspiracy. This was a hit and it smells like a Mob hit. They are the only ones that can get to a protected prisoner.

He's not, nor will he ever be in General population for two reasons. One his sex crimes and two his high profile status. He will be in protective custody the entire time hes in prison.

I don't think so. His personality type wouldn't attempt suicide. I think it was a Mob attempt. Only they can pull off getting to a protected prisoner. The Mafia has a strict code on people who mess with children. Also Epistein was friends with John Gotti, his brother and senior members of the Gambino's. No one, even the Government knows exactly how Epistein made his millions and he did handle investments for certain Mobsters.

Two things the Mafia will kill you over... Their money and if you snitch. Epistein messed up their money and now is in jail and will sell his soul to get out. That's a good way to get killed. Plus the jail hes in there are A LOT of made members and associates.

He's tied to politicians from both parties......

Oh, it's not due to Double Jeopardy exactly but they are saying this stands a good chance of not holding up.

In fact a Judge has been considering this for over a month now since the Feds have been trying to get the plea agreement scrapped.

Is anyone else following this mess? I don't think this will even make it to trial. The Government had the opportunity to put him away for like in 2007-2008 and they gave him a weak plea deal where he admitted the crimes, got sentenced and served his time. If they proceed with this it violates the Double Jeopardy clause..... A judge still has to rule on this if it's even possible for this to proceed.

Everyone seems to be caught up in the politics of it. Of this guy was a personal friend of Clinton, Trump etc. etc.

Unless he's found to have committed a new crime then this is all just a waste of time. Unless the Feds are after a bigger fish...….

Hell, Senator Kennedy killed a woman while intoxicated...….

Here in Nevada you can only buy them on Indian Reservations, and trust me they are the good kind ;)

Forget the Lesbian stuff, but isn't there laws about incest?

I posted that last night. You see to ignore the posts I make.

Ugh, women are difficult enough as it is just being with one. Imagine having a bunch. I know guys like it because of the sex and they want obedient women. To me I find it selfish and disgusting and most of all disrespectful to women.

Besides, just realize when you make one little mistake and your one wife goes ballistic on you, and well if you have multiple wives then your going to get that multiple times and trust me women stick together against me, always!

A couple problems with that. One, the deal was not on the up and up. Why do you think the US used foreign currency to pay Iran? Because we would have violated the law if we used our own.

Then it gave Iran free reign for a power grab and boy did the take advantage. Over 1/3 of our troops killed in Iraq are by Iranian trained forces.

Lastly it would have given Iran a nuclear weapon with in a couple years and Iran can not go nuclear.

Tensions will never go down with Iran and the US. There is too much history. There will have to eventually be a showdown and regime change until then every time they keep up their terrorist activities we need to start hitting strategic military targets. We need to disable their Navy and Revolutionary Guards first.