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Topic: Georgia "birther" convicted in plot to seize courthouse
Peccy's photo
Fri 10/28/11 05:07 PM

You didn't answer the question. :)
Ok you got me, his motivation behind the whole thing is because he was a birther! In fact people don't have jobs because their birthers! Texas lost game 6 because of birthers!

Why couldn't he just be supporting a buddy? Why is it because he was a birther? Remember it was both a birther and patriot group that they were members of. That's like saying because you and I both go to this board, we must both be democrats. That's laughable because I am a centerist.

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Fri 10/28/11 05:11 PM

I would be willing to bet that he is a self proclaimed "birther" and they did not feel they had to extrapolate on that fact in the article.
If you are referring to me, you'd lose that bet. I never gave a frig if he was from here (US) or from under a rock. As long as he practiced what he preached. Unfortunately no such luck, just a another Bush.

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Fri 10/28/11 05:13 PM
I'm gonna go curl up next to my fifth now, this is too heavy for Friday night!

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Fri 10/28/11 05:35 PM


I would be willing to bet that he is a self proclaimed "birther" and they did not feel they had to extrapolate on that fact in the article.
If you are referring to me, you'd lose that bet. I never gave a frig if he was from here (US) or from under a rock. As long as he practiced what he preached. Unfortunately no such luck, just a another Bush.


No, the man in the OP.


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Fri 10/28/11 10:46 PM


You didn't answer the question. :)
Ok you got me, his motivation behind the whole thing is because he was a birther! In fact people don't have jobs because their birthers! Texas lost game 6 because of birthers!

Why couldn't he just be supporting a buddy? Why is it because he was a birther? Remember it was both a birther and patriot group that they were members of. That's like saying because you and I both go to this board, we must both be democrats. That's laughable because I am a centerist.


Ah, I understand now. You want us to think the guy who got convicted was just trying to help out a buddy, rather than actually agreeing with why he was performing a citizens' arrest.

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Sat 10/29/11 11:27 AM



You didn't answer the question. :)
Ok you got me, his motivation behind the whole thing is because he was a birther! In fact people don't have jobs because their birthers! Texas lost game 6 because of birthers!

Why couldn't he just be supporting a buddy? Why is it because he was a birther? Remember it was both a birther and patriot group that they were members of. That's like saying because you and I both go to this board, we must both be democrats. That's laughable because I am a centerist.


Ah, I understand now. You want us to think the guy who got convicted was just trying to help out a buddy, rather than actually agreeing with why he was performing a citizens' arrest.
I don't want you to believe anything, you'll come to your own conclusions no matter what anyone tells you. My point was that him being a "birther" had almost nothing to do with the headline.

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Sat 10/29/11 11:33 AM
We'll just have to agree to disagree, especially because of the reason he was doing a citizens' arrest.

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Sat 10/29/11 11:49 AM
LOL......I have over 25 years in the media business,(most in some sort of daily). I think I know a "baited" headline when I see one! But think what you want.

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Sat 10/29/11 11:57 AM
If you want to ignore that some of the birthers are completely nuts like this guy, go for it.

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Sat 10/29/11 12:05 PM
That is generalizing a certain group, exactly what the writer of this article was hoping for! Bravo!!!

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Sat 10/29/11 01:27 PM
Notice I said some, not all. I don't think all people who believe the President was not born int he US would do what this guy did. However, as we can see, there are some who take things to the extremes.

You thinking that he did this just to help out a buddy doesn't make him any less nuts.

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Sat 10/29/11 01:33 PM

Gotta wonder about the mentality of these people.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/the_strange_case_of_the_ga_birther_oathkeeper_--_w.php

Jillian Rayfield October 18, 2011, 5:05 AM 9406 2

On Tuesday, Georgia OathKeeper Darren Huff will begin his trial for an alleged attempt to take over a Tennessee courthouse and conduct citizens arrests on local judges and officers.

Huff’s troubles began in April 2010, when Walter Francis Fitzpatrick was arrested in Madisonville, Tennessee for attempting to conduct a citizens’ arrest on Monroe County Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway. “I’m charging you with official misconduct,” Fitzpatrick told Pettway. “I’m placing you under arrest. You must now come with me.” Fitzpatrick was charged with inciting a riot, disrupting an official public meeting, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

Beforehand, Fitzpatrick, who is a leader of the birther and Patriot group American Grand Jury, had written up 24 citizens’ arrest warrants for officials at the federal, state and local levels, calling them “domestic enemies” and describing President Obama as an “illegal alien, infiltrator and impostor.” His grievance with Pettway, it seems, was that Pettway would not agree to convene a grand jury to investigate the AGC’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

Fitzpatrick’s allies called for supporters to storm the courthouse and conduct their own citizens’ arrests in retaliation for Fitzpatrick’s arrest, and Huff — carrying a Colt .45 and an AK-47 — responded to the request.

Huff, a former U.S. Naval officer from Georgia and a member of the OathKeepers, made his way to the courthouse on April 20, 2010, the day Fitzpatrick was supposed to stand trial.

As TPM wrote at the time:

Huff was already being monitored by the FBI, a local TV station has reported, and after reaching Tennessee he was quickly stopped by state troopers. They told reporters that Huff made clear that he was armed and that he planned to go to the courthouse and arrest county officials — who he called “domestic enemies of the United States engaged in treason”— in order to turn them over to state police to put in jail. The troopers eventually let Huff proceed to the courthouse, and no violence seems to have ensued that day — though Huff and his allies did not succeed in having county officials arrested.

Huff told the troopers that he was was not planning in resorting to violence unless provoked, but he was ready to die for his rights and what he believed in, according to court documents. He was arrested a few days after, and was eventually indicted knowingly “carrying a firearm in interstate commerce with the intent to use it in a civil disorder” and “using a firearm in relation to another felony,” according to the AP.

Huff’s trial begins Tuesday in District Court. If convicted of t
he first charge, he faces up to five years in prison. The second charge carries a two-year minimum sentence.

In July, Huff was granted a request to oust his publicly-appointed defenders, calling them “either incompetent or attempting to sell the defendant down the river.” He was given a replacement.


This is the sam mentality that the people who try to arrest Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield have and the same lunacy thinking charges will EVER be filed against them.

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Sat 10/29/11 01:41 PM


Gotta wonder about the mentality of these people.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/the_strange_case_of_the_ga_birther_oathkeeper_--_w.php

Jillian Rayfield October 18, 2011, 5:05 AM 9406 2

On Tuesday, Georgia OathKeeper Darren Huff will begin his trial for an alleged attempt to take over a Tennessee courthouse and conduct citizens arrests on local judges and officers.

Huff’s troubles began in April 2010, when Walter Francis Fitzpatrick was arrested in Madisonville, Tennessee for attempting to conduct a citizens’ arrest on Monroe County Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway. “I’m charging you with official misconduct,” Fitzpatrick told Pettway. “I’m placing you under arrest. You must now come with me.” Fitzpatrick was charged with inciting a riot, disrupting an official public meeting, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

Beforehand, Fitzpatrick, who is a leader of the birther and Patriot group American Grand Jury, had written up 24 citizens’ arrest warrants for officials at the federal, state and local levels, calling them “domestic enemies” and describing President Obama as an “illegal alien, infiltrator and impostor.” His grievance with Pettway, it seems, was that Pettway would not agree to convene a grand jury to investigate the AGC’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

Fitzpatrick’s allies called for supporters to storm the courthouse and conduct their own citizens’ arrests in retaliation for Fitzpatrick’s arrest, and Huff — carrying a Colt .45 and an AK-47 — responded to the request.

Huff, a former U.S. Naval officer from Georgia and a member of the OathKeepers, made his way to the courthouse on April 20, 2010, the day Fitzpatrick was supposed to stand trial.

As TPM wrote at the time:

Huff was already being monitored by the FBI, a local TV station has reported, and after reaching Tennessee he was quickly stopped by state troopers. They told reporters that Huff made clear that he was armed and that he planned to go to the courthouse and arrest county officials — who he called “domestic enemies of the United States engaged in treason”— in order to turn them over to state police to put in jail. The troopers eventually let Huff proceed to the courthouse, and no violence seems to have ensued that day — though Huff and his allies did not succeed in having county officials arrested.

Huff told the troopers that he was was not planning in resorting to violence unless provoked, but he was ready to die for his rights and what he believed in, according to court documents. He was arrested a few days after, and was eventually indicted knowingly “carrying a firearm in interstate commerce with the intent to use it in a civil disorder” and “using a firearm in relation to another felony,” according to the AP.

Huff’s trial begins Tuesday in District Court. If convicted of t
he first charge, he faces up to five years in prison. The second charge carries a two-year minimum sentence.

In July, Huff was granted a request to oust his publicly-appointed defenders, calling them “either incompetent or attempting to sell the defendant down the river.” He was given a replacement.


This is the sam mentality that the people who try to arrest Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield have and the same lunacy thinking charges will EVER be filed against them.


WE agree.

Not enough there for a concrete case for either argument.

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Sat 10/29/11 02:00 PM



Gotta wonder about the mentality of these people.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/the_strange_case_of_the_ga_birther_oathkeeper_--_w.php

Jillian Rayfield October 18, 2011, 5:05 AM 9406 2

On Tuesday, Georgia OathKeeper Darren Huff will begin his trial for an alleged attempt to take over a Tennessee courthouse and conduct citizens arrests on local judges and officers.

Huff’s troubles began in April 2010, when Walter Francis Fitzpatrick was arrested in Madisonville, Tennessee for attempting to conduct a citizens’ arrest on Monroe County Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway. “I’m charging you with official misconduct,” Fitzpatrick told Pettway. “I’m placing you under arrest. You must now come with me.” Fitzpatrick was charged with inciting a riot, disrupting an official public meeting, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

Beforehand, Fitzpatrick, who is a leader of the birther and Patriot group American Grand Jury, had written up 24 citizens’ arrest warrants for officials at the federal, state and local levels, calling them “domestic enemies” and describing President Obama as an “illegal alien, infiltrator and impostor.” His grievance with Pettway, it seems, was that Pettway would not agree to convene a grand jury to investigate the AGC’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

Fitzpatrick’s allies called for supporters to storm the courthouse and conduct their own citizens’ arrests in retaliation for Fitzpatrick’s arrest, and Huff — carrying a Colt .45 and an AK-47 — responded to the request.

Huff, a former U.S. Naval officer from Georgia and a member of the OathKeepers, made his way to the courthouse on April 20, 2010, the day Fitzpatrick was supposed to stand trial.

As TPM wrote at the time:

Huff was already being monitored by the FBI, a local TV station has reported, and after reaching Tennessee he was quickly stopped by state troopers. They told reporters that Huff made clear that he was armed and that he planned to go to the courthouse and arrest county officials — who he called “domestic enemies of the United States engaged in treason”— in order to turn them over to state police to put in jail. The troopers eventually let Huff proceed to the courthouse, and no violence seems to have ensued that day — though Huff and his allies did not succeed in having county officials arrested.

Huff told the troopers that he was was not planning in resorting to violence unless provoked, but he was ready to die for his rights and what he believed in, according to court documents. He was arrested a few days after, and was eventually indicted knowingly “carrying a firearm in interstate commerce with the intent to use it in a civil disorder” and “using a firearm in relation to another felony,” according to the AP.

Huff’s trial begins Tuesday in District Court. If convicted of t
he first charge, he faces up to five years in prison. The second charge carries a two-year minimum sentence.

In July, Huff was granted a request to oust his publicly-appointed defenders, calling them “either incompetent or attempting to sell the defendant down the river.” He was given a replacement.


This is the sam mentality that the people who try to arrest Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield have and the same lunacy thinking charges will EVER be filed against them.


WE agree.

Not enough there for a concrete case for either argument.


It just makes whoever is saying it look like a mental patient.

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Sat 10/29/11 03:48 PM
Lpdon, aren't you one of those guys who thinks the President isn't from the US?

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Sat 10/29/11 03:50 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 10/29/11 03:50 PM
tears tears tears


WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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