Topic: Change is coming!
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 04/07/12 05:05 AM

Judge Nap has known it for some time and warned people. Even Neil Cavuto of Faux Noise has started to see the light the last few months and change his tune towards the truth, his opinions of Ron Paul, and his warnings.

Many of the news pundants have started to break the bonds of their masters, and many are paying for it. The trend is beginning! It is becoming more and more obvious that even the paid political mouthpieces are becoming scared of our nations course with Owe-Bummer and those like him at the wheel!

Is nobody paying attention? The plane is falling from the sky with only one destination, one outcome, and nobody's screaming but a few in the front!

Wake up people!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgrjbFofM-s&feature=player_embedded

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 05:14 AM


Judge Nap has known it for some time and warned people. Even Neil Cavuto of Faux Noise has started to see the light the last few months and change his tune towards the truth, his opinions of Ron Paul, and his warnings.

Many of the news pundants have started to break the bonds of their masters, and many are paying for it. The trend is beginning! It is becoming more and more obvious that even the paid political mouthpieces are becoming scared of our nations course with Owe-Bummer and those like him at the wheel!

Is nobody paying attention? The plane is falling from the sky with only one destination, one outcome, and nobody's screaming but a few in the front!

Wake up people!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgrjbFofM-s&feature=player_embedded
haven't you all heard that one before,Change is coming?
Only about four years ago,and you're lucky you might have some Change left!
These days you need a whole load of Salt,when listening to Politicians!
A Grain of Salt is very insufficient!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 04/07/12 05:19 AM

Supreme Contempt

Submitted by Dr Robert Owens on Fri, 04/06/2012 - 10:45

Recently President Obama made this remarkable statement, “Ultimately, I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress.” For someone reputed to be a former professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago this statement is hard to explain. Any high school student in a sophomore American History class knows there are many precedents for the Supreme Court making laws passed by Congress null and void. As a matter of fact, in the system of government tradition has delivered to us overturning laws as unconstitutional has been an important power of the Supreme Court for more than two hundred years.

And if the primary content of the President’s statement isn’t strange enough the supporting information is wrong. Obamacare wasn't passed by a strong majority in Congress. In reality the final vote in the House vote was 220 to 215. Every Republican and thirty four Democrats voted against the law. In the Senate the vote was sixty Democrats and Independents voting for and thirty nine Republicans voting against. The Democrats, even though they controlled both houses of Congress knew they would lose enough of their own members that it was going to be a close vote so they moved the bill outside the regular order of business and used a legislative maneuver known as reconciliation to avoid giving the Republicans the opportunity to filibuster the law.

What is the context of these current pressure tactics being used by the executive branch on the judicial branch?

Soon after taking office in 1829, President Andrew Jackson a long time Indian fighter spearheaded one of his signature pieces of legislation through Congress: the Indian Removal Act. This act gave the president the power to negotiate treaties with the various tribes which still existed in America East of the Mississippi. These treaties, often accepted either under duress or under questionable circumstances seized the lands of the tribes and forced them to move West to the Indian Territory in what is today Oklahoma. The time for fighting had passed and most of the tribes quietly left their ancestral lands.

One tribe decided to try another route. The Cherokee Nation had adopted the ways of the Europeans. They devised their own written language and wrote their own Constitution. They had their own plantations, printing presses, and businesses. They also had their own lawyers and instead of going on the warpath as their ancestors had done they went to court to fight the orders from the State of Georgia which dispossessed them of their land.

In two cases; Cherokee Nation v. Georgia (1831) and Worcester v. Georgia (1832), the United States Supreme Court considered whether or not it had the power to enforce the rights of Native American nations in disputes between them and the states. In Cherokee Nation v. Georgia, the Court ruled that it lacked jurisdiction to review the claims of any Indian nation within the United States. In Worcester v. Georgia, the Court ruled that only the Federal Government not the states, had the power to regulate the Indian nations.

What the ruling in Worcester v. Georgia meant was that Georgia could not legally seize the Cherokee lands. It was at this junction when referring to the majority opinion written by Chief Justice John Marshall that President Andrew Jackson made one his most famous statements, “Mr. Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!” Instead of enforcing the ruling the Federal government joined in and the result was the Trail of Tears as the Cherokee lost their lands and moved west.

Franklin D. Roosevelt legislating Keynesian economic philosophy in the New Deal sought to end the Depression through government spending and central control. With massive majorities in both houses of Congress the president’s agenda was enacted as quickly as possible. Then less than three years after the New Deal began to transform America the Supreme Court began overturning some of the central portions of Roosevelt's program

In response to this resistance to his vision for what should be done FDR decided to pack the court with Justices who would support his laws. What he proposed was that for any justice over the age of seventy who refused to retire, the president could appoint a new justice to sit beside the current justice and do his work. If his plan had been adopted and none of the then current Justices retired he would have been able to appoint six new Justices. Since he couldn’t force the conservative justices to retire he sought in this way to outnumber them and thus change the ideological complexion of the court. As the president moved ahead in his attempt to pack the court the Supremes started ruling in his favor which eventually stopped the need for his effort to influence the court through overwhelming appointments. Then time and attrition did what he had tried to do with legislation. By 1941, four justices had retired and two had died consequently by the end of his presidency seven of the nine justices were Roosevelt appointees.

Now we come full circle to President Obama and his obvious attempt to belittle and intimidate the court. Should anyone be surprised? This is nothing more than standard operating procedure for a Chicago politician. It is also a normal technique for a community organizer who has been trained in the tactics of Saul Alinsky. No, we shouldn’t be surprised but we could have expected more of anyone who has been entrusted with the highest office in the land. It is just such crude strong-arm tactics such as this which open Mr. Obama up to charges of being a typical South Chicago thug. If he wishes to avoid such charges he needs to avoid such actions.

The above brief review clearly shows that this was not the first attempt of a president to influence the court. However coming from one who is constantly extolled as a constitutional scholar it is certainly disquieting. As a constitutional scholar the president would obviously know what he said was incorrect leaving no other interpretation to his words than a conscious effort to alter the traditional system of checks and balances and the power relationship between the separate branches of the federal government.

Dr. Owens teaches History, Political Science, and Religion for Southside Virginia Community College. He is the Historian of the Future and the author of the History of the Future @ http://drrobertowens.com © 2012 Robert R. Owens drrobertowens@hotmail.com Follow Dr. Robert Owens on Facebook or Twitter @ Drrobertowens

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 04/07/12 05:24 AM



Judge Nap has known it for some time and warned people. Even Neil Cavuto of Faux Noise has started to see the light the last few months and change his tune towards the truth, his opinions of Ron Paul, and his warnings.

Many of the news pundants have started to break the bonds of their masters, and many are paying for it. The trend is beginning! It is becoming more and more obvious that even the paid political mouthpieces are becoming scared of our nations course with Owe-Bummer and those like him at the wheel!

Is nobody paying attention? The plane is falling from the sky with only one destination, one outcome, and nobody's screaming but a few in the front!

Wake up people!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgrjbFofM-s&feature=player_embedded
haven't you all heard that one before,Change is coming?
Only about four years ago,and you're lucky you might have some Change left!
These days you need a whole load of Salt,when listening to Politicians!
A Grain of Salt is very insufficient!


Change is indeed coming Con..... and NOT for the better as long as the sheeple sleep!

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:00 AM




These days you need a whole load of Salt,when listening to Politicians!



Does that apply to all politicians?

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:03 AM


Supreme Contempt

Submitted by Dr Robert Owens on Fri, 04/06/2012 - 10:45

Recently President Obama made this remarkable statement, “Ultimately, I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress.” For someone reputed to be a former professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago this statement is hard to explain. Any high school student in a sophomore American History class knows there are many precedents for the Supreme Court making laws passed by Congress null and void. As a matter of fact, in the system of government tradition has delivered to us overturning laws as unconstitutional has been an important power of the Supreme Court for more than two hundred years.

And if the primary content of the President’s statement isn’t strange enough the supporting information is wrong. Obamacare wasn't passed by a strong majority in Congress. In reality the final vote in the House vote was 220 to 215. Every Republican and thirty four Democrats voted against the law. In the Senate the vote was sixty Democrats and Independents voting for and thirty nine Republicans voting against. The Democrats, even though they controlled both houses of Congress knew they would lose enough of their own members that it was going to be a close vote so they moved the bill outside the regular order of business and used a legislative maneuver known as reconciliation to avoid giving the Republicans the opportunity to filibuster the law.

What is the context of these current pressure tactics being used by the executive branch on the judicial branch?

Soon after taking office in 1829, President Andrew Jackson a long time Indian fighter spearheaded one of his signature pieces of legislation through Congress: the Indian Removal Act. This act gave the president the power to negotiate treaties with the various tribes which still existed in America East of the Mississippi. These treaties, often accepted either under duress or under questionable circumstances seized the lands of the tribes and forced them to move West to the Indian Territory in what is today Oklahoma. The time for fighting had passed and most of the tribes quietly left their ancestral lands.

One tribe decided to try another route. The Cherokee Nation had adopted the ways of the Europeans. They devised their own written language and wrote their own Constitution. They had their own plantations, printing presses, and businesses. They also had their own lawyers and instead of going on the warpath as their ancestors had done they went to court to fight the orders from the State of Georgia which dispossessed them of their land.

In two cases; Cherokee Nation v. Georgia (1831) and Worcester v. Georgia (1832), the United States Supreme Court considered whether or not it had the power to enforce the rights of Native American nations in disputes between them and the states. In Cherokee Nation v. Georgia, the Court ruled that it lacked jurisdiction to review the claims of any Indian nation within the United States. In Worcester v. Georgia, the Court ruled that only the Federal Government not the states, had the power to regulate the Indian nations.

What the ruling in Worcester v. Georgia meant was that Georgia could not legally seize the Cherokee lands. It was at this junction when referring to the majority opinion written by Chief Justice John Marshall that President Andrew Jackson made one his most famous statements, “Mr. Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!” Instead of enforcing the ruling the Federal government joined in and the result was the Trail of Tears as the Cherokee lost their lands and moved west.

Franklin D. Roosevelt legislating Keynesian economic philosophy in the New Deal sought to end the Depression through government spending and central control. With massive majorities in both houses of Congress the president’s agenda was enacted as quickly as possible. Then less than three years after the New Deal began to transform America the Supreme Court began overturning some of the central portions of Roosevelt's program

In response to this resistance to his vision for what should be done FDR decided to pack the court with Justices who would support his laws. What he proposed was that for any justice over the age of seventy who refused to retire, the president could appoint a new justice to sit beside the current justice and do his work. If his plan had been adopted and none of the then current Justices retired he would have been able to appoint six new Justices. Since he couldn’t force the conservative justices to retire he sought in this way to outnumber them and thus change the ideological complexion of the court. As the president moved ahead in his attempt to pack the court the Supremes started ruling in his favor which eventually stopped the need for his effort to influence the court through overwhelming appointments. Then time and attrition did what he had tried to do with legislation. By 1941, four justices had retired and two had died consequently by the end of his presidency seven of the nine justices were Roosevelt appointees.

Now we come full circle to President Obama and his obvious attempt to belittle and intimidate the court. Should anyone be surprised? This is nothing more than standard operating procedure for a Chicago politician. It is also a normal technique for a community organizer who has been trained in the tactics of Saul Alinsky. No, we shouldn’t be surprised but we could have expected more of anyone who has been entrusted with the highest office in the land. It is just such crude strong-arm tactics such as this which open Mr. Obama up to charges of being a typical South Chicago thug. If he wishes to avoid such charges he needs to avoid such actions.

The above brief review clearly shows that this was not the first attempt of a president to influence the court. However coming from one who is constantly extolled as a constitutional scholar it is certainly disquieting. As a constitutional scholar the president would obviously know what he said was incorrect leaving no other interpretation to his words than a conscious effort to alter the traditional system of checks and balances and the power relationship between the separate branches of the federal government.

Dr. Owens teaches History, Political Science, and Religion for Southside Virginia Community College. He is the Historian of the Future and the author of the History of the Future @ http://drrobertowens.com © 2012 Robert R. Owens drrobertowens@hotmail.com Follow Dr. Robert Owens on Facebook or Twitter @ Drrobertowens

well,the "Constitutional" Lawyer might have another Think coming!laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:04 AM





These days you need a whole load of Salt,when listening to Politicians!



Does that apply to all politicians?
more or less,but especially to your Friend Galloway!:laughing:

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:12 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 04/07/12 07:12 AM
Ahhh Gorgeous George

One of the few real politicians leftdrinker

Ron Paul a close seconddrinker

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:15 AM

Ahhh Gorgeous George

One of the few real politicians leftdrinker
yep,a REAL Text-Book Politician!

here is a real BIG One!


Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:18 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 04/07/12 07:19 AM
Back to the Topic

Sorry for the distractionoops offtopic


Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:24 AM

Ahhh Gorgeous George

One of the few real politicians leftdrinker

Ron Paul a close seconddrinker
you really want to insult Paul now by comparing him with crooked Galloway?

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/07/12 07:26 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 04/07/12 07:49 AM
Just simply saying ..these two men speak their minds...George has more freedom than Paul because.......America have a way of dealing with the outspoken

George Galloway challenged the American Government to bring him to court if they had anything on him and guess what

George is still speaking his minddrinker

We should all speak our minds...drinker

Thank someone that we have more freedom at this side of the Alantic.

Tony Blair tried to take us down Dumbed Down Alley but thanks to the likes of GG we are resisting.