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lilott's photo
Sun 08/12/12 06:25 PM
THIS IS SIMPLY FIRST CLASS EASY TO READ, EASY TO UNDERSTAND,

DETECTIVE WORK....AND IT INCLUDES THE



LINKS TO DOCUMENTATION


HOW NO ONE GETS A REASSIGNED SS NUMBER



An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security number (SSN) is being used by President Obama: Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 (Obama's current SSN) on or about March

1977. Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut . Because of that, his SSN begins with the digits

042, which are among only a select few reserved for Connecticut residents. Obama never lived or

worked in that state! Therefore, there is no reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None
whatsoever! Now comes the best part! Ludwig spent the final months of his life Hawaii , where he died.
Conveniently, Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals. The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig's death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised. The suspicion, of course, is that Dunham, knowing her grandson was not a U.S. Citizen, either because he was born in Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia upon his adoption by Lolo Soetoro simply scoured the probate records until she found someone who died who was not receiving Social Security benefits,

and selected Mr. Ludwig's Connecticut SSN for Obama. Just wait until Trump gets past the birth certificate and onto the issue of Barry O's use of a stolen SSN. You will see leftist heads exploding, because they will have no way of defending Obama. Although many Americans do not understand the meaning of the term "natural born" there are few who do not understand that if you are using someone else's SSN it is a clear indication of fraud. Let's all get this information out to everybody on our mailing lists.. If the voters of this great nation can succeed in bringing this lying, deceitful, cheating, corrupt, impostor to justice it will be the biggest and best news in decades for our country and the world.

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Very Interesting Bit of Detective Work:
1.
Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth

certificate' state he is 'African-American when the term wasn't even used at that time?

2.
The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961.

It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's

birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in
" Kenya , East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya

did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth.

How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and

until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the " British East Africa Protectorate".

3.
On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity

Gynecological Hospital ". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been allpied to it until 1978; 17 years later? Resources:

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx
Post-colonial history (from Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya
Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media ??

LET THIS CIRCLE THE NATION, PASS IT ON.



willing2's photo
Sun 08/12/12 06:34 PM
The o'Blomenites are gonna' call it all lies.:wink: smokin


lilott's photo
Sun 08/12/12 06:44 PM
I don't know if this is true but if it is then Obummer and his wife both should be arrested and put in prison for the rest of their lives.

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Sun 08/12/12 07:31 PM
THAT IS VERY INTERESTING.

Question is, what are they going to do with this information???



lilott's photo
Sun 08/12/12 07:43 PM

THAT IS VERY INTERESTING.

Question is, what are they going to do with this information???



Who knows.

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Mon 08/13/12 08:34 AM
Edited by alleoops on Mon 08/13/12 08:47 AM
Barak Hussein Obama - Who is he?




Optomistic69's photo
Mon 08/13/12 08:42 AM
No Problem

This Guy is more than likely on OBamas side

If anyone can Alan Canbigsmile


msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/12 08:43 AM
wow

just a few letters typed into a search engine is all the research needed to verify or clarify or debunk this

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp



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Mon 08/13/12 08:46 AM

wow

just a few letters typed into a search engine is all the research needed to verify or clarify or debunk this

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp





On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity

Gynecological Hospital ". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been allpied to it until 1978; 17 years later? Resources:

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Mon 08/13/12 08:49 AM
It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's

birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in
" Kenya , East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/12 08:50 AM


wow

just a few letters typed into a search engine is all the research needed to verify or clarify or debunk this

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp





On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity

Gynecological Hospital ". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been allpied to it until 1978; 17 years later? Resources:




did you read the snopes page?

I cant use the copy function but here is a birth certificate from the day after


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Mon 08/13/12 08:55 AM

wow

just a few letters typed into a search engine is all the research needed to verify or clarify or debunk this

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp





Snopes isn't very reliable, they've been known to be wrong, many times.

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Mon 08/13/12 08:59 AM
Edited by alleoops on Mon 08/13/12 09:00 AM

Lock him out.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/12 09:08 AM


wow

just a few letters typed into a search engine is all the research needed to verify or clarify or debunk this

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp





Snopes isn't very reliable, they've been known to be wrong, many times.


ha ha. of course

as opposed to the sources repeating this stuff, who are VERY reliable...

so here is more verification, they certainly arent ALL unreliable, ,especially the ones who hace received AWARDS for their reporting


http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/yes-there-was-a-kapiolani-maternity-gynecological-hospital-in-1961/


and again here complete with actual photos of DOCUMENTS and ARTICLES from that time bearing the hospital name

http://irregulartimes.com/diaries/2011/04/check-the-facts-kapiolani-maternity-gynecological-hospital/


and in this document distributed as a resource guide at that time

http://www.sacredhealing.com/triadoption/AAOMH/Hawaii.pdf

A Brief History of Kapiʻolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital

In 1890, using inherited land from her deceased sister on the condition it would be used to help Hawaiian maternity mothers, Queen Kapiʻolani, raised $8,000 and founded the Kapiʻolani Home of the Hoolu and Hoola Lahui Society.

Throughout the years the needs of mothers having babies grew and more property needed to be acquired and eventually in 1918 the home moved to a two-story house with 25 beds. It was then when the name was first changed to the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home and for the first time the doors were opened to all women, not just Hawaiians.

In 1929, as the needs continued to grow the home moved again to a larger building with 50 beds and expanded its mission to the study and treatment of non-infectious gynecological problems.

Three years later, in 1931, the name was changed to the Kapiʻolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.

This is the name of the facility that appeared on the long form certificate of live birth of Barack Hussein Obama II.

The hospital kept this name until 1971, ten years after the birth of Barack Obama, when they changed its name to Kapiʻolani Hospital. Between 1929 and 1977 this facility delivered 145,000 babies.




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Mon 08/13/12 09:10 AM

double wow
just a few letters typed into a search engine is all the research needed to verify or clarify or debunk this
http://www.metroedit.com/2009/05/how-accurate-is-snopescom/

note: i'm not saying either link is true or untrue. it's difficult to know the motivation of each source. in the end, it's up to the reader to believe or to question and do more research

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/12 09:20 AM
and another image with the name ,,PRIOR to obamas birth year



but I guess these could all be elaborate government plants years after the fact to make it LOOK like it existed,,,,whoa

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Mon 08/13/12 09:23 AM

and another image with the name ,,PRIOR to obamas birth year



but I guess these could all be elaborate government plants years after the fact to make it LOOK like it existed,,,,whoa

You mean like his birth certificate?

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/12 09:29 AM


and another image with the name ,,PRIOR to obamas birth year



but I guess these could all be elaborate government plants years after the fact to make it LOOK like it existed,,,,whoa

You mean like his birth certificate?



anything that would have been pointless in the sixties to put that effort into 'forging' on a federal level for a newborn whose future was just as undetermined as any other,,,,,,



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Mon 08/13/12 09:33 AM


Conveniently, Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals.

The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig’s death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.

The suspicion, of course, is that Dunham, knowing her grandson was not a U.S. citizen, either because he was born in Kenya or became acitizen of Indonesia upon his adoption by Lolo Soetoro simply scoured the probate records until she found someone who died who was not receiving Social Security benefits, and selected Mr. Ludwig’s Connecticut SSN for Obama.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/12 09:39 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

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