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Topic: ill Maher :‘The Israelis Are Controlling Our Government’
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Thu 02/21/13 08:52 PM



It would seem most people feel this way.

Maher: “Based on every statement I’ve heard from every Republican in the last two years, the Israelis are controlling our government,” he said, prompting a huge applause from the audience.

Watch the segment here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xTJOsEXBZBQ


Applause from Maher's audience does not imply that "most people feel this way".


BIS seems to feel that popularity confirms his contention's accuracy.


I have yet to see proof of the supposed popularity

I think most of us know that we prolly have a great deal more influence in Isreal the 51st State then the Israelis have in DC:tongue:

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Thu 02/21/13 09:04 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 02/21/13 09:28 PM

Here is a good question. If Hitler hated Jews because of the way they were taking over the banking and finance aspects of Germany and the Rothschilds were considered to be "German Jews," (as history claims) then how did this family escape the holocaust?


Hitler was an anti-Semite and being English Aristocrats, the family was out of Hitler's reach.

After all, didn't Hitler accuse international Jewish bankers of engineering the Versailles Treaty which destroyed Germany financially? Wasn't Hitler's wrath aimed squarely in the direction of the international Jewish bankers, namely the House of Rothschild?


The reality of the Versailles treaty was the imposition of war reparations by the Allies. Of course Hitler hated the Jewish bankers, he was a vehement anti-Semite. Thankfully, most international bankers were living abroad, as (obviously) Berlin was not a strong financial centre at the time.

Hitler did say, "The bigger the lie…the more people will believe it".


Yes, this was his MO. That is how he coerced the people into acts of anti-Semitism (it is known as the fear of the common enemy technique), and that is how he achieved his position.

Think about it...Did Hitler kill any Jewish international bankers? The answer is no.


Well, obviously not, as most were living in international financial centres (e.g. London, Geneva, New York).

In fact some members of the Warburg banking family were given a Nazi escort out of Holland in a sealed train.


So were many other Jews.

Virtually all members of the German Warburg family had fled to the United States or Great Britain by 1938. However, two cousins, mother and daughter Gerta and Betty Warburg, stayed in Altona. They were murdered in the Sobibor extermination camp in 1940. Eric Warburg, son of Max Warburg, returned to Germany and was influential in restoring Germany's reputation after the Second World War. Eric's son, also called Max, is currently a partner in M.M. Warburg & CO. in Hamburg.


..When the Gestapo went to the Rothschild mansion to arrest the head of the Vienna branch they were told by the butler to come back the following day. They did. Then they had to wait for the Baron to finish his lunch...


Oddly enough, I have been unable to verify this anecdote, however...

After the Anschluß (Annexation) of Austria by Nazi Germany in 1938, the family were forced to flee and the estates seized by the Nazis. The Rothschild family fled and the Nazi seizure included their palaces and priceless collections. The Gestapo moved in and used the Palais in Vienna for their interrogations. The building itself was heavily damaged during Allied bombing raids in 1944.

There WAS the case of the estranged wife of a French Rothschild. "Why should the Germans harm me?" she had asked her husband in 1940. "I am from an old French family." Despite disowning the Rothschild family name (unheard of!) and reverting to her original title of nobility, she was arrested by the Gestapo in July 1944 and sent by the last transport to Ravensbruck where she was brutally murdered...]


Pray tell, what does this prove to you? She didn't survive the Gestapo so....?

"Morgan is referred to by many, including Congressman Louis McFadden, (a banker who for ten years headed the House Banking and Currency Committee), as the top American agent of the English Rothschilds."


So, how is 'agent' interpreted exactly? A financial sense? A link placing the quote in context is important here.

So the question remains…Was Hitler a Rothschild customer or an agent as well?


Well, the question does remain for the above did nothing to prove it whatsoever. Actually, the whole post didn't explain your contention very well at all. Furthermore, some of the so-called 'facts' were tenuous or incorrect.





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Thu 02/21/13 09:06 PM


BIS seems to feel that popularity confirms his contention's accuracy.


I have yet to see proof of the supposed popularity


Exactly, it is just that he has argued from popularity on a number of occasions.

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Thu 02/21/13 09:25 PM
Hitler was an anti-Semite and being English Aristocrats, the family was out of Hitler's reach.


I thought the contention about the Rothschilds is that they were Jews.
Now you are calling them English Aristocrats?

They were rich bankers, and Zionists. The reason they were not taken and killed by Hitler is because they are obviously not "Jews" at all and they were helping finance Hitler's rise to power.

Either that, or Hitler was told just to collect just every day hard working Jews, and leave the wealthy banker Jews alone. If that is the case, then his hatred for Jews had nothing to do with their Banking practices.

Rothschild Zionists and Hitler were partners. The Morgans took over the financing of both sides of the war for the Rothschilds who wanted to distance themselves from Hitler. Hitler was even said to be a Rothschild himself.


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Thu 02/21/13 09:31 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 02/21/13 09:32 PM
Hitler was an anti-Semite and being English Aristocrats, the family was out of Hitler's reach.


I thought the contention about the Rothschilds is that they were Jews.
Now you are calling them English Aristocrats?


Lord denotes aristocrat. What is your problem here? Did you not read my post about the branch in Austria? Did you read the whole post at all before you responded to this?

They were rich bankers, and Zionists. The reason they were not taken and killed by Hitler is because they are obviously not "Jews" at all and they were helping finance Hitler's rise to power.

Either that, or Hitler was told just to collect just every day hard working Jews, and leave the wealthy banker Jews alone. If that is the case, then his hatred for Jews had nothing to do with their Banking practices.

Rothschild Zionists and Hitler were partners. The Morgans took over the financing of both sides of the war for the Rothschilds who wanted to distance themselves from Hitler. Hitler was even said to be a Rothschild himself.


Have you any way of verifying this trash?

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Thu 02/21/13 09:35 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/21/13 09:37 PM

Hitler was an anti-Semite and being English Aristocrats, the family was out of Hitler's reach.


I thought the contention about the Rothschilds is that they were Jews.
Now you are calling them English Aristocrats?


Lord denotes aristocrat. What is your problem here? Did you not read my post about the branch in Austria? Did you read the whole post at all before you responded to this?

They were rich bankers, and Zionists. The reason they were not taken and killed by Hitler is because they are obviously not "Jews" at all and they were helping finance Hitler's rise to power.

Either that, or Hitler was told just to collect just every day hard working Jews, and leave the wealthy banker Jews alone. If that is the case, then his hatred for Jews had nothing to do with their Banking practices.

Rothschild Zionists and Hitler were partners. The Morgans took over the financing of both sides of the war for the Rothschilds who wanted to distance themselves from Hitler. Hitler was even said to be a Rothschild himself.


Have you any way of verifying this trash?


Of course, but it would take a long time and I don't have the time to waste. Do your own work.

I don't care.

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Thu 02/21/13 09:42 PM


Hitler was an anti-Semite and being English Aristocrats, the family was out of Hitler's reach.


I thought the contention about the Rothschilds is that they were Jews.
Now you are calling them English Aristocrats?


Lord denotes aristocrat. What is your problem here? Did you not read my post about the branch in Austria? Did you read the whole post at all before you responded to this?

They were rich bankers, and Zionists. The reason they were not taken and killed by Hitler is because they are obviously not "Jews" at all and they were helping finance Hitler's rise to power.

Either that, or Hitler was told just to collect just every day hard working Jews, and leave the wealthy banker Jews alone. If that is the case, then his hatred for Jews had nothing to do with their Banking practices.

Rothschild Zionists and Hitler were partners. The Morgans took over the financing of both sides of the war for the Rothschilds who wanted to distance themselves from Hitler. Hitler was even said to be a Rothschild himself.


Have you any way of verifying this trash?


Of course, but it would take a long time and I don't have the time to waste. Do your own work.

I don't care.


I verified the points in your previous post and proved much of it to be false. This latest post is even more illogical and again lacking in links to any source.

But thanks, your lack of co-operation and poor debating skills just give me cause to ignore your drivel for the trash it is.

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Thu 02/21/13 09:53 PM



Hitler was an anti-Semite and being English Aristocrats, the family was out of Hitler's reach.


I thought the contention about the Rothschilds is that they were Jews.
Now you are calling them English Aristocrats?


Lord denotes aristocrat. What is your problem here? Did you not read my post about the branch in Austria? Did you read the whole post at all before you responded to this?

They were rich bankers, and Zionists. The reason they were not taken and killed by Hitler is because they are obviously not "Jews" at all and they were helping finance Hitler's rise to power.

Either that, or Hitler was told just to collect just every day hard working Jews, and leave the wealthy banker Jews alone. If that is the case, then his hatred for Jews had nothing to do with their Banking practices.

Rothschild Zionists and Hitler were partners. The Morgans took over the financing of both sides of the war for the Rothschilds who wanted to distance themselves from Hitler. Hitler was even said to be a Rothschild himself.


Have you any way of verifying this trash?


Of course, but it would take a long time and I don't have the time to waste. Do your own work.

I don't care.


I verified the points in your previous post and proved much of it to be false. This latest post is even more illogical and again lacking in links to any source.

But thanks, your lack of co-operation and poor debating skills just give me cause to ignore your drivel for the trash it is.


Prove it false then. Don't just make claims,

Convince me.


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Thu 02/21/13 10:00 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 02/21/13 10:01 PM




Hitler was an anti-Semite and being English Aristocrats, the family was out of Hitler's reach.


I thought the contention about the Rothschilds is that they were Jews.
Now you are calling them English Aristocrats?


Lord denotes aristocrat. What is your problem here? Did you not read my post about the branch in Austria? Did you read the whole post at all before you responded to this?

They were rich bankers, and Zionists. The reason they were not taken and killed by Hitler is because they are obviously not "Jews" at all and they were helping finance Hitler's rise to power.

Either that, or Hitler was told just to collect just every day hard working Jews, and leave the wealthy banker Jews alone. If that is the case, then his hatred for Jews had nothing to do with their Banking practices.

Rothschild Zionists and Hitler were partners. The Morgans took over the financing of both sides of the war for the Rothschilds who wanted to distance themselves from Hitler. Hitler was even said to be a Rothschild himself.


Have you any way of verifying this trash?


Of course, but it would take a long time and I don't have the time to waste. Do your own work.

I don't care.


I verified the points in your previous post and proved much of it to be false. This latest post is even more illogical and again lacking in links to any source.

But thanks, your lack of co-operation and poor debating skills just give me cause to ignore your drivel for the trash it is.


Prove it false then. Don't just make claims,

Convince me.


I know you don't understand 'burden of proof' so I won't bother going through that concept yet again. You're not making me jump through hoops for your pleasure. Anyone can see your contention is crap just by my cursory investigation into your previous post.

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Thu 02/21/13 10:06 PM





Hitler was an anti-Semite and being English Aristocrats, the family was out of Hitler's reach.


I thought the contention about the Rothschilds is that they were Jews.
Now you are calling them English Aristocrats?


Lord denotes aristocrat. What is your problem here? Did you not read my post about the branch in Austria? Did you read the whole post at all before you responded to this?

They were rich bankers, and Zionists. The reason they were not taken and killed by Hitler is because they are obviously not "Jews" at all and they were helping finance Hitler's rise to power.

Either that, or Hitler was told just to collect just every day hard working Jews, and leave the wealthy banker Jews alone. If that is the case, then his hatred for Jews had nothing to do with their Banking practices.

Rothschild Zionists and Hitler were partners. The Morgans took over the financing of both sides of the war for the Rothschilds who wanted to distance themselves from Hitler. Hitler was even said to be a Rothschild himself.


Have you any way of verifying this trash?


Of course, but it would take a long time and I don't have the time to waste. Do your own work.

I don't care.


I verified the points in your previous post and proved much of it to be false. This latest post is even more illogical and again lacking in links to any source.

But thanks, your lack of co-operation and poor debating skills just give me cause to ignore your drivel for the trash it is.


Prove it false then. Don't just make claims,

Convince me.


I know you don't understand 'burden of proof' so I won't bother going through that concept yet again. You're not making me jump through hoops for your pleasure. Anyone can see your contention is crap just by my cursory investigation into your previous post.


Since you prove to be quite useless to me I will not talk to you any more. Please do me the same favor.


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