Topic: The Tyranny of the Low Information Voter
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Sat 03/09/13 07:11 AM
Edited by alleoops on Sat 03/09/13 07:18 AM


I believe it was Jim Geraghty that coined the headline of this post, but it keeps turning around in my mind. Tam highlights a particularly vacuous campaign video appearing this season in Indiana. The worst part about an election like this is that the partisans, on both sides, have already made up their minds. Studies have shown that partisans are generally the best informed voters, when it comes to the issues, no matter what side you’re on. The rest of this silly season is bringing the folks, who barely pay attention, over to your side so you can actually win the election. Whether anyone likes it or not, you need these people to actually win.

So you get politicians making these vacuous ads, because they want the low-information voters* to like and identify with them — I’m a great politician, you see. I care about our troops, and you care about our troops too, so don’t you think I’m a great guy to vote for? I not only care about our troops in general, but out troops from your very specific tribe! How wonderful! — The low-information voter won’t know much in November, but politicians will be hoping ads like this strike an emotional chord, and stick strongly in the memories of people who barely pay attention. This is how elections are won and lost, unfortunately, when partisans can’t decisively win on the strength of their base. That’s the case for neither party today.

In parliamentary systems, partisans are more free to be loyal to parties that most closely match their beliefs, and leave the coalition building to the politicians in the government. In our system, coalition building happens outside the apparatus of government, and compromises are forged in civil society. Some argue the former is better, but I tend to think the latter is. I’d much rather trust civic entities to make compromises than state entities. But the unfortunate side effect of forging coalitions in civil society is having to persuade the low-information voter that your guy is really their guy, and the result are ads like Tam highlights. I wish I knew how to fix that problem, without putting more power in the hands of politicians, but I don’t really have a good answer.

* Before libertarians get offended that I’m suggesting they are low information voters, rather than partisans, they are not. Libertarians are among the most partisan and informed around. But not enough people don the wookie suit to be a real factor in elections. You have many people who are libertarianish, but a strong ideology that doesn’t involve a deity is a rare breed, whether your deity is God or Government. Winning the unwashed masses will take some degree of pragmatism.

http://www.pagunblog.com/2012/07/26/the-tyranny-of-the-low-information-voter/

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Sun 03/10/13 10:41 AM
Please... One man's lie is another man's truth. All truth is subjective. Two people can watch the exact same events play out, and each will describe the action different from the other.

We all see what we want, and ignore what doesn't best serve our purposes.

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Sun 03/10/13 11:26 AM
This is a ridiculous talking point/meme for the right wing blabbermouths. When they say "low information" they usually really mean "didn't believe or memorize the propaganda and misinformation spoon-fed by the media and/or regime". People who are truly "high information" know that the nonsense that passes for "fact" in media and from the Ministry Of Truth (Orwellian lingo for official government mouthpieces) is all or mostly BS.

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Sun 03/10/13 12:12 PM
Edited by alleoops on Sun 03/10/13 12:13 PM

Please... One man's lie is another man's truth. All truth is subjective. Two people can watch the exact same events play out, and each will describe the action different from the other.

We all see what we want, and ignore what doesn't best serve our purposes.


But most LIV don't bother to watch or listen to anything of value to form their own opinion about a topic. They simply believe what others tell them.

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Sun 03/10/13 12:15 PM


Please... One man's lie is another man's truth. All truth is subjective. Two people can watch the exact same events play out, and each will describe the action different from the other.

We all see what we want, and ignore what doesn't best serve our purposes.


But most LIV don't bother to watch or listen to anything of value to form their own opinion about a topic. They simply believe what others tell them.



In other words, what heavenlyboy said about the BS machine....telling people things (bs).

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Sun 03/10/13 12:48 PM



I believe it was Jim Geraghty that coined the headline of this post, but it keeps turning around in my mind. Tam highlights a particularly vacuous campaign video appearing this season in Indiana. The worst part about an election like this is that the partisans, on both sides, have already made up their minds. Studies have shown that partisans are generally the best informed voters, when it comes to the issues, no matter what side you’re on. The rest of this silly season is bringing the folks, who barely pay attention, over to your side so you can actually win the election. Whether anyone likes it or not, you need these people to actually win.

So you get politicians making these vacuous ads, because they want the low-information voters* to like and identify with them — I’m a great politician, you see. I care about our troops, and you care about our troops too, so don’t you think I’m a great guy to vote for? I not only care about our troops in general, but out troops from your very specific tribe! How wonderful! — The low-information voter won’t know much in November, but politicians will be hoping ads like this strike an emotional chord, and stick strongly in the memories of people who barely pay attention. This is how elections are won and lost, unfortunately, when partisans can’t decisively win on the strength of their base. That’s the case for neither party today.

In parliamentary systems, partisans are more free to be loyal to parties that most closely match their beliefs, and leave the coalition building to the politicians in the government. In our system, coalition building happens outside the apparatus of government, and compromises are forged in civil society. Some argue the former is better, but I tend to think the latter is. I’d much rather trust civic entities to make compromises than state entities. But the unfortunate side effect of forging coalitions in civil society is having to persuade the low-information voter that your guy is really their guy, and the result are ads like Tam highlights. I wish I knew how to fix that problem, without putting more power in the hands of politicians, but I don’t really have a good answer.

* Before libertarians get offended that I’m suggesting they are low information voters, rather than partisans, they are not. Libertarians are among the most partisan and informed around. But not enough people don the wookie suit to be a real factor in elections. You have many people who are libertarianish, but a strong ideology that doesn’t involve a deity is a rare breed, whether your deity is God or Government. Winning the unwashed masses will take some degree of pragmatism.

http://www.pagunblog.com/2012/07/26/the-tyranny-of-the-low-information-voter/


Well, they have it right, just the candidate and targets wrong.

We suffer from the misinformed Republican populace in this country.

Most of them vote against their own best interest.

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Sun 03/10/13 03:04 PM




I believe it was Jim Geraghty that coined the headline of this post, but it keeps turning around in my mind. Tam highlights a particularly vacuous campaign video appearing this season in Indiana. The worst part about an election like this is that the partisans, on both sides, have already made up their minds. Studies have shown that partisans are generally the best informed voters, when it comes to the issues, no matter what side you’re on. The rest of this silly season is bringing the folks, who barely pay attention, over to your side so you can actually win the election. Whether anyone likes it or not, you need these people to actually win.

So you get politicians making these vacuous ads, because they want the low-information voters* to like and identify with them — I’m a great politician, you see. I care about our troops, and you care about our troops too, so don’t you think I’m a great guy to vote for? I not only care about our troops in general, but out troops from your very specific tribe! How wonderful! — The low-information voter won’t know much in November, but politicians will be hoping ads like this strike an emotional chord, and stick strongly in the memories of people who barely pay attention. This is how elections are won and lost, unfortunately, when partisans can’t decisively win on the strength of their base. That’s the case for neither party today.

In parliamentary systems, partisans are more free to be loyal to parties that most closely match their beliefs, and leave the coalition building to the politicians in the government. In our system, coalition building happens outside the apparatus of government, and compromises are forged in civil society. Some argue the former is better, but I tend to think the latter is. I’d much rather trust civic entities to make compromises than state entities. But the unfortunate side effect of forging coalitions in civil society is having to persuade the low-information voter that your guy is really their guy, and the result are ads like Tam highlights. I wish I knew how to fix that problem, without putting more power in the hands of politicians, but I don’t really have a good answer.

* Before libertarians get offended that I’m suggesting they are low information voters, rather than partisans, they are not. Libertarians are among the most partisan and informed around. But not enough people don the wookie suit to be a real factor in elections. You have many people who are libertarianish, but a strong ideology that doesn’t involve a deity is a rare breed, whether your deity is God or Government. Winning the unwashed masses will take some degree of pragmatism.

http://www.pagunblog.com/2012/07/26/the-tyranny-of-the-low-information-voter/


Well, they have it right, just the candidate and targets wrong.

We suffer from the misinformed Republican populace in this country.

Most of them vote against their own best interest.


laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 03/10/13 04:48 PM
The misinformed are those who believe Rupubes and Dumbocracks are two separate parties.

They hold the monopoly on who gets to play the game.

Their debate rules should be ruled unconstitutional and all candidates be granted equal time.