Topic: The mark of the beast
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Sun 06/16/13 08:20 PM

I completely agree with you I also believe that the mark of the beast is already here it's just not in full operation also what people don't realize is once they receive the name or the number of the beast they cannot be saved ijs
That's certain. They loved money more than God.

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Sun 06/16/13 08:23 PM

Also, Christians claim that Jesus died for all humans! Even the micro-chipped ones.laugh

If you believe in Christianity, you believe that he died FOR ALL MANKIND... not just for the people in YOUR PARTICULAR CHURCH. Not just people baptized by your church, and not just people who are born again, and not just people who have no micro-chip credit card.

All of mankind. Everyone. All humans.

So stop making stuff up that suits your particular religion.

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Sun 06/16/13 08:23 PM
Edited by onlyson on Sun 06/16/13 08:52 PM


Also, Christians claim that Jesus died for all humans! Even the micro-chipped ones.laugh talk about making stuff up. Smh.

If you believe in Christianity, you believe that he died FOR ALL MANKIND... not just for the people in YOUR PARTICULAR CHURCH. Not just people baptized by your church, and not just people who are born again, and not just people who have no micro-chip credit card.

All of mankind. Everyone. All humans.

So stop making stuff up that suits your particular religion.


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Sun 06/16/13 08:24 PM
Talk about making stuff up. Smh.

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Sun 06/16/13 08:24 PM






" A chip is a more convenient form of what u already have". Wow!!! I neva looked at it this way, if this be so , then all of society is worshipping the big ugly beast right now except those who are living homeless on the street and train stations and are totally disconnected from the world systems. Pretty much living like the birds of the air and the flower of the fields waitin on YHWH to feed and clothes them rofl



Yes this would be true IF any of this "mark of the beast" myth has any truth to it at all

The truth is, money represents an exchange of energy. You work, and you are compensated for it. It is neither good or evil.

If you buy into this "mark of the beast" idea, then everyone already has accepted it.

We all allow the government to govern us and it has been taken over by evil and corruption, and yet we work for them, pay them, support them and their wars, and we worship them when we pledge allegiance to their symbols like their flags and monuments, and we send our sons and daughters to die for them in their conquest for world domination.

We all work for the beast.






I agree money is no mark.. If it was then when Yahshua said.

Give to Ceaser what is ceasers and to Yahweh what is his. It was a roman coin he said to give to ceaser.. Also at the Feast of Tabernacles if u lived far away and could not bring the 1st fruits of Grain, animals ect to give to Yahweh you were allowed to sell it for money and bring it as an offering. To say that money is the mark is to say Yahshua told his disciples to give the mark to ceaser. This is why I say over and over u can not understand the Mark or so many things if u do not know the Torah very well and the only way u can understand the Torah is to keep the Feasts of Lev. 23 and the food health laws for sure.. the sacrafices everyone says has no value from the Torah but once u do it for Years the Torah is where the NT Prophecies came from.

TO yahushua the coin re-presences PRAISE!!! why do you think he told Peter to go and get the coin out of the fishes' Mouth?!
Beg to differ... we are to give to ceaser what is suppose given to ceaser the coin mana!!! Out of the mouth of babes comes Praise which is greatly OWED to the FATHER!!!!



Ok then explain how the Jewish occupation which Yahshua was a part of paid their taxes as this was done at the Feast of Tabernacles as all were required to come to Jerusalem for the feast. This is why their was a census at that time also.

Gen 1:1 - Luke 2:3

And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. 2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. 3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city.
NKJV

Now Yahshua saying to give to ceaser what do u think ceaser accepted? A shekel?

and also if this was allowed then , then why not now?

Gen 1:1 - Rom 13:3

Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from Yahweh, and the authorities that exist are appointed by Yahweh. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of Elohim, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority ?
NKJV

Their was the Roman Authority and we have them also.. Yahsua said to give to them so how can money be the mark?

Okay uhmmm I'm sorry I don't mean to OFFEND!!!! if I can't take this goes any further ....I will say this much the JEWS YOU SPEAK OF ARE Khazarsian....until you understand their history i can't go into anymore with you !!!! again NO OFFENSE!!!


u will not offend me. If I am wrong show me.. its a win win situation. either way I build my faith stronger

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Sun 06/16/13 08:26 PM
Edited by William8 on Sun 06/16/13 08:29 PM


My life is my most precious possession and I will not willingly ever give it up for any religious notions like that. I believe that would be the greatest "sin" of all.


Mark 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

Matthew 16:26   For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOUR LIFE IS TO SAVE YOUR SOUL.

Revelation 13:8   And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 14:11   And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

THERE IS ONLY TORMENT FOREVER FOR THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE BEAST.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

THIS CAN SIMPLY BE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS WHICH THE UNITED NATIONS UNDER THE CONTROL OF AMERICA ALREADY USE TO KEEP ALL COUNTRIES UNDER THEIR CONTROL.

SO THE USE OF ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND THE POWER OF THE UNIVERSAL POWER OF THE ECONOMY IS ALREADY A REALITY.



FYI my life is my soul.

I am soul.



A person either accepts Christ or rejects Him.

There are many ways to reject Him but only one way to accept Him.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

So the beast can only destroy your body, God can destroy both your body and soul.

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Sun 06/16/13 08:34 PM


Receiving the Beast's number, name or mark has to do with giving allegiance to the government this dictator will establish and to the false religion that will be an integral part of that system. The Bible uses the symbols of the forehead and the right hand to represent one's loyalty by thought and work—mental and physical allegiance
One this allegiance has been you will be PROGRAMED to worship the beast only there are two masters you will love one and hate the other!
Read your Bible if you disagree with someone go to the Scriptures ask God to open up
your understanding when you stand before God you will not receive Brownie points for be ignorant
Believe it or not this thing is real what are you going to do when the day comes that you have to choose between feeding your children or taking the mark because without it you will not be able to buy or sale
Hosea 4: 6 (KJV) My people perish from a lack of knowledge.





Without money (federal reserve notes, which basically represent debt) you cannot buy or sell either.

If you are so convinced that you will not accept the mark of the beast, then give up all your money, digital and paper.

If you can't or won't, then you already have ACCEPTED the mark of the beast.

A chip is simply a more convenient form of what you already have.




been there. Done that. What's your excuse?

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Sun 06/16/13 08:37 PM



My life is my most precious possession and I will not willingly ever give it up for any religious notions like that. I believe that would be the greatest "sin" of all.


Mark 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

Matthew 16:26   For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOUR LIFE IS TO SAVE YOUR SOUL.

Revelation 13:8   And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 14:11   And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

THERE IS ONLY TORMENT FOREVER FOR THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE BEAST.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

THIS CAN SIMPLY BE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS WHICH THE UNITED NATIONS UNDER THE CONTROL OF AMERICA ALREADY USE TO KEEP ALL COUNTRIES UNDER THEIR CONTROL.

SO THE USE OF ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND THE POWER OF THE UNIVERSAL POWER OF THE ECONOMY IS ALREADY A REALITY.



FYI my life is my soul.

I am soul.



A person either accepts Christ or rejects Him.

There are many ways to reject Him but only one way to accept Him.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

So the beast can only destroy your body, God can destroy both your body and soul.



Energy that Yahushua created( everything is created through the Son) can't be destroyed that is why he created hell for the fallen angels(* Not meant for man).... Much love dear friend!!! you know what? I think I'm done G-d love you but I think you need to seek him out about what you want to know!!! it's very very Hard for me and LONELY... when it comes to understanding.... Gomen ne ...Take care! again ask him to send you someone...I get enough grief trying to explain to those who are hard~ hearten not saying you are but I'm here to Up lift not drag down PEACE Be with you and always with you!!!

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Sun 06/16/13 08:37 PM




Receiving the Beast's number, name or mark has to do with giving allegiance to the government this dictator will establish and to the false religion that will be an integral part of that system. The Bible uses the symbols of the forehead and the right hand to represent one's loyalty by thought and work—mental and physical allegiance
One this allegiance has been you will be PROGRAMED to worship the beast only there are two masters you will love one and hate the other!
Read your Bible if you disagree with someone go to the Scriptures ask God to open up
your understanding when you stand before God you will not receive Brownie points for be ignorant
Believe it or not this thing is real what are you going to do when the day comes that you have to choose between feeding your children or taking the mark because without it you will not be able to buy or sale
Hosea 4: 6 (KJV) My people perish from a lack of knowledge.





Without money (federal reserve notes, which basically represent debt) you cannot buy or sell either.

If you are so convinced that you will not accept the mark of the beast, then give up all your money, digital and paper.

If you can't or won't, then you already have ACCEPTED the mark of the beast.

A chip is simply a more convenient form of what you already have.






I would give up my life ...this world is dominated by the lie...Best believe I'll give it UP!!! without even blinking!!!

Glory be to Yahushua!!!


Then to whom will you give all your money to? And when will you do this?

The government? The Church? I'm sure they will gladly take it from you.

If you have any money at all right now, then you have accepted the mark of the beast. If you have a credit card or a social security card then you have accepted the mark of the beast.

You would also give up your life?

You are totally under the control of your religion if you would do that.

My life is my most precious possession and I will not willingly ever give it up for any religious notions like that. I believe that would be the greatest "sin" of all.





more b.s. because we use money for purchasing we have already accepted the mark. Lol!

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Sun 06/16/13 08:43 PM


" A chip is a more convenient form of what u already have". Wow!!! I neva looked at it this way, if this be so , then all of society is worshipping the big ugly beast right now except those who are living homeless on the street and train stations and are totally disconnected from the world systems. Pretty much living like the birds of the air and the flower of the fields waitin on YHWH to feed and clothes them rofl



Yes this would be true IF any of this "mark of the beast" myth has any truth to it at all

The truth is, money represents an exchange of energy. You work, and you are compensated for it. It is neither good or evil.

If you buy into this "mark of the beast" idea, then everyone already has accepted it.

We all allow the government to govern us and it has been taken over by evil and corruption, and yet we work for them, pay them, support them and their wars, and we worship them when we pledge allegiance to their symbols like their flags and monuments, and we send our sons and daughters to die for them in their conquest for world domination.

We all work for the beast.




glad you cleared that up...speaking for yourself oof course. :banana:

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Sun 06/16/13 08:46 PM




" A chip is a more convenient form of what u already have". Wow!!! I neva looked at it this way, if this be so , then all of society is worshipping the big ugly beast right now except those who are living homeless on the street and train stations and are totally disconnected from the world systems. Pretty much living like the birds of the air and the flower of the fields waitin on YHWH to feed and clothes them rofl



Yes this would be true IF any of this "mark of the beast" myth has any truth to it at all

The truth is, money represents an exchange of energy. You work, and you are compensated for it. It is neither good or evil.

If you buy into this "mark of the beast" idea, then everyone already has accepted it.

We all allow the government to govern us and it has been taken over by evil and corruption, and yet we work for them, pay them, support them and their wars, and we worship them when we pledge allegiance to their symbols like their flags and monuments, and we send our sons and daughters to die for them in their conquest for world domination.

We all work for the beast.






I agree money is no mark.. If it was then when Yahshua said.

Give to Ceaser what is ceasers and to Yahweh what is his. It was a roman coin he said to give to ceaser.. Also at the Feast of Tabernacles if u lived far away and could not bring the 1st fruits of Grain, animals ect to give to Yahweh you were allowed to sell it for money and bring it as an offering. To say that money is the mark is to say Yahshua told his disciples to give the mark to ceaser. This is why I say over and over u can not understand the Mark or so many things if u do not know the Torah very well and the only way u can understand the Torah is to keep the Feasts of Lev. 23 and the food health laws for sure.. the sacrafices everyone says has no value from the Torah but once u do it for Years the Torah is where the NT Prophecies came from.

TO yahushua the coin re-presences PRAISE!!! why do you think he told Peter to go and get the coin out of the fishes' Mouth?!
Beg to differ... we are to give to ceaser what is suppose given to ceaser the coin mana!!! Out of the mouth of babes comes Praise which is greatly OWED to the FATHER!!!!


Name 1 thing Yahshua did that was not Praise to Yahweh?

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Sun 06/16/13 08:47 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/16/13 08:47 PM



" A chip is a more convenient form of what u already have". Wow!!! I neva looked at it this way, if this be so , then all of society is worshipping the big ugly beast right now except those who are living homeless on the street and train stations and are totally disconnected from the world systems. Pretty much living like the birds of the air and the flower of the fields waitin on YHWH to feed and clothes them rofl



Yes this would be true IF any of this "mark of the beast" myth has any truth to it at all

The truth is, money represents an exchange of energy. You work, and you are compensated for it. It is neither good or evil.

If you buy into this "mark of the beast" idea, then everyone already has accepted it.

We all allow the government to govern us and it has been taken over by evil and corruption, and yet we work for them, pay them, support them and their wars, and we worship them when we pledge allegiance to their symbols like their flags and monuments, and we send our sons and daughters to die for them in their conquest for world domination.

We all work for the beast.




glad you cleared that up...speaking for yourself oof course. :banana:


You especially. You spread mystical lies. Stop judging me and worry about your own soul.

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Sun 06/16/13 08:54 PM



My life is my most precious possession and I will not willingly ever give it up for any religious notions like that. I believe that would be the greatest "sin" of all.


Mark 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

Matthew 16:26   For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOUR LIFE IS TO SAVE YOUR SOUL.

Revelation 13:8   And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 14:11   And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

THERE IS ONLY TORMENT FOREVER FOR THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE BEAST.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

THIS CAN SIMPLY BE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS WHICH THE UNITED NATIONS UNDER THE CONTROL OF AMERICA ALREADY USE TO KEEP ALL COUNTRIES UNDER THEIR CONTROL.

SO THE USE OF ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND THE POWER OF THE UNIVERSAL POWER OF THE ECONOMY IS ALREADY A REALITY.



FYI my life is my soul.

I am soul.



A person either accepts Christ or rejects Him.

There are many ways to reject Him but only one way to accept Him.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

So the beast can only destroy your body, God can destroy both your body and soul.



"Christ" is consciousness. "Christ" is life.

I value my life and my existence and the existence of all things.

I am not worried about the superstitious beliefs of others.

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Sun 06/16/13 09:00 PM
Speaking of marks. The devil marks his own. But did they not know that God places a mark on his own also?

The world will not receive it. They will not recognize the mark God places on his own.

The world rejoices but the marked mourn.

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Sun 06/16/13 09:04 PM
Edited by onlyson on Sun 06/16/13 09:09 PM


"Christ" is consciousness. "Christ" is life.

I value my life and my existence and the existence of all things.

I am not worried about the superstitious beliefs of others.



unless you acknowledge that God/the Son of God has come in the flesh you have no life in you.

Even an animal has consciousness .

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Sun 06/16/13 09:09 PM
Edited by Momoiro_Usagi_7 on Sun 06/16/13 09:14 PM





Receiving the Beast's number, name or mark has to do with giving allegiance to the government this dictator will establish and to the false religion that will be an integral part of that system. The Bible uses the symbols of the forehead and the right hand to represent one's loyalty by thought and work—mental and physical allegiance
One this allegiance has been you will be PROGRAMED to worship the beast only there are two masters you will love one and hate the other!
Read your Bible if you disagree with someone go to the Scriptures ask God to open up
your understanding when you stand before God you will not receive Brownie points for be ignorant
Believe it or not this thing is real what are you going to do when the day comes that you have to choose between feeding your children or taking the mark because without it you will not be able to buy or sale
Hosea 4: 6 (KJV) My people perish from a lack of knowledge.





Without money (federal reserve notes, which basically represent debt) you cannot buy or sell either.

If you are so convinced that you will not accept the mark of the beast, then give up all your money, digital and paper.

If you can't or won't, then you already have ACCEPTED the mark of the beast.

A chip is simply a more convenient form of what you already have.






I would give up my life ...this world is dominated by the lie...Best believe I'll give it UP!!! without even blinking!!!

Glory be to Yahushua!!!


Then to whom will you give all your money to? And when will you do this?

The government? The Church? I'm sure they will gladly take it from you.

If you have any money at all right now, then you have accepted the mark of the beast. If you have a credit card or a social security card then you have accepted the mark of the beast.

You would also give up your life?

You are totally under the control of your religion if you would do that.

My life is my most precious possession and I will not willingly ever give it up for any religious notions like that. I believe that would be the greatest "sin" of all.





more b.s. because we use money for purchasing we have already accepted the mark. Lol!

through out time it's been done through centuries OUR FOUR FATHER DID IT YOUR POINT!!!!! ...still if he asked ...wouldn't you walk a way???? B.S.??? I think YOU ARE A BITTER PERSON AND NEED LOVE IN A BIG WAY!!! Again, I say this Point you brought up IS NOT LOVE WHERE IS IT!!!! REALLY !!! where the crusade to LOVE!!! Up lifting or encouraging TO BRING THE GOOD NEWS!!!!.... THE TRUTH SAYS THAT WHAT EVER THE SPIRIT LEADS YOU TO DO >>> BUT THIS???? REALLY Or is it your FLESH TALKING!!!! HEART BREAKING to me! YAH I know what Yahushua says that's it's Like a Double edged sword...HAPPY to die by it BELIEVE IT!!! ARE YOU???? THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LOVE!!!! WHERE IS YOURS what is this???? I PRAY you come to know him in a loving manner ...OH i know harsh words spoke by him can hurt ....I want them toOOooOo to penetrate my being (correction is always needed and it's love from him)...to Be raised LIKE KNAWOKE(Chanok) !!! Disciplined.... trained UP !!!! HIS WORDS ARE LIFE!!! SPEAK LIFE instead of DEATH!!! GRRRRH!!!! Non~sense wow this thread was non~sense ...Men without him are LOST!!! Women without him are DEATH!!! Get the Picture!!!

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Sun 06/16/13 09:13 PM






Receiving the Beast's number, name or mark has to do with giving allegiance to the government this dictator will establish and to the false religion that will be an integral part of that system. The Bible uses the symbols of the forehead and the right hand to represent one's loyalty by thought and work—mental and physical allegiance
One this allegiance has been you will be PROGRAMED to worship the beast only there are two masters you will love one and hate the other!
Read your Bible if you disagree with someone go to the Scriptures ask God to open up
your understanding when you stand before God you will not receive Brownie points for be ignorant
Believe it or not this thing is real what are you going to do when the day comes that you have to choose between feeding your children or taking the mark because without it you will not be able to buy or sale
Hosea 4: 6 (KJV) My people perish from a lack of knowledge.





Without money (federal reserve notes, which basically represent debt) you cannot buy or sell either.

If you are so convinced that you will not accept the mark of the beast, then give up all your money, digital and paper.

If you can't or won't, then you already have ACCEPTED the mark of the beast.

A chip is simply a more convenient form of what you already have.






I would give up my life ...this world is dominated by the lie...Best believe I'll give it UP!!! without even blinking!!!

Glory be to Yahushua!!!


Then to whom will you give all your money to? And when will you do this?

The government? The Church? I'm sure they will gladly take it from you.

If you have any money at all right now, then you have accepted the mark of the beast. If you have a credit card or a social security card then you have accepted the mark of the beast.

You would also give up your life?

You are totally under the control of your religion if you would do that.

My life is my most precious possession and I will not willingly ever give it up for any religious notions like that. I believe that would be the greatest "sin" of all.





more b.s. because we use money for purchasing we have already accepted the mark. Lol!

through out time it's been done through centuries OUR FOUR FATHER DID IT YOUR POINT!!!!! ...still if he asked ...wouldn't you walk a way???? B.S.??? I think YOU ARE A BITTER PERSON AND NEED LOVE IN A BIG WAY!!! Again, I say this Point you brought up IS NOT LOVE WHERE IS IT!!!! REALLY !!! where the crusade to LOVE!!! Up lifting or encouraging TO BRING THE GOOD NEWS!!!!.... THE TRUTH SAYS THAT WHAT EVER THE SPIRIT LEADS YOU TO DO >>> BUT THIS???? REALLY Or is it your FLESH TALKING!!!! HEART BREAKING to me! YAH I know what Yahushua says that's it's Like a Double edged sword...HAPPY to die by it BELIEVE IT!!! ARE YOU???? THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LOVE!!!! WHERE IS YOURS what is this???? I PRAY you come to know him in a loving manner ...OH i know harsh words spoke by him can hurt ....I want them toOOooOo to penetrate my being (correction is always needed and Loved BY HIM to those who love him that is!)...to Be raised LIKE KNAWOKE(Chanok) !!! Disciplined... to be trained UP !!!! HIS WORDS ARE LIFE!!! SPEAK LIFE instead of DEATH!!! GRRRRH!!!! Non~sense wow this thread was non~sense ...Men without him are LOST!!! Women without him are DEATH!!! Get the Picture!!!

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Sun 06/16/13 09:17 PM
Bottom line.... Romans 1:24 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served created things rather than the creator.

Forfeited their own lives. What can a man give to God in exchange for his soul?


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Sun 06/16/13 09:19 PM

Bottom line.... Romans 1:24 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served created things rather than the creator.

Forfeited their own lives. What can a man give to God in exchange for his soul?



Nothing wrong with that your tread nothing but Delusion SPEAK LIFE!!!!!!

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Sun 06/16/13 09:25 PM
Don't buy into the lie. Lol. A pun of sorts. Vehicles are getting larger and less fuel economical yet there are oil shortages?

Just one example.