Some states are going to evaluate teachers according to how their students grade out.

They will have the option to fire teachers whos students fair poorly.

Good idea or no?

What say y'all?

More info..
does it cover students who improve, only?
(In other words, they were, say, 'D' students,
but under that teacher they became 'B' students,
but still did not meet current standards?)

they will have to give them a fair amount of control over the methodology and means



I was hoping you meant they were going make sure that teachers could pass standardized testing

anyway this kinda strategy usually has the effect where teachers will simply teach to the test

Not sure.
Can't post a link.
However, common sense, if they use it, would have them evaluating teachers on improvement as well, Ms soufiehere

Bad idea.
If a kid/kids has bad grades it doesn't necessarily equate to the teacher's teaching methods.
There's better and more effective ways to evaluate teachers.

Everyone knows there are good teachers and bad teachers. It is clear that the teacher's union helps keep the bad ones in class. A bad teacher is a waste of time for everyone and a waste of taxpayer money.

I think any class is a mix of kids with different potential but the way the system is catering to the lowest common denominator, almost any kid can pass almost any class with the right technique and motivation.

By "technique" you mean doing homework.

That's a literal drag.

I am a teacher and I agree
"homework" should literally be a chance for a student to work on independent hobbies at home and develop those talents

so many things we do and apparently believe about learning and education are kinda messed up

but anyway, like your previous post also moonsdragon, and I agreee

I had a second grade teacher who didn't believe in giving homework.
So I got a whole year without homework.

I hate homework.

Majority of parents polled were excited about it.
About 1/3 of the teachers thought it was a good idea.

I would say most definitely, maybe.

Using student test scores to evaluate teacher performance sounds like a good idea, but how do your determine credit and blame?…How much of either can you attribute to a teachers efforts?…Students don't share the same level of ability or interest or commitment, they don't share the same experiences outside the classroom…Parental support is a big contributing factor…I think test scores are useful, but they're just a part of the whole picture and would only work in combination with other evaluation techniques like classroom observations and student and parent surveys…If the teachers are going to be fairly evaluated using test scores, the focus would need to be placed on gains, not year end scores…Also, students should be tested and teachers evaluated throughout the school year to identify and correct problems before they result in failure for the student….Since studies indicate that achievement gains and losses follow teachers, I'm in favor of test scores being used as a PART of the teacher evaluation process…I also think if tenure was eliminated or had a minimum 10 year requirement in every state the change would reflect higher test scores across the board…

True.
I would imagine, parents who want quality teachers would hope this could weed out the ones in there just for the check.

Those parents hopes are lazy ones.
If the parents really wanted to know if their kid's teachers were effective in their teaching methods then they would sit in a class or two or even a full day (as long as they weren't causing a distraction)
and learn from the teachers themselves along with the rest of the kids.