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Topic: Who or What is God?
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Sat 03/26/16 09:36 PM
Edited by LUNG1954 on Sat 03/26/16 09:37 PM




When I went to the ceremony, I couldn't hear anything Allah said, is it because I am not faithful enough or is it because I am not the chosen one?



The hand of the LORD was on me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones. 2 He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, bones that were very dry. 3 He asked me, “Son of man, can these bones live?”
I said, “Sovereign LORD, you alone know.” Ezekiel 37
Does man not consider that We created him from a [mere] sperm-drop - then at once he is a clear adversary? Quran 36;77
And he presents for Us an example and forgets his [own] creation. He says, "Who will give life to bones while they are disintegrated?" Quran 36;78
Say, "He will give them life who produced them the first time; and He is, of all creation, Knowing." Quran 36;79


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Sat 03/26/16 09:47 PM




When I went to the ceremony, I couldn't hear anything Allah said, is it because I am not faithful enough or is it because I am not the chosen one?



You couldn't see or hear electrons running through high voltage wire, but they can kill you before you touch the wire. You couldn't see or hear viruses but they made you ill or may kill you. Dogs hear much stronger than man's ears,

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Sun 04/03/16 05:05 AM





When I went to the ceremony, I couldn't hear anything Allah said, is it because I am not faithful enough or is it because I am not the chosen one?



You couldn't see or hear electrons running through high voltage wire, but they can kill you before you touch the wire. You couldn't see or hear viruses but they made you ill or may kill you. Dogs hear much stronger than man's ears,


Doesn't explain why a "chosen" few are the only ones that can "hear". Unless you are saying that Prophets are Dogs? Why does God speak the language that the Prophet can understand, especially since we created our own languages to help understand each other long before god existed. Our languages are even evolving and yet god is still "with the times" and knows exactly how to say things that they would understand. God can speak every language it would seem and yet there are multiple gods so each god knows which language to speak to its followers and so on. Then when this Prophets "hears" gods orders. The Prophet could say absolutely anything to their followers and they would act on as an order from god (Sounds like power of control) So anyway, every so often the Vatican gets a new pope, they can't commune with god like Prophets, they simply interpret the goings on in the world and give orders that will be in the favor of the church and the pope, I somehow get the feeling these Prophets do the same thing. Some of the worst human beings I know are the ones that go to church religiously on a Sunday and commune with others and "god". These are the people that take from the poor to satisfy themselves. Isn't it odd that all religious groups have a foundation or church or whatever that accumulates their faith or group or whatever money. Surely if they just pray for the money they will receive what they need. Anyway, Atheists do not have any such group or organization that accumulates money to then use to improve their churches, convert more children and go to war with. We simply are not a group, we are all independent beings who have taken a second look at religion and picked at all of its flaws and instead of answering all the flaws with more junk about god to further our beliefs we have simply used a more logical view point and realized that its all a load of crap and that the sooner the world is free from this crap then we can all peacefully descend into what all religions think no god would equal, Chaos.

To finish off with this point: If heaven does exist, it will be full of all the worlds religious nutters and with that in mind, I will Gladly to go Hell for the peace and quiet, away from all the slaughter.

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Sun 04/03/16 06:35 AM




To finish off with this point: If heaven does exist, it will be full of all the worlds religious nutters and with that in mind, I will Gladly to go Hell for the peace and quiet, away from all the slaughter.



So if heaven does exist then everything you have written is wrong,(most of it is incorrect,regardless of whether heaven exists or not).You accept the possibility that heaven might exist yet you will continue to stick to your erroneous beliefs.Sounds less logical than people who believe in God based on faith,at least they are following what they believe in.You on the other hand will not change your belief even though it has turned out to be incorrect.Interesting position to hold.

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Mon 04/04/16 05:11 AM





To finish off with this point: If heaven does exist, it will be full of all the worlds religious nutters and with that in mind, I will Gladly to go Hell for the peace and quiet, away from all the slaughter.



So if heaven does exist then everything you have written is wrong,(most of it is incorrect,regardless of whether heaven exists or not).You accept the possibility that heaven might exist yet you will continue to stick to your erroneous beliefs.Sounds less logical than people who believe in God based on faith,at least they are following what they believe in.You on the other hand will not change your belief even though it has turned out to be incorrect.Interesting position to hold.


Ha, You make me laugh! You are great at jumping the gun. I do not believe Heaven exists, I said IF. It is a huge IF because there is no fundamental proof that god, heaven or hell exist. But IF on the big off chance that I am wrong and heaven does in fact exist then I would choose hell, assuming that too exists. No wonder you believe all the crap in the bible, you are A* at twisting what other people say to your own conclusions. See you in Sovngarde, oh wait, no you won't

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Mon 04/04/16 06:12 AM






To finish off with this point: If heaven does exist, it will be full of all the worlds religious nutters and with that in mind, I will Gladly to go Hell for the peace and quiet, away from all the slaughter.



So if heaven does exist then everything you have written is wrong,(most of it is incorrect,regardless of whether heaven exists or not).You accept the possibility that heaven might exist yet you will continue to stick to your erroneous beliefs.Sounds less logical than people who believe in God based on faith,at least they are following what they believe in.You on the other hand will not change your belief even though it has turned out to be incorrect.Interesting position to hold.


Ha, You make me laugh! You are great at jumping the gun. I do not believe Heaven exists, I said IF. It is a huge IF because there is no fundamental proof that god, heaven or hell exist. But IF on the big off chance that I am wrong and heaven does in fact exist then I would choose hell, assuming that too exists. No wonder you believe all the crap in the bible, you are A* at twisting what other people say to your own conclusions. See you in Sovngarde, oh wait, no you won't


For someone who keeps shouting about his high IQ I find it surprising that you cannot follow a hypothetical situation proposed by you through to its logical conclusion.You have hypothetically accepted that God exists in your proposition.I on the other hand have stated quite clearly that I am not a Christian and I do not accept much of what is in the Bible yet you state that I "believe all the crap in the bible".So who is twisting the facts ?

lu10nt's photo
Mon 04/04/16 08:05 AM







To finish off with this point: If heaven does exist, it will be full of all the worlds religious nutters and with that in mind, I will Gladly to go Hell for the peace and quiet, away from all the slaughter.



So if heaven does exist then everything you have written is wrong,(most of it is incorrect,regardless of whether heaven exists or not).You accept the possibility that heaven might exist yet you will continue to stick to your erroneous beliefs.Sounds less logical than people who believe in God based on faith,at least they are following what they believe in.You on the other hand will not change your belief even though it has turned out to be incorrect.Interesting position to hold.


Ha, You make me laugh! You are great at jumping the gun. I do not believe Heaven exists, I said IF. It is a huge IF because there is no fundamental proof that god, heaven or hell exist. But IF on the big off chance that I am wrong and heaven does in fact exist then I would choose hell, assuming that too exists. No wonder you believe all the crap in the bible, you are A* at twisting what other people say to your own conclusions. See you in Sovngarde, oh wait, no you won't


For someone who keeps shouting about his high IQ I find it surprising that you cannot follow a hypothetical situation proposed by you through to its logical conclusion.You have hypothetically accepted that God exists in your proposition.I on the other hand have stated quite clearly that I am not a Christian and I do not accept much of what is in the Bible yet you state that I "believe all the crap in the bible".So who is twisting the facts ?


Not sure how you think I think god exists? He exists only in the mind. Not exactly sure what you have stated and since you keep twisting what I have said and then what you have said its too confusing to follow. Not sure what you mean by this either: "you cannot follow a hypothetical situation proposed by you through to its logical conclusion". It sounds like your saying that all the stuff told to me by other people somehow gets us to where we are today and also makes perfect sense? Again not sure how to interpret what you say, too many twists.

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Tue 04/05/16 12:13 AM
There is no deity and no god except the One True and Only God.

God is not exception, but He is the Special One behind everything in this world,He sees us and we know we cant see him but we can feel and believe He is with us not physically but with his knowledge..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POGgOkPX1gM


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i4iq5NM4IRA

lu10nt's photo
Wed 04/06/16 08:27 AM

There is no deity and no god except the One True and Only God.

God is not exception, but He is the Special One behind everything in this world,He sees us and we know we cant see him but we can feel and believe He is with us not physically but with his knowledge..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POGgOkPX1gM


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i4iq5NM4IRA


"This one is but flesh and faith and is the more deluded"

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Tue 02/07/17 01:09 PM




If you want to know Him maybe you should ask Him.



him?

Reasoning from the premise of one's own existence is called "anthropic" reasoning.

My journey has been in an inward direction and although not completely scientific, it involves my own personal logic.

I did ask and I got my answer.

When 'I am' and 'God is' become in your mind indistinguishable, then something will happen and you will know without a trace of doubt that God is because you are, you are because God is. The two are one.


Until He speaks to you anyway. But you know, to each their own.



"I AM" speaks to everyone.






Yahweh - "I am who am"

I personally believe that god is energy - pure love and light.

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