In one of the threads someone asked what the difference is between "God" and "Santa."

Here are some suggestions for starters:



Santa is not said to send people to "hell" if they do not worship him

People do not hate and condemn each other over differences in Santa beliefs

Wars are not caused by differences in Santa beliefs

Elaborate Palaces of Worship are not constructed for Santa

Offerings collected for Santa are typically limited to cookies

No sacrifices (animal or human) are made to Santa

Santa believers do not generally consider themselves superior to those who do not believe or worship

True but 1 very important fact I do not like about Santa.

We teach our children if someone does not know any better and trust u it is ok to lie to them for fun.

Our children are taught to lie from Santa and Christmas.

Because 1 day they find out their parents lied to them and if your parents lied to you , u get the 1st thought about lieing just like in the Garden of eden.. Funny how u can move the 1 n letter and it becomes Santa---- Satan

I was going to bring up the Santa Satan thing and say that maybe being do make sacrifices to Santa. lol

All the customs that Yahshua did we now say are old and let old pagan mythology take over. We are told Satan is the g-d of this world.

3 times in the year Yahshua kept the Feasts of Lev23.

the fall feast the Feast of Tabernacles is a coming together to a sight where Yahweh chooses for you to travel and live in tempory dwellings, tents, rv's ect.

we know about the 1 tithe that is in the churches yet their are 2 tithes every year and a 3rd tithe every year for the poor.

The churches are big on the one that goes to them.

But what is the 2nd tithe for?

Its for your expenses to the Feast of Tabernacles when the Fall Harvest has come in. It is an 8 day feast with the 8th called the Last great Day symbolizing the Great White Throne Judgment.

This 10% u r to save u r not to go home with. so what do you do its not your money its Yahweh's

What u do not need you give to your brethren as u see need so than they can also have an excellent feast along with you and feel the love for one another as the scriptures says.

The 3rd tithe 10% every third year every week month when u see someone in need use your 3rd tithe its not yours. You are an ambassador to show people you love with out wanting anything in return you just love.

This is what the churches have hidden the wonders of Yahweh which is all Prophesy is one Blessing you get from it. Just like Pentecost when The Gift of The Holy Spirit was given to all men. That feast means 50 which is still counted from the holy regular Sabbath after Passover. But it is know in the OT as The Fest of FirstFruits. Yahweh's vive life blood to us. all lost in preferring Pagan feasts over Yahweh's Feasts. same as before

I'm wondering what religion you are? I've never heard reference to Yahshua nor it seems like most of the religious figures you mention.

We are known to ourselves as Yahwists. Meaning Yahweh's Wisdom as is said My People Re Destroyed for lack of Knowledge.

Many churches may refer to us as The Holy Name Movement and usually will say we are a cult because we believe in If Yahshua did it then we do it. The main thing we do not do is Sacrafice as Yahshua being Sinless and had no need to Sacrafice yet he did pray.

He kept the Torah perfectly and in Math 6 he says

Matt 5:48
48 Therefore you shall be perfect , just as your Father in heaven is perfect .
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Therefore if Yahshua is our example and because of him keeping this example he suffered a horrible death release us to the same Holy Spirit he had. then we should do it.

Most people have no idea what the master Prayer says and what he said for the rest of the chapter. if you study Isa 58 closely u will see exactly what the masters prayer is telling u what to do.


so we keep the 7th day Sabbath. keep the feast of Lev 23 and basically all the rest of the laws except sacrificing animals as Yahshua gave us an example not to.

Health and food laws ect. many people do not realize Grace was in the old Testament. as this verse shows you

Ps 51:14-17

14 Deliver me from the guilt of bloodshed, O God,
The God of my salvation,
And my tongue shall sing aloud of Your righteousness.
15 O Lord, open my lips,
And my mouth shall show forth Your praise.
16 For You do not desire sacrifice, or else I would give it;
You do not delight in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit,
A broken and a contrite heart —
These, O God, You will not despise.
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He desires Prayer and the asking of forgiveness he never desired animal sacrifice. A Broken heart he will not despise.. That a Promice

and verse 14 Speaks of yahshua The Elohim of Salvation.

Is that not Yahshua in these verses talking?

Yahshua in the Hebrew which this name has been proven as his actual name.

Yah is the family name shua means Salvation. the name means so much. The name tells us to put up the good Fight Yahweh's Salvation is coming = Yahshua ........HalleluYah

I was told about Santa and The Easter Bunny, they were cute fairy tales as a child

I didn't feel terribly 'lied' to when I realized the truth, I was mature enough to recognize them for the lighthearted fairytales they are,,,


also, Easter bunny and Santa are what adults tell to kids, who grow up to be adults telling it to kids, and so on

amongst the KIDS who believe it ,, there is indeed similar condescention between believers and non believers

they

,,tell each other they wont get gifts if they don't believe
...get angry and refuse to play with others who try to say santa doesnt exist
...cant start wars or build palaces but many have shrines to santa in their room via posters, figurines,,etc,,,



also, the original St Nick lived in the fourth century with no documented account of having risen from the dead or actually lived in the north pole or having elves or traveling down chimneys after his death,,,,

My dad from what he said was mad at his parents for lying about Santa. I think that's kind of silly. It's nothing more than a game really.

I do think that my friends dad went to far with his Santa stuff. If you said you didn't believe in Santa then he would slug you and tell some take about how when he was a kid he saw Santa. I don't know how hard the hit was supposed to be. It was something my friend told me about and I don't think I ever experienced it myself. But I would say that is going to far.

jeesh, I would say so,, and maybe he did see Santa, or someone he thought was Santa,, who knows

still no reason to punch a kid

the simple point is you have chosen Pagan Traditions over the Law of Yahweh. The Feasts of Lev. 23 were all kept and recorded he did these things. Its the reason for no Idols why Yahweh can not be seen and have lived we are told. I Am That I Am is YHWH I will be whatever you need me to be.

Eve seen no problem with disobeying and Adam lied and Blamed it on Eve.

Adam and Even were as little children we all of a sudden they realized they were naked. Like small children. Yahweh is as your father. Do you want part of the Scriptures be for his amusement when you believe every word of it. Maybe Salvation is a fun joke to play on us children.

I have never seen anyone's children make fun of someone who believes in Christmas they know better.

we all need to try and learn the mind of Yahweh through study and Prayed and that spirit will enter and open up a whole new world.

Lieing that I know of ever allowed in the Bible was Abram telling the Egyptians Sara was his sister and not his wife.

He was protecting his wife. at that time they were raping wives and family members like sisters they would not bother. he was Protecting her.

No where else do I c lieing being condoned. I do not believe Judas was condoned or was he?

a parable could be called a 'lie' depending upon whether people believe it to be a true story

I understand there are many parables in our bible,,,,

its all in context ,

I dont think children should be made to have santa as an 'idol' or to worship him as some do

but I dont believe the story of santa as a parable of giving and a sweet fairytale of choosing good over naughty, is the same as the dangerous idolatry referred to in the bible,,,

I would guess what it says we will be doing in the 1000 years that Yahshua rules the earth.

He comes back as a Righteous King just like the Jews are looking for also.

The Prophets tell us over and over ( Zech read) that the Law will be Enforced just like it was in the OT. Those who do not try to be perfect will if alive will be punished with no rain if they do not keep the feast of Lev. 23. This is future Prophecy.

Through doing Christmas time your children know all about it. Tell me how much they know about what they will be doing in the Kingdom?

Going to Jerusalem to worship something they never heard of let alone practice. Tradition is very hard to break

they know what they are taught in the bible, they go to church and sunday school, they were told about Santa and simultaneously taught about their bible too

That's good

That is similar to religion that adults (and "priests", "prophets" and "authorities") tell kids (and adults) who sometimes grow up to repeat the tales ad infinitum.



Well, at least the kids can't build palaces (only posters and figurines, etc) and can't start wars. Bravo.



There is also NO DOCUMENTED evidence of any of the proposed "gods" (from any century) rising from the dead or performing any of the supernatural feats in tales. There are TALES and testimonials about such things happening, but nothing that can be verified as truthful and accurate. That some of the tales were written about decades, generations or centuries after they supposedly occurred is NOT documentation that they are anything more than folk tales, legends, fables, fiction or other forms of human imagination.

actually Nicholas was a Bishop in the Eastern Church known for his generosity,and his day is on the 6th of December,not on the 25th of December! It is known as Saint Nicholas-day in Europe!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas_Day

I want to argue one thing is a kind of silly way. You said that kids can't have wars or build palaces. They can build tree forts of blanket forts and haven't you seen or read Lord of the flies? That was about kids that had wars and even killed each other.

That was fiction though. I would seriously argue that war on a smaller scale is constantly fought between various kids and bullies though. Sometimes it ends up on the news because one bring a gun or other weapon into the fight after having to much.

I would have to search again but I posted a link and the article about a Roman Historian who spoke of Yahshua. He was taken by him. Believe or not he claimed he had blond hair.. (weird for a Jew) He said he shown stood out from everyone when he preached and although he did not see him rise he wrote about all the talk about him rising
Josephus wrote about him but he did not believe in him so his account is believed to be slanted. Many things you probally do not know about that was written back then. I am sure its hidden in Rome.

1 thing we see the Persian Magi going to him. Cyrus and the Persians had great respect for the Jews.

2 . The fall of the Temple in 70 ad. where did all the believers go.. The Jews did mass suicide but the believers are known to have left but where.

Peter speaks of an Assembly in the Persian Empire. The Persia Empire had a border that neither could cross. I believe it was the Euphrates or maybe the Tigris which ever one is to the east of Babylon. so if believers made it into that river the Persians would protect them and Rome did not want a fight with the Persians.

Here Peter talks about his son possibly. or greetings were from his son also to the assembly in Babylon.

1 Peter 5:12 - 2 Peter 1:1

By Silvanus, our faithful brother as I consider him, I have written to you briefly, exhorting and testifying that this is the true grace of God in which you stand.

13 She who is in Babylon , elect together with you, greets you; and so does Mark my son. 14 Greet one another with a kiss of love.

Peace to you all who are in Christ Jesus. Amen.


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Even in the scriptures if u study during the slaughter and destruction of the temple where do you think u would flee to?

Thiers a lot out their the ones in the know do not want it told because it would turn Christianity on its head. u would not believe 1 on 1 every preacher I have ever talked to has admitted what they are teaching is false. Reasoning for not telling the truth? Money.. afraid of their jobs because they have contracts with churches and they have to keep the board happy. That's why I keep saying tell your church to get rid of their tax status and boards and tell your preacher u will support him all u want is the truth. they are afraid they will be fired they have taught so many lies. remember Math 5 says they will be BEATEN with Many STRIPES for this

Fiction, fantasy, fables, folklore, legends, etc are of little or no interest to me.

Many maintain that they learn from all the above -- and perhaps they do learn things of value??? However, I prefer to learn from the actual world I inhabit rather than from fanciful stories made up by others.

There are still the news stories that do pretty much prove that kids do have wars with each other from being bullied and all that kind of stuff and that it does escalate to murder even.