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I think you'll find the ruling wasn't pushed by politicians in a fit of aristocracy, but by other dentists claiming loss of business by undercut. It's actually illegal in the Commonwealth, there is a price regulation on businesses to prevent monopolies, eg. if you open a gas station the price of fuel is set by a state board and can only vary by a few cents, so that a super-rich person can't enter a business at a short term loss by undercutting everybody else to make the business successful, then sell it off at a net profit with an established name in an attempt to use fraud and lack of ethics to serve greed. It hurts other proprietors and the business industry in general. Being morally criminal, basically makes it actually criminal. Now this dentist was doing something he felt was of social conscience and community welfare. I say more power to him. But I do think it was probably other dentists who pushed for this move to ban him from doing so, since they're the only ones really threatened by it. And as our Commonwealth legislation proves, a bunch of angry business people can make legislation happen. Sir, Australia and New Zealand have much more serious problems that that. Both countries are in the death throes of democracy, freedom having died long ago. But to try to relate that to these united States, not even close. |
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my brother has been a doctor for years,, it takes a special intelligence to read and learn how to deal with others,,, I think its true in all walks of life, and all professions,,, So what, my brother-in-law has been Chief of his specialty as well as an owner of a medical corporation but it still took him almost 30 years to discover drug companies are pure evil. Doesn't mean he has stopped subscribing them, just pays a little closer attention. So just what special intelligence does it take? I've also had many doctors as clients, what I learned from the whole experience is that unless you were a big specialist, practicing medicine was a losing proposition, many their finances were so tight they never got the best rates. But if you wanted to make huge money, be a plastic surgeon, vanity knows no bounds. ITs called EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE, I believe many with High IQ have very low EQ, and live frustrated lives as a result, because they can only deal with whats in books and not with actual people and circumstances,,, No, it has to do with ignorance, those with intellect ignoring intelligence. Sort of like the masses but ignorant on a different plane. Can't wait to see the spin on this. no spin,, just appreciation for proving my point. ![]() |
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We're actually having a current problem in Australia with price undercutting ruining earnest business people. Major supermarkets have used a loophole in the state fuel price regulation by buying up service station franchises and offering fuel discounts at those outlets for shoppers who spend more at their stores. All the independent service stations can't compete with the prices of the discounted stations the supermarkets own, since the supermarkets are floating it with their large corporation turnovers. It's causing a monopoly on the fuel market, you basically need to own a large corporation to own fuel stations now, so you can discount fuel for spending at your other business, or you can't compete with consumer fuel prices. But without small business having a chance at equitable operation, we all become slaves to a government of greedy rich people, and that's much worse than being ordered around by elected liars that at least don't really care one way or another if you get rich being honest. Rich business people, they don't the honest or anyone else getting rich, they want it all for themselves, all the power and all the money and slaves to feed them grapes. If this is just your view, then I would say that it is a small problem. However, I don't believe it is just your view but a much wider spread issue across the Australian population. Therefore this is nothing more than social justice reminiscent of these times, the fallacy of democracy. The mistaken assumption that the majority can rule through some representation. This is a phenomena that has existed throughout the history of mankind and has always, yes always, ended in the same manner. |
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my brother has been a doctor for years,, it takes a special intelligence to read and learn how to deal with others,,, I think its true in all walks of life, and all professions,,, So what, my brother-in-law has been Chief of his specialty as well as an owner of a medical corporation but it still took him almost 30 years to discover drug companies are pure evil. Doesn't mean he has stopped subscribing them, just pays a little closer attention. So just what special intelligence does it take? I've also had many doctors as clients, what I learned from the whole experience is that unless you were a big specialist, practicing medicine was a losing proposition, many their finances were so tight they never got the best rates. But if you wanted to make huge money, be a plastic surgeon, vanity knows no bounds. ITs called EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE, I believe many with High IQ have very low EQ, and live frustrated lives as a result, because they can only deal with whats in books and not with actual people and circumstances,,, So now you are a renown psychological thinker. Can you point me to any peer reviewed articles on how mood applies to intelligence? What about the original pair where the one that has taken the lead position has backed off and distanced himself from those using the theory to sell books? But I do see the other has wormed his way onto the "National Science Foundation", nice little cushy government appointment. But meanwhile, back in reality, do you have any understanding at all on intelligence, not entitlements, but intelligence? |
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ITs called EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE, I believe many with High IQ have very low EQ, and live frustrated lives as a result, because they can only deal with whats in books and not with actual people and circumstances,,, Both "emotional intelligence" as an intrinsic term, and the misrepresentation of IQ as "booksmart" or in any way academically related are products of pop science and pseudoscience. ... And the answer to that is clearly somebody has a low IQ there... I would say you have summed it up very nicely. |
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No, it has to do with ignorance, those with intellect ignoring intelligence. Sort of like the masses but ignorant on a different plane. Can't wait to see the spin on this. no spin,, just appreciation for proving my point. ![]() That would be spin. |
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you go figure!
Statism Is Slavery Joke #1 Three Soviet prisoners are sitting around comparing stories. Eventually the subject turns to what crimes they committed to end up in their predicament. The first prisoner says, "I came to work late and they accused me of cheating the State out of my labor services. The second prisoner says, "I came to work early and they accused me of brown nosing." The third prisoner says, "I came to work exactly on time every day without fail, and they accused me of owning a Western wristwatch." Joke #2 Three American prisoners are sitting around comparing stories. Eventually the subject turns to what crimes they committed to end up in their predicament. The first prisoner says, "I charged higher prices than everyone else and they accused me of profiteering and price gauging." The second prisoner says, "I charged lower prices than everyone else and they accused me of predatory price cutting and cut-throat competition." The third prisoner says, "I charged the same prices as everyone else and they accused me of collusion and cartelization." -DR . |
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I quit when medicine was placed under State control some years ago,said Dr. Hendricks. Do you know what it takes to perform a brain operation? Do you know the kind of skill it demands, and the years of passionate, merciless, excruciating devotion that go to acquire that skill? That was what I could not place at the disposal of men whose sole qualification to rule me was their capacity to spout the fraudulent generalities that got them elected to the privilege of enforcing their wishes at the point of a gun. I would not let them dictate the purpose for which my years of study had been spent, or the conditions of my work, or my choice of patients, or the amount of my reward. | Atlas Shrugged ringing a bell? yes, when conditions become ridiculous, we lose our best people...you're right that's nothing new. Only a fool or a bad politician has not yet learned that lesson..and government is not the only place where I have seen this principle operate. I for one find Rand interesting but do not wholly subscribe to her theory. First off, over charging by doctors is why insurance showed up in the first place. Still this dentist in Arkansas should be able to continue his activities. that's ridiculous. |
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ITs called EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE, I believe many with High IQ have very low EQ, and live frustrated lives as a result, because they can only deal with whats in books and not with actual people and circumstances,,, Both "emotional intelligence" as an intrinsic term, and the misrepresentation of IQ as "booksmart" or in any way academically related are products of pop science and pseudoscience. ... And the answer to that is clearly somebody has a low IQ there... I would say you have summed it up very nicely. you are correct in your assessment of IQ as booksmart being a misinterpretation, however, emotional intelligence is a valid concept. It is much more difficult to measure IMO as most things are in human or social science. but we all know who those people are. the ones who put a stop to activities that can bother others because they sense or see that others are not comfortable, as just one example. basically they are the ones who deal well with people. we just call it something else now..lol |
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I quit when medicine was placed under State control some years ago,said Dr. Hendricks. Do you know what it takes to perform a brain operation? Do you know the kind of skill it demands, and the years of passionate, merciless, excruciating devotion that go to acquire that skill? That was what I could not place at the disposal of men whose sole qualification to rule me was their capacity to spout the fraudulent generalities that got them elected to the privilege of enforcing their wishes at the point of a gun. I would not let them dictate the purpose for which my years of study had been spent, or the conditions of my work, or my choice of patients, or the amount of my reward. | Atlas Shrugged ringing a bell? yes, when conditions become ridiculous, we lose our best people...you're right that's nothing new. Only a fool or a bad politician has not yet learned that lesson..and government is not the only place where I have seen this principle operate. I for one find Rand interesting but do not wholly subscribe to her theory. First off, over charging by doctors is why insurance showed up in the first place. Still this dentist in Arkansas should be able to continue his activities. that's ridiculous. You can't overcharge in a Free Market-Economy! People go elsewhere! Government-interference always precedes problems in the Market! http://bastiat.mises.org/2014/04/imagine-if-we-had-free-prices/ But no worry,Government will fix it to the Detriment of most Citizens! ![]() |
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I quit when medicine was placed under State control some years ago,said Dr. Hendricks. Do you know what it takes to perform a brain operation? Do you know the kind of skill it demands, and the years of passionate, merciless, excruciating devotion that go to acquire that skill? That was what I could not place at the disposal of men whose sole qualification to rule me was their capacity to spout the fraudulent generalities that got them elected to the privilege of enforcing their wishes at the point of a gun. I would not let them dictate the purpose for which my years of study had been spent, or the conditions of my work, or my choice of patients, or the amount of my reward. | Atlas Shrugged ringing a bell? yes, when conditions become ridiculous, we lose our best people...you're right that's nothing new. Only a fool or a bad politician has not yet learned that lesson..and government is not the only place where I have seen this principle operate. I for one find Rand interesting but do not wholly subscribe to her theory. First off, over charging by doctors is why insurance showed up in the first place. Still this dentist in Arkansas should be able to continue his activities. that's ridiculous. You can't overcharge in a Free Market-Economy! People go elsewhere! Government-interference always precedes problems in the Market! I am sorry but I do not agree. Government intervention is required where there is abuse...abuse financially, abuse of the environment, abuse of people. A free market economy cannot prevent abuse. No, people do not just go elsewhere. As with Rand, your statement oversimplifies almost to the point of being sophmoric. In a free market such as Rans would have there is no social responsibility. In this country (US) we chose social responsibility a long time ago as a value. It is a necessary value in order to truly have a society. In a free market (no such thing BTW), people don;t go elsewhere, what happens is that only the wealthy are served, the less wealthy simply go without. Insurance came about for exactly this reason. I agree it has gone way to far, but the medical profession had helped to create the problem years ago by overcharging. There would have been no "market" for insurance if the average citizen could have afforded care. That is why I like what this dentist is doing. BUT for me, cleaning are free....and IMO even $99 is too much. There simply is not that much to it. |
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I quit when medicine was placed under State control some years ago,said Dr. Hendricks. Do you know what it takes to perform a brain operation? Do you know the kind of skill it demands, and the years of passionate, merciless, excruciating devotion that go to acquire that skill? That was what I could not place at the disposal of men whose sole qualification to rule me was their capacity to spout the fraudulent generalities that got them elected to the privilege of enforcing their wishes at the point of a gun. I would not let them dictate the purpose for which my years of study had been spent, or the conditions of my work, or my choice of patients, or the amount of my reward. | Atlas Shrugged ringing a bell? yes, when conditions become ridiculous, we lose our best people...you're right that's nothing new. Only a fool or a bad politician has not yet learned that lesson..and government is not the only place where I have seen this principle operate. I for one find Rand interesting but do not wholly subscribe to her theory. First off, over charging by doctors is why insurance showed up in the first place. Still this dentist in Arkansas should be able to continue his activities. that's ridiculous. You can't overcharge in a Free Market-Economy! People go elsewhere! Government-interference always precedes problems in the Market! I am sorry but I do not agree. Government intervention is required where there is abuse...abuse financially, abuse of the environment, abuse of people. A free market economy cannot prevent abuse. No, people do not just go elsewhere. As with Rand, your statement oversimplifies almost to the point of being sophmoric. In a free market such as Rans would have there is no social responsibility. In this country (US) we chose social responsibility a long time ago as a value. It is a necessary value in order to truly have a society. In a free market (no such thing BTW), people don;t go elsewhere, what happens is that only the wealthy are served, the less wealthy simply go without. Insurance came about for exactly this reason. I agree it has gone way to far, but the medical profession had helped to create the problem years ago by overcharging. There would have been no "market" for insurance if the average citizen could have afforded care. That is why I like what this dentist is doing. BUT for me, cleaning are free....and IMO even $99 is too much. There simply is not that much to it. You expect Govt to "intervene when there is abuse"? ![]() Govt intervention IS THE ABUSE! |
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msharmony
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ITs called EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE, I believe many with High IQ have very low EQ, and live frustrated lives as a result, because they can only deal with whats in books and not with actual people and circumstances,,, Both "emotional intelligence" as an intrinsic term, and the misrepresentation of IQ as "booksmart" or in any way academically related are products of pop science and pseudoscience. ... And the answer to that is clearly somebody has a low IQ there... I would say you have summed it up very nicely. you are correct in your assessment of IQ as booksmart being a misinterpretation, however, emotional intelligence is a valid concept. It is much more difficult to measure IMO as most things are in human or social science. but we all know who those people are. the ones who put a stop to activities that can bother others because they sense or see that others are not comfortable, as just one example. basically they are the ones who deal well with people. we just call it something else now..lol I agree with the ASSESSMENT about IQ, although that is not what is being discussed here there are many educated fools, and IQ generally is as much a measure of cultural assmiliation as it is to book smarts, as most books are written towards the culture of those who have written them yet there are many abstract identifiers we use that have no exact measure, but it is understood still what is meant by the terms 'freedom' , is a term which cant be MEASURED,, but yet we do talk in politics about how much of it we allegedly have or don't have EQ and IQ are easily recognized terms, and I still believe that some of those who test high on IQ tests, which most in society would equate to being what we call 'smart',(another immeasurable yet common term) have no idea how to gauge and use emotional behavior in balance with their choices and decisions (what is commonly referred to as EQ) they are like walking robot, no real gauge of anything but the HARDNESS of words in books,,, |
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